Ghadesar (J)t ki Galti nahi Gunah aur Selfishness - Page 10

Malika..

Anji, nice post!! Gunah & selfishness so true. Had it been a galti... I would have been also in the forgive & forget mode. But he has time and again committed crime.

Originally posted by: 5cents

Anji, nice post!! Gunah & selfishness so true. Had it been a galti... I would have been also in the forgive & forget mode. But he has time and again committed crime.

He went to the oasis G in the distance but it turned out to be a mirage. So he decided to return to tried, tested & secure oasis A 😉 ...The tired, longing eyes, straining to see in the windblown sands and refracted desert light, longed to see an known oasis when he returned to Jaitsar . But that also turned out to be only a mirage in the present. The disappointment is too devastating for him now so he is just running away from it. At this point of time... he is just paying for his bad karma...

But I'm hopeful he'll to return to his roots sooner than we think and then his forgiveness will start. I always say...forgiveness is a journey not a destination. Baby Dhukiya will surely tame him just wait & watch. Till then we'll have to endure some emotional atachaar. The more emotional a situation, the more we become wrapped up in it.

Creatives know how to create drama. If it weren't for all the varying emotions b/w J & A esp Shiv. BV would be a damn bland!😉

Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

Kikjo - So, he returning with Shiv cuz DS was unwell... He could have met DS and left saying am now well, but need to go do prayaschit elsewhere that I cannot do here. But, NO - He stayed till he saw AnSh ki wedding. So, Suchi is right - he could not handle that or the guilt that Anandi would be leaving the Singhs...And suddenly conveniently remembered "prayaschit" is incomplete🤣

Even if I give him BOD (benefit of doubt) that he didn't run off cuz he could not stomach AnSh ka shaadi...though fact is that he left right after not b4. Anyhow, if i give BOD, I still don't see Y can J not work in Jaitsar. If he's not running away? Y can't Jaitsar be his Karam Bhoomi? He got out of jail only on that understanding. He will work for well being of Jaitsar NOW. Not next year or someday. And if he stays in Jaitsar, he does not have to take Singh's ka money and AnSh is not offering him any. So, that's just excuse. He didn't do it for the right reasons, but he did found the Farmers' Sanstha on his own. Along the same lines there is no bar or issue with his doing good for the people of Jaitsar and doing prayaschit just there.

Yes. He's free to explore the world and get educated. Was that not the rationale for his going to Mumbai in the first place. So, why did he return without doing his Masters? 😆 Oh yeah - he wanted maafi ki toffee! And where has he gone? To get his Masters? I very much doubt that - but, lets see. And if that's the case then why did he not say so? And if its not the case, then what is it that he can do elsewhere that he cannot do in Jaitsar? Aisa kya hai Jaitsar ki bahar jo usse andar nahi hai?

Cuz he was making his own identity just fine in Jaitsar from the Santha and helping save people's lives during the epidemic.

Well Anjana I am completely sitting like blank at your post ..all is your post in just why he did this before , he could do in this way why he did that he could do that?if you will think everything in this on basis of just why then there is no answer of your why ? all be left is just why? In life there are thousand ways to achieve a goal until the way is not malicious and damaging any life you can chose whatever way .why he did this before why now why did this before why now I already said in life many times we see many things clearly later not before Everything is destined to be done at one particular time no matter how much try you cannot change that So maybe luck has some more plans for Jagaya It wasn't the right time for him to come and live with his family perhaps he needs to do more if he has realized his mistakes in true sense luck won't be cruel to him but will show the right path but at the end of the day we know Jagaya is gonna return to Jaitser and serve his family and people'and with this intention he went to come back after making him worth of it so what is the issue if he becomes super hero inside Jaitser or outside ?you and me haven't dived into minds of cvs that we know the future track .you cannot expect him to be a super hero in one day he has been a weak character and spineless one it will take him much time to stand up. He has taken a great step something which which requires GUTS to realize his mistakes in true sense even acknowledges them as sins and even knows just forgiveness won't wash away everything he needs to do something ..for you it might be something small and funny but for me his this realization is a great step which many people don't do so ...because thus requires GUTS to even say i did wrong ...this marks cvs are serious for his redemption something I was saying here for a long time they will redeem him because they always left space 'now all I will say is wait and see before jumping on conclusion o this was only way for redemption if it didn't happen life finished or without seeing and knowing anything completely just declared it as a failure ..wait , see , know story fully then step on the trigger it was right or wrong . if cvs won't make him do something out of his life on just his own merits ,for what they have made him leave .then I will give Gaalis along with you to them and their creation J but before seeing anything I will call its too early to pass a judgement or conclude anything out of it just on the basis of one letter ..he wrote letter start criticizim and is it confirmed he is leaving ? because I am confused if he too left Jaitser then how singhs will come ?.These actors are going on leave ?Jagaya will come even then but singhs can only come with him ..anyways lets wait and see and then pass judgement ..haste often makes waste ..a very famous proverb '.Singhs are not having any double loss he has left them with a hope I will return as someone you will proudly hug me and call me your son ..Their this hope is enough to make them stand strong and they will pass the time in a wink of eye in the hope of return of their son as someone they wanted to meet ..so wait and see ..now you will say what he will do ? that I don't know and would love to see that ..if they didn't do that I assure you next such post won't be opened by you but by me first 'but till then I won't in haste call it a failure beforehand .

