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Posted: 13 years ago
^Aishwarya was offered Veer-Zaara but SRK was uncomfortable working with her at the time because of all that had happened on Chalte Chalte sets so the role went to Preity. I remember hearing about how Preity called up Aish and asked if it was okay that she did VZ.
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Posted: 13 years ago
^ well preity was terrible in VZ, aish would have been worse. Rani was the only saving grace of the film. SRK was equally artificial like PZ! it was rani's show all the way!!
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: -ksh-

Yeah DMD was such a feather in JrB's cap that for his next film his best friend Rohan Sippy dropped him and chose newbie Ayushman Khurana. 😆Jr B has been given innumerable chances by the industry to redeem himself. He returns the favor by flops and more flops. What an embarrassment to the Bachchan name! What an embarrassment to the great Aishwarya Rai. Thankfully he has realized how pathetic he is and decided to piggy bank on bigger stars like Ajay, Katrina, Aamir.
And who told you Aishwarya was ever considered for Veer Zaara? I mean the heroine had to wear CLOTHES in it.

Dum Maaro Dum was declared an above average grosser at the box office. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dum_Maaro_Dum_(film)
So if Rohit Sippy casted some other actor other than Abhishek its a flop?? lolz which contract did he sign saying he will only work with Abhishe,k??? 😕😕
Veer Zaara was WRITTEN for Aishwarya. Simi Garewal herself said it to Aish in that Rendezvous show. But thanks to Salman-SRK-Yashraj she lost the film
And I donno if ur trying to be insolent by saying the heroine had to wear clothes. lol. Dhoom 2 was one of the only films where she had worn modern type of clothing
Edited by ponymo - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
Aishwarya would have made the perfect Zaara. Preity ruined it 😡
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: guess_wh0


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Where do I even start?

First, its not a testament to anything except her great contacts in the industry. Kareena only shot to fame once Preity and Rani slowed down.
Its called PR. The same way, Sonam won't be going anywhere for a long long time despite her flops. Being a star kid is not enough. You have to suck up to the right people and more importantly keep blowing your own trumpet, which Kareena has been great at from the start. Sonam doesn't have the talent or the the hits but she has PR and a big mouth, just like Kareena.

KWK is a weak example. Its a bunch of people from the KJO/YRF camp talking about each other. Holds no weight.

Other than an Aamir and Salman movie what big hit does Kareena have since 2002?

Does she have any noteworthy performances?

Has she ever carried a film by herself? JWM was a weak opener that got through because of WOM.

Kapoor tag has kept her in the game, as much as you want to deny it, or no one would take her tantrums, attitude problems, fights with co-actress' and just plain rude behavior with one and all. She doesn't have BO success until now, she doesn't have awards, she has a pile of flops, she doesn't have landmark performances. What exactly does she have other than the best PR, link ups, controversies and a big mouth?

She'll be the first actress to be forgotten from the era. Even PC has massive hits but she has them balanced with noteworthy performances.



oh nice...mockery, the greatest argument in the world...

first of all, all the PR in the world cant get u to survive 12 years in the industry if u were the "talentless" hack u are making kareena out to be...having contacts in the industry and sucking up can get u roles, but they cant get u appreciation or critical acclaim, which kareena recieved even in those flop films like Dev, Chameli and Omkara...like someone said, the likes of vishal bharadwaj dunt sign someone on coz of their so called "contacts"...the likes of shabana azmi dunt praise an actress because of their "contacts" either...

shes a bad actress in ur opinion and thts fine...but there are people (in the industry and the audience) who consider her a good actress *shock horror*...

and KWK believe it or not has guests who are the creme of the hindi film industry...call them KJO,YRF suckups whtever...they are the people who matter the most in the industry and they gave out their opinions loud and clear...plus i highly doubt people like shabana, vidya, sonakshi, rajkumar hirani, imtiaz ali,zoya akhtar etc belong to the chopra/johar camp...but ofcourse, dismissing them as "weightless" is totally logical

JWM was a weak opener??...well BOI apparently disagrees:
It managed an above average opening despite competition from OSO and saawariya's publicity overdrive/clash hype..and despite the fact tht kareena had "only flops" b4 tht...go figure...
plus, agent vinod which had saif who is a lesser star than kareena has an excellent
opening
...EMAET had a decent opening too according to BOI considering its budget, limited release and the absence of hit music/item songs...

