Arjun-Purvi Romeo-Juliet? In praise of Trish

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Dear Trish,
Thank you for sharing such an exquisitely sensitive and beautiful piece of writing with all of us. You have covered every possible angle of importance, and with admirable fairness and compassion.
The only, small reservation I have is about the title. Arjun-Purvi are no Romeo-Juliet. The lovers from Verona had NO inhibitions either about acknowledging their love or about doing whatever was necessary to protect it. They were not interested in sacrifices for 'family reputation', and Romeo, sighting Juliet, forgets all about Rosalind in an instant. Their love is star-crossed because circumstances conspire against them, not because they have the slightest reservation about going all out for their love. Of course, Romeo was 16 and Juliet 14, and it is perhaps only the very young who can count the world (and life) well lost for love.
Reverting to Arjun-Purvi, I have not seen the SBS segments (the links given by Dhruvi seem somehow to lead me invariably to a tutorial college website), which seem to be affecting the assessments of Arjun's behaviour and of future developments more even that the episodes themselves. However, I have some idea of what they show from the posts, and I agree that they are far worse than yesterday's party episode.
Even wrt the party episode, I see that there is somewhat more understanding being displayed now for Arjun's failure to stop the engagement. There have always been many excuses for his mistakes up to this point which I need not repeat here. And he is obviously head over heels in love with Purvi, as can be seen, apart from all that took place earlier, from their delightful exchanges before tragedy strikes. But all this is of no avail when he falters and chickens out at the crucial moment.
I have, as you know, been one of his staunchest defenders so far, but on this, I would agree with you. It is a sad fall from grace - an inexcusable failure of nerve at the time when it was needed the most. I have always believed, and said in this forum, that heroes, whether in great literature or outside it, are often flawed, and that this adds to the depth of their characterization. But their flaws – think of Othello or Karna in the Mahabharata - were also on the grand scale, and they were not due to weakness or folly. This one is.
In crunch situations, what a hero looks out for is to protect the one thing that is the most important for him, come what may. He has to choose, to make a stand. Here, for Arjun, it was his relationship with Purvi. And he fails to deliver. That he hurts himself as much, if not more, that he hurts Purvi is no excuse, or even a mitigating factor. If I had been there, I would have been strongly tempted to plant a solid kick in the seat of his pants. I am sorry to descend so abruptly from your elegiac style to the language of the streets, but that is how I feel right now.
What dismays one is not so much that Arjun is unable to stop the engagement. He could have argued vehemently and been silenced; he is in awe of his father and might be shown as unwilling to rebel against him openly. One could have understood that. It is the rationale that he offers for doing nothing – that he cannot reveal Purvi's name in front of all these people, that his father's image would be damaged, that Ovi's reaction would be unpredictable, and so "I cannot be so selfish" – that is unacceptable. In all this, he somehow forgets that abandoning Purvi to protect these others would really be the most selfish of all, for it is he who has got her so deeply entangled in this relationship, and he owes it to her to look after it and her.
For most of us, PR has been primarily about the Arjun-Purvi track, and that is in an unholy mess right now. It is not just that the CVs have (temporarily?) crippled Arjun's character. It is that they seem to be busy doing the same to Purvi as well. One can understand her 'sacrifice' for the sake of her aayi; she is after the daughter of Archana, who is a 'sacrifice' specialist – her latest being to sacrifice Manav's and her future happiness to please the selfish, surly and ungrateful Sachin. No wonder Purvi does not think twice about giving up Arjun without bothering that, as you have put it so well, "this love is not her individual possession but belongs to Arjun as well".
What is worse is that having done this, she seems, if the SBS segments are correct, to be abandoning her self-respect as well. Chewing Arjun out, and even slapping him are just fine, and we can understand that she cannot now repeat her by now familiar resignation routine and tear up the PoA, as she would never be able to explain to her family why she gave up such a golden opportunity. But why does she have to carry a file for Arjun to the restaurant? She now has full financial and administrative powers – the text of the first page of the PoA can be read clearly – and she does NOT need Arjun's approval for anything. Even if she did need to consult him about something, she could have sent the file thru a staff member. Why land up there, be snubbed by Ovi and shed tears seeing Ovi display her new found 'rights' to Arjun? This is not just folly, it is pure masochism.
What Purvi should have done was to concentrate on her new job and prove that she can indeed manage on her own and do even better than Arjun, as he himself tells her earlier. What I have admired in Purvi is that she is that rara avis among women in Indian TV soaps – an unaffected, confident, and extremely capable professional, who lives, breathes and dreams only about her work and can beat any man at this game. Remember the time during the lunch with Vinay when she immediately knows that the contract that would need changes would be the one with Malhotra Enterprises? Vinay does not have a clue. It would be a great pity if her unique pehchaan were to be reduced to the standard thyaag, and to languishing with tears in her eyes.