Jaggu ne galati Nahi pap kie he. CVs Ganga me dubki lagane bhej diya kya?😆

Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

Mahi - am not even understanding what you are saying😕 Singhs are guilty of crime (gunah) of bal vivah. We are in agreement there. But, J's failure to maintain rishta is his gunah. He is the one that engaged in polygamy as an adult. That's his adult fault and failure that led to loss of Anandi as his wife and Singh's ka DIL.

Ok I'll make my point more clear what I meant singhs Gunah lead to their failure of losing Anandi as their daughter in law and Jagaya ka gunah was just one part of it .The Gunah started from singhs which lead the disaster in Anandi's life , disaster in their lives .This show's main theme is dhust Bal vivah or dhust Balak var ?😆few days back cvs were calling Bal vivah as dhust which ruin lives of innocent girls and all the Bal vivah drum they beat a huge crime done by whom Jagaya? NO..but by our dear singhs and Anandi's parents despite being warned by an educated woman to whom they turned deaf ears now they suffered because of their karma .What Gunah they did it lead to disaster how? Jagaya didn't marry Anandi as adult singhs did their child marriage forced them to stay under one roof then fed their brains they are made for each other janam janam ka rishta ..when you do marriage of your sons or daughters you think in many directions not blindly do Bal vivah of two children and then assume this rishta is janam janam ka and they will fill the oaths and we had a great jodi ..had singhs not done that waited for right time right age for marrying their son , think before doing his marriage find a partner that matches his personality with his choice added too not done child marriage they must have found their ideal Dauhter In Law with whom they would have happily stayed forever , Anandi wouldn't have suffered , she might be an educated young lady married with her right life partner without any suffering neither they would have suffered like this . in Jagaya Anandi's relation they did many blunders their most important one they sent their son to become land lord in city but kept Annadi uneducated to serve adrak wali chai to them failing to understand the needs of newly consumated couple ?was this not blunder not from them which is sitting at roots of the destruction of J A's relation.? DS so strictness whenever these too took one step let Jagaya support Anandi anywhere Anandi is through out bashed by her you are snatching my grandson no this, no that .? you too were playing doing this there how dare you ?.you cannot go out you cannot stay in one room? .had they not done this all that happened wouldn't have happened and they didn't have to suffer .Anandi ka loss now.so at root of this loss they themselves are sitting so how blame goes to Jagaya only because of him they lost Anandi today ?and their dard ? Jagaya ka Gunah in my opinion is not this he didn't live with live with his balika vadhu till eternity fill the oathes with her that he took when he didn't even know what is marriage . The thing is if he didn't want to live with her he should have convinced all to end this relation fill his responsibilities whatever falls in his lap after divorcing Anandi towards her till she is married with her true life partner but what Gunah he did was lying , cheating , abusing her , abandoning her like a trash.. didn't think about her before marrying with Gauri , just handged Anandi in between and came home married with another woman for that he suffered and he deserved every bit of it but nibhofying his oaths to live till eternity with his balika vadhu this is not his Gunah ..why he is forced to live with her that even Anandi said that 'her problem had never been this why he didn't live with her but merely only this what mistake she did that he left her like that ? that was his Gunah

And singhs are realizing it very well that at root of this mess up they are sitting why they did that child marriage . DS clearly said to A wish I hadn't done that child marriage today this wouldn't have happened with you so main problem is child marriage ..a relation made at an early stage without realizing they are binding two extremely different souls with each other who will never be the right life partners for each other who stopped them they were deaf towards her and today they faced it but they corrected their mistake now will get reward too if couldn't get Anandi as DIL got her as daughter and may be they will get their good DIL too a right match for Jagaya'can be new one or redeemed Gauri 🤣time will tell ..but their suffering holds their karma first

Yes. Guilt for failing in rishta with Anandi will remain for life - J can't really run from it or make up for it. But, right now the feelings after Anandi's bidaai will be most raw for everyone. After sometime it will be norm. Its like when you get a blister on a foot...it hurts at first then you get used. But, fact is that Singhs needed him NOW and he promised to help Jaitsarians NOW. But, his own needs are more important for Jagiya.