PC is balancing the hits with the strong roles, and kareena gave all her strong roles in 2004-2007 (Wherein she did win 2 filmfare critics awards (Dev n chameli), all the best actress awards for JWM and critics awards for Omkara which were considered her "landmark" performances btw) and is doing the big hit films now...its just a different strategy to PCs...instead of mixing it up, she did them in separate phases of her career...the difference is merely that she had the awards then, and the hits now...


she has a pile of flops:

and as for predicting if she will be forgotten, like i said none of us are astrologers here...so its a wait n watch game...

but , if uve already made up ur mind to dismiss everything as PR, surname and contacts, then therz no point even arguing...

Edited by pathaka - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: ponymo

Dum Maaro Dum was declared an above average grosser at the box office. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dum_Maaro_Dum_(film)

So if Rohit Sippy casted some other actor other than Abhishek its a flop?? lolz which contract did he sign saying he will only work with Abhishe,k??? 😕😕
Veer Zaara was WRITTEN for Aishwarya. Simi Garewal herself said it to Aish in that Rendezvous show. But thanks to Salman-SRK-Yashraj she lost the film
And I donno if ur trying to be insolent by saying the heroine had to wear clothes. lol. Dhoom 2 was one of the only films where she had worn modern type of clothing

You are giving Wiki as the proof after editing it? Here I have more reliable proof about the steep fall DMD saw:
All that crap about losing films because of SRK are rumours spread by Aishwarya's PR to defame SRK. In reality Aishwarya wasnt cast as she was a poor actress. Ash had gotten desperate just like Bebo is desperate today after she tried hard to get VZ but was rejected for her poor emoting skills. She was trying very hard to take Kajol's place as SRK's leading lady and couldnt take the rejection.
SRK even had an issue with PZ since their Dil Se days but he didnt have a problem working with her in several films including VZ.
Edited by -ksh- - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Kal El

It's sad that this is still a thing of concern in 2012.


welcome back dude, can you please give me 'stand back you fools tumbler gif couldn't find it anywhere
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: -ksh-

You are giving Wiki as the proof after editing it? Here I have more reliable proof about the steep fall DMD saw:
All that crap about losing films because of SRK are rumours spread by Aishwarya's PR to defame SRK. In reality Aishwarya wasnt cast as she was a poor actress. Ash had gotten desperate just like Bebo is desperate today after she tried hard to get VZ but was rejected for her poor emoting skills. She was trying very hard to take Kajol's place as SRK's leading lady and couldnt take the rejection.
SRK even had an issue with PZ since their Dil Se days but he didnt have a problem working with her in several films including VZ.

to defame SRK? What will they get by defaming him? 😕 And lol @ the way ur projecting him as this abla nara. So i am guessing he dint even throw her from chalte chalte. Aish herself must have walked away right. 😆
FACT: Veer Zaara was written for Aishwarya, plz watch Rendezvous with Simi garewal show Aish episode. Simi also mentions Aish was doing 5 films with SRK, but she was thrown out of all of them because SRK was not such a saint afterall
Your theroy that she wasnt cast as she was a poor actress doesnt hold any water. How did she emote in movies like HDDCS, JodhaAkbar,Raincoat and other movies then? They were surely tougher roles than Zaara. But even if I accept it as ur personal opinion... Firstly, if she really was not cast in VZ for being a poor actress, why would Yashraj go for a poorer actress like Priety? Secondly, if Yashraj doesnt cast poor actresses how can u explain him casting Katrina kaif in his current film? 😉
Sure...believe what u want to! 😃
Edited by ponymo - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: pathaka


JWM was a weak opener??...well BOI apparently disagrees:
It managed an above average opening despite competition from OSO and saawariya

Dint Jab we met release weeks before OSO and Sawariya?Then what do those films have to do with its opening?😳
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Posted: 13 years ago
I hope career doesnt hurt her marriage!😆

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