It thus all comes down to the same thing, that so many people can be turned inside out at the whim of the CVs. We have all fallen hopelessly in love with for a couple of virtual characters over whose fate we have ABSOLUTELY no control. And as for the idea that we can influence the writers of PR by stopping watching PR and thus lowering the TRPs, those suggesting this have no idea how the TRP system actually works. (Please see the link to a good article of January last on this: http://amic.org.sg/blog/2011/01/12/broadcasters-must-pay-to-expand-trp-system-india/)

The Indian TRP system is based on just 8000 viewer homes ALL over India, and the govt. now wants this raised to 30,000! For a country of 1.2 billion, where at least 200 million cable connections exist. So, we have NO way of making Ekta Kapoor (a prime example of a super-manipulative TV boss) and her minions change course if they do not want to.

I think we should all concentrate instead on praying real hard to Ganapati Bappa, so that he, in his grace, might grant the PR creative team some sadbuddhi, and rescue Arjun-Purvi from the quagmire. If Ovi has to lump it in the process, so be it. After all, no one ever seems to have spared a thought for Rosalind in Romeo and Juliet!

Shyamala B.Cowsik

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Romeo and Juliet

What happened in today's episode and what is to follow, after today's sbs segments, we all know. I kept ignoring messages in the forum, another Archana and Manav in the making, but I was wrong in doing so. I betrayed my own heart. The sacrifice will begin and soon.

"When the going gets tough, the tough get going."

This quote has always applied to our handsome hero from Canada -- Arjun Kirloskar -- a man who charmed his way into our hearts by falling in love with the darling of our hearts, Purvi. He did everything possible, and as intensely as possible for a woman he finally knew he had fallen in love with. He took a direct rejection from her head-on. He feared no one when it came to confessing to her, in her locality, right in front of her house, in the midst of a community of strangers. He gave up his powers to his company to a woman he loved, cherished and one who had insensitively once rejected him. He told no one about his new found emotions and tears, and packed his bags to return to a country where he was raised. However, as destiny would have it, or his luck, Purvi, his lady love, realised her love for him before it was too late. He found her waiting outside the airport, crying, and the moment he saw her, he knew it was him she was crying for. His heart swelled in happiness, when he saw her blush, his lips cracked into smiles one after the other, when she nodded her head and said that she was happy he had not left India. His breath caught in his throat, when she said "I love you" to him. His dream had indeed come true.

A man who feared no one when it came to business and now in love, all of a sudden fell victim to a moment of cowardice or maybe simple shock. Yes, he displayed complete and utter helplessness at a crucial time. On the day when it so mattered, he just did not open his mouth and his heart. He did not defend his love, he saw the pain in Purvi's eyes, but did not do anything. Did he not remember how difficult it was to convince Purvi when she felt wronged? Did he not remember that she left him because of that one forehead kiss misunderstanding? and that she had rejected him outrightly, even after he had confessed. This engagement is a major wrong in Purvi's eyes and Arjun knows it. Had he said something there and then, Purvi would have understood. But standing there in a trance, and getting enagaged, to another woman, was akin to plunging a knife into Purvi's heart, as was into his own.

However, he is human after all, and when the going got tough, Arjun Kirloskar, the braveheart crumbled. I shall wait for another time and another day, when Arjun returns to the intensity of love that can turn instances of cowardice/or perhaps shock into events of fearlessness. But Purvi, the love of his life, has slipped through his fingers, as the ring slipped into his finger.

My heart today goes out to Purvi Deshmukh. A lovely woman, who at the moment, has only memories to lean on and an inner strength, which I know will take her through the events which are to come next. She will freeze those loving emotions she yet feels and will not trust Arjun for a long time to come. She will also sacrifice herself for Ovi, that I am sure of, because of a debt she feels she owes to Archana and Manav. And for that she might show herself to be someone she is not, so as to gain disapproval in the eyes of Arjun, a man she so loves now.