There was , is and never will be one time when Singhs need for Jagaya became less or will become less but right now you say what he can do I mean just see they lost Anandi and Jagaya will heal their wounds ? can he do that .?.they need their son not someone who is there to heal them they lost Anandi ..this Jagaya cannot heal but they themselves can ..like Jagaya needs to stand up to support so in much similar even singhs need to stand up put Anandi 's loss aside and heal them up to heal their son otherwise if they will bring Anandi ka loss dard in front of Jagaya he will die with guilt and singhs are mature enough not to do so in front of him and I think Jagaya acknowledges it very well what's on their faces and whats in their heart '.Jagaya cannot do anything in this and what i have seen in serial singhs are right now more worried for Jagaya rather than suffering Anandi ka loss because they know they have made her life so they have satisfaction she is in safe hands DS was falling here and there as for Jagaya not for Anandi ka loss .When Jagaya is weak not in this condition to support them so instead of torturing them with his dukhi self he left with a hope to them he will only return after making something out of him whats the issue in it ? and singhs are mature enough to understand this .What is Jagaya ka selfish needs here? who doesn't want to have a shoulder to cry on, a support, everything well set he is leaving all behind choosing a more complex way ..through loneliness make something out of him and then return whats so easy way in it ? him becoming super hero whether he becomes in jaitser or outside it whats the issue when his intention is not wrong or malicious to destroy someone just want to do something in life and then step in house making himself worth of it what it will cost to singhs they should be happy at this what can be more happy feeling for parents that their son is set to make something out of his own life on his own don't need their fingers to hold him on and show him the right path ?and arey yaar before helping Jaitser first don't need to help him ..pehele khud ko theek kar lai phir un ko bhi kar lay ga 😆he said i will return ...Now now now is there everything fixed for now ?...i took oath i will serve my people first let me make myself worth of that then i can serve them .😆..now why he didn't do this before why now why this why that if started all things with why then whole world will just be why?

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Anjy... Sorry for commenting late.

Loved your post. Agree fully.

@Ppl who are saying that RUNNING AWAY is a part of his so called penace : About which penance you gyyz are talking about ? Till now he has suffered nothing. Just witnessing one hour live AnSh marriage is enough ? You comparing his 4-5 hours of crying to Anandi's 5 YEARS of sufferings ? His punishment is over ?? ( I thank God that this forum ppl are not in Indian Govt or they'd have band bajaoed the country in no time ! )

You saying that J needed to do that to stand up on his feet. Coudnt he do that while living in Jaitsar ? Oh i forgot...he always runs away from doing hard work. And what about his promise to A ? That he'll take care of his parents ? Promises ?? What are those ? Oh maybe he'll work hard in Mumbai, find teesra pyaar and live happily ever after. If Singhs are lucky then maybe after some years they are gonna see their laadesar with their new bahu.

Where is penance in all this ? You cant tag his ''crying + blabbering + missing'' as ''prayashchit''. Its nothing!


And runnih away is nothing but escaping from his responsibilities. He would have talked to Singhs, convinved them that he has changed now and he will prove this! He will make them proud again. But all he did was running away. Aww poor baby cant face his parents. Why ? He has changed now. Then whats the problem ? You can never get rid of your problems if you escape from them. You need to face them. Boldly. So what if you did a mistake ?! You wont give up. Instead you'll show the world that you have changed. If not for anyone then for yourself. So that when you look into the mirror you are not guilt stricken. But you feel proud of yourself.

Running away can NEVER be a solution.

If that is the solution then why didnt A ran away ? Instead she faced the situation, cried but studied hard and proved herself. ( And the ppl saying A is not realstic. Guyz A is the representative of 60% women of India. Just yours and our mother is independent, bold and rebel that doesnt nean all the women are like them only. Just look at your maid, who's beaten up everyday by his pati parmeshwar, but still lives with him, follow all sorts of fast, pray for him, again gets beaten. You'll mock her for being mahaan ??! )

What J did only showcases the point that he will remain a selfish guy who has no respect for any one/ who disregards every promise.

He let down Singhs again.

He didnt went away coz then it might have been an awkward situation while A bidaai. If that might have been the case he'd have been gone temporarily not permanently.

What a man! Cant tolerate some amount of pain. He made his SR in A's room and now this MCP leaves home coz he is in pain watching his ex's wedding. Comeon! Be a man and prove yourself you thickhead! Without running from the circumstances. Face them!!

Limit of selfishness !

P.S. Ok cvs did a bad job in portraying J's character but i think most of the men are like him only. So it was natural and expected from J.

well said Piyaa...

did he write in his letter where he is going ?

Originally posted by: Suchi-Virmanian

well said Piyaa...

many are thinking J is being sooo selfless...

Please He could have told the singhs and then gotten lost ...but no... he could not face his parents...

that it is because of HIM that a gem like Anandi is lost to them!

like bhairav said... thumhari galatiyon ki saza humain bhi bhughathna padega

Suchi. J wont ever understand the meaning if being selfless. Not in his wipdest dreams.

And now i feel bad for Singhs. Anandi gone and the son, with whom they were excited to live rest of their life, ditched them too.

Moreover i forgot to mention. J is also breaking his promise to Shiv and the mayor/ governer that he will work for Jaitsar development and prove himself. Such a bina hawa ka baloon he is!