Romeo and Juliet, the perfect couple, had an imperfect ending. Arjun and Purvi will now sacrifice for Ovi, someone who I don't think has made a place in our hearts, the way ARVI have. Ovi, never will make that special place in my heart. Never. Arjun, the man who dared to bare his heart, has changed into a putty in the hands of circumstances. The light of his courage has in this moment been taken out.

I hope Arjun and Purvi , the perfect couple, somehow, have the perfect ending, inspite of it all. I still have hope that Arjun will get out of his trance, and return to being a man of intense courage and bravery as we have always known him to be. And Purvi will not eventually turn into another Archana, and give away her love to Ovi as a present, because this love is not her individual possession but belongs to Arjun as well.

But Arjun, I believe from the sbs segment, goes on allowing Ovi to hug him in front of Purvi. Is this the love we were all craving to see? Is this what made ARVI so lovable? Is this the intense Arjun we all knew? Arjun allows Ovi to yell at Purvi? I am glad Sushant left the show. He would have stagnated here after a while, because sometimes in PR love is gagged and people sometimes find themselves hurt and saddened. Because men of honor and bravery all of sudden develop feet of clay. But I have some hope for PR, the sensitivity sometimes displayed by the overwhelmingingly deep characters like Archana, sometimes Manav and Purvi, at times Arjun, keep my heart attached to Pavitra Rishta. Because under all these layers of manipulation and sacrifices, is a river of love, which at times resurfaces and tells us that true love and bond surpasses all negativities.

I do still hope ARVI have it in them to climb out of the mess and find a way out of stifling relationships that mar true love.

P.S. -- I am sorry if I hurt anyone's sentiments. But I just shared my own. I do still love Pavitra Rishta, always will for showcasing true love as real as it can be.

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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear Trish,
Thank you for sharing such an exquisitely sensitive and beautiful piece of writing with all of us. You have covered every possible angle of importance, and with admirable fairness and compassion.
The only, small reservation I have is about the title. Arjun-Purvi are no Romeo-Juliet. The lovers from Verona had NO inhibitions either about acknowledging their love or about doing whatever was necessary to protect it. They were not interested in sacrifices for 'family reputation', and Romeo, sighting Juliet, forgets all about Rosalind in an instant. Their love is star-crossed because circumstances conspire against them, not because they have the slightest reservation about going all out for their love. Of course, Romeo was 16 and Juliet 14, and it is perhaps only the very young who can count the world (and life) well lost for love.
Reverting to Arjun-Purvi, I have not seen the SBS segments (the links given by Dhruvi seem somehow to lead me invariably to a tutorial college website), which seem to be affecting the assessments of Arjun's behaviour and of future developments more even that the episodes themselves. However, I have some idea of what they show from the posts, and I agree that they are far worse than yesterday's party episode.
Even wrt the party episode, I see that there is somewhat more understanding being displayed now for Arjun's failure to stop the engagement. There have always been many excuses for his mistakes up to this point which I need not repeat here. And he is obviously head over heels in love with Purvi, as can be seen, apart from all that took place earlier, from their delightful exchanges before tragedy strikes. But all this is of no avail when he falters and chickens out at the crucial moment.
I have, as you know, been one of his staunchest defenders so far, but on this, I would agree with you. It is a sad fall from grace - an inexcusable failure of nerve at the time when it was needed the most. I have always believed, and said in this forum, that heroes, whether in great literature or outside it, are often flawed, and that this adds to the depth of their characterization. But their flaws ' think of Othello or Karna in the Mahabharata - were also on the grand scale, and they were not due to weakness or folly. This one is.
In crunch situations, what a hero looks out for is to protect the one thing that is the most important for him, come what may. He has to choose, to make a stand. Here, for Arjun, it was his relationship with Purvi. And he fails to deliver. That he hurts himself as much, if not more, that he hurts Purvi is no excuse, or even a mitigating factor. If I had been there, I would have been strongly tempted to plant a solid kick in the seat of his pants. I am sorry to descend so abruptly from your elegiac style to the language of the streets, but that is how I feel right now.
What dismays one is not so much that Arjun is unable to stop the engagement. He could have argued vehemently and been silenced; he is in awe of his father and might be shown as unwilling to rebel against him openly. One could have understood that. It is the rationale that he offers for doing nothing ' that he cannot reveal Purvi's name in front of all these people, that his father's image would be damaged, that Ovi's reaction would be unpredictable, and so "I cannot be so selfish" ' that is unacceptable. In all this, he somehow forgets that abandoning Purvi to protect these others would really be the most selfish of all, for it is he who has got her so deeply entangled in this relationship, and he owes it to her to look after it and her.
For most of us, PR has been primarily about the Arjun-Purvi track, and that is in an unholy mess right now. It is not just that the CVs have (temporarily?) crippled Arjun's character. It is that they seem to be busy doing the same to Purvi as well. One can understand her 'sacrifice' for the sake of her aayi; she is after the daughter of Archana, who is a 'sacrifice' specialist ' her latest being to sacrifice Manav's and her future happiness to please the selfish, surly and ungrateful Sachin. No wonder Purvi does not think twice about giving up Arjun without bothering that, as you have put it so well, "this love is not her individual possession but belongs to Arjun as well".
What is worse is that having done this, she seems, if the SBS segments are correct, to be abandoning her self-respect as well. Chewing Arjun out, and even slapping him are just fine, and we can understand that she cannot now repeat her by now familiar resignation routine and tear up the PoA, as she would never be able to explain to her family why she gave up such a golden opportunity. But why does she have to carry a file for Arjun to the restaurant? She now has full financial and administrative powers ' the text of the first page of the PoA can be read clearly ' and she does NOT need Arjun's approval for anything. Even if she did need to consult him about something, she could have sent the file thru a staff member. Why land up there, be snubbed by Ovi and shed tears seeing Ovi display her new found 'rights' to Arjun? This is not just folly, it is pure masochism.
What Purvi should have done was to concentrate on her new job and prove that she can indeed manage on her own and do even better than Arjun, as he himself tells her earlier. What I have admired in Purvi is that she is that rara avis among women in Indian TV soaps ' an unaffected, confident, and extremely capable professional, who lives, breathes and dreams only about her work and can beat any man at this game. Remember the time during the lunch with Vinay when she immediately knows that the contract that would need changes would be the one with Malhotra Enterprises? Vinay does not have a clue. It would be a great pity if her unique pehchaan were to be reduced to the standard thyaag, and to languishing with tears in her eyes.

It thus all comes down to the same thing, that so many people can be turned inside out at the whim of the CVs. We have all fallen hopelessly in love with for a couple of virtual characters over whose fate we have ABSOLUTELY no control. And as for the idea that we can influence the writers of PR by stopping watching PR and thus lowering the TRPs, those suggesting this have no idea how the TRP system actually works. (Please see the link to a good article of January last on this: http://amic.org.sg/blog/2011/01/12/broadcasters-must-pay-to-expand-trp-system-india/)

The Indian TRP system is based on just 8000 viewer homes ALL over India, and the govt. now wants this raised to 30,000! For a country of 1.2 billion, where at least 200 million cable connections exist. So, we have NO way of making Ekta Kapoor (a prime example of a super-manipulative TV boss) and her minions change course if they do not want to.

I think we should all concentrate instead on praying real hard to Ganapati Bappa, so that he, in his grace, might grant the PR creative team some sadbuddhi, and rescue Arjun-Purvi from the quagmire. If Ovi has to lump it in the process, so be it. After all, no one ever seems to have spared a thought for Rosalind in Romeo and Juliet!

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Purethought: Posted: 03 May 2012 at 8:51am | IP Logged

Romeo and Juliet

What happened in today's episode and what is to follow, after today's sbs segments, we all know. I kept ignoring messages in the forum, another Archana and Manav in the making, but I was wrong in doing so. I betrayed my own heart. The sacrifice will begin and soon.

"When the going gets tough, the tough get going."

This quote has always applied to our handsome hero from Canada -- Arjun Kirloskar -- a man who charmed his way into our hearts by falling in love with the darling of our hearts, Purvi. He did everything possible, and as intensely as possible for a woman he finally knew he had fallen in love with. He took a direct rejection from her head-on. He feared no one when it came to confessing to her, in her locality, right in front of her house, in the midst of a community of strangers. He gave up his powers to his company to a woman he loved, cherished and one who had insensitively once rejected him. He told no one about his new found emotions and tears, and packed his bags to return to a country where he was raised. However, as destiny would have it, or his luck, Purvi, his lady love, realised her love for him before it was too late. He found her waiting outside the airport, crying, and the moment he saw her, he knew it was him she was crying for. His heart swelled in happiness, when he saw her blush, his lips cracked into smiles one after the other, when she nodded her head and said that she was happy he had not left India. His breath caught in his throat, when she said "I love you" to him. His dream had indeed come true.

A man who feared no one when it came to business and now in love, all of a sudden fell victim to a moment of cowardice or maybe simple shock. Yes, he displayed complete and utter helplessness at a crucial time. On the day when it so mattered, he just did not open his mouth and his heart. He did not defend his love, he saw the pain in Purvi's eyes, but did not do anything. Did he not remember how difficult it was to convince Purvi when she felt wronged? Did he not remember that she left him because of that one forehead kiss misunderstanding? and that she had rejected him outrightly, even after he had confessed. This engagement is a major wrong in Purvi's eyes and Arjun knows it. Had he said something there and then, Purvi would have understood. But standing there in a trance, and getting enagaged, to another woman, was akin to plunging a knife into Purvi's heart, as was into his own.

However, he is human after all, and when the going got tough, Arjun Kirloskar, the braveheart crumbled. I shall wait for another time and another day, when Arjun returns to the intensity of love that can turn instances of cowardice/or perhaps shock into events of fearlessness. But Purvi, the love of his life, has slipped through his fingers, as the ring slipped into his finger.

My heart today goes out to Purvi Deshmukh. A lovely woman, who at the moment, has only memories to lean on and an inner strength, which I know will take her through the events which are to come next. She will freeze those loving emotions she yet feels and will not trust Arjun for a long time to come. She will also sacrifice herself for Ovi, that I am sure of, because of a debt she feels she owes to Archana and Manav. And for that she might show herself to be someone she is not, so as to gain disapproval in the eyes of Arjun, a man she so loves now.

Romeo and Juliet, the perfect couple, had an imperfect ending. Arjun and Purvi will now sacrifice for Ovi, someone who I don't think has made a place in our hearts, the way ARVI have. Ovi, never will make that special place in my heart. Never. Arjun, the man who dared to bare his heart, has changed into a putty in the hands of circumstances. The light of his courage has in this moment been taken out.

I hope Arjun and Purvi , the perfect couple, somehow, have the perfect ending, inspite of it all. I still have hope that Arjun will get out of his trance, and return to being a man of intense courage and bravery as we have always known him to be. And Purvi will not eventually turn into another Archana, and give away her love to Ovi as a present, because this love is not her individual possession but belongs to Arjun as well.

But Arjun, I believe from the sbs segment, goes on allowing Ovi to hug him in front of Purvi. Is this the love we were all craving to see? Is this what made ARVI so lovable? Is this the intense Arjun we all knew? Arjun allows Ovi to yell at Purvi? I am glad Sushant left the show. He would have stagnated here after a while, because sometimes in PR love is gagged and people sometimes find themselves hurt and saddened. Because men of honor and bravery all of sudden develop feet of clay. But I have some hope for PR, the sensitivity sometimes displayed by the overwhelmingingly deep characters like Archana, sometimes Manav and Purvi, at times Arjun, keep my heart attached to Pavitra Rishta. Because under all these layers of manipulation and sacrifices, is a river of love, which at times resurfaces and tells us that true love and bond surpasses all negativities.

I do still hope ARVI have it in them to climb out of the mess and find a way out of stifling relationships that mar true love.

P.S. -- I am sorry if I hurt anyone's sentiments. But I just shared my own. I do still love Pavitra Rishta, always will for showcasing true love as real as it can be.

Trish

Shyamala. an evocative piece of writing, as usual!👏 I told myself I would stay away from the boards today as the party scene continued to bother me through the night - that is how heavily it has weighed on my mind! But here I am.
@red - could not agree with you more! Arjun needs a kick and more. If he had the courage to love, he should have had the courage to pursue and endure at all costs.
@blue - I didn't hear him think once of Purvi - his only thoughts were about his dad and Ovi which ticked me off the most.😡
@maroon - yes, how do we make Purvi understand that "their" love belongs to Arjun as well?
But then he bartered it off for his dad's reputation and Ovi's feelings, so serves him right if Purvi is doing the same except in return for her Aai Baba's happiness. Tit for tat. He needs to realize what he has lost. If it was anyone other than Arjun, I would have been tempted to use jerk, heel, and worse as epithets.
@purple - exactly, why did Purvi have to chase him down to the restaurant? As Laurie or Trish or Archana wrote yesterday, Sachin's presence at the party was only to provide Purvi a chance to deliver that challenge to Sachin. So also, the candle light dinner and Purvi' s interruption were solely to humiliate her and cause more angst amongst us, Purvi fans.
@ green - right, who cares for Rosalind? it is not Rosalind's story, the script belongs to Romeo and Juliet. Likewise, Ovi is the interloper, the aside, in the ARVI story, Ovi can wait to feature in her own "RomVi" (Ovi Romil) story.
Did not know that about the TRP ratings. We have something called the Nielsen ratings here and we were a Nielsen family.
I better get cracking as I am running late and the culprit as usual is PR!😃
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@Shamala...couldn't read ur post anytime on the forum😔...but i read this 1...its really wonderful..u write it so well..i appreciate it😳
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Loved your writing, absolutely brilliant! I am looking forward to read more from the both of you :-)
And thank you for clarifying the TRP issue here. Because stopping to watch PR for while is baseless. However, I am loyal Arvi fan and I Always Will be no matter what tricks the cvs Will play. I know that they Will end up together. And when they do they Will be stronger!
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@Shyamala.. Well said here.."But all this is of no avail when he falters and chickens out at the crucial moment. "
CVs have really sabotaged Arjun's character.
Dad's image, Ovi's feelings.. Engagement..Whether it leaves Purvi's mind or not, it will never leave my mind. I was literally in tears after watching the episode.
so "beautiful love (aka Pavitra Rishta) never exists it is all illusion".
If Arjun is so vulnerable to his ownself, Why did he go thru so much for our awesome Purvi's acceptance. Currently he is nothing but a pure saddist.
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Dear Shyamala,🤗

I thank you a lot for your praise for my post and thanks so much for sharing your wonderful post with us. 👏

I agree with everything you have written here. I do wish to say though, that I have stopped watching the episodes on television solely because I was not watching PR for masochism (apt word used by you), but for a strong pure bond between two sweethearts. I am also protecting my heart strongly from the insensitivity displayed by writers and makers of Pavitra Rishta right now. But I do hope, that this insensitivity will thaw out soon and ARVI will be back together again. I am glad you told me about TRP's though. It helps to know, that they don't really know which program is actually running well and which is not. :) So, it makes more sense to take a detached perspective to ARVI as of now, even though it is easier said than done.

Purvi like you said, I hope will be shown as someone with a strength of mind and character that will soon propel her into a zone where no amount of jealousy or pain will reach her. She could have sent the file through someone else, but she had to run to the restaurant where Arjun was dating Ovi, letting her hold his hand, hug him and say words of endearment to her ( which I know were meant for Purvi -- but Ovi does not know that). This segment killed my enthusiasm for PR, when I read Shruti's update. I knew that the writers in the present track have lost a sense of sympathy for the viewers and for Purvi (Piling on miseries on Archana wasn't enough? they had to bring Purvi in there too? Purvi is Archana's strength, now they weaken her too?). I just know it, so unless they regain that sympathy for their viewers, I am happy to lounge here in the forum whenever I can, and read the updates and comment.

After reading the update on the upcoming episodes, my mind also went back to the Manav-Archana- Shravani track. It was a similar situation of sacrifice, but Shravani was never shown hugging Manav in privacy or in front of Archana. So, I gathered, that this time, the PR track might heap some major torture upon their fans, by murdering ARVI right in front of our eyes. Vinay never hugged Purvi. And Arjun was spared the pain. Not Purvi this time. Not her. Why, for god sake?

Although I have not seen Arjun's birth chart, but I can say he is a Venus in Scorpio (meaning loyal and intense in love) and not a Venus in Aries (falling in and out of love).. lol.. So, he will continue to love Purvi. But Bappa needs to instill the fear of loss in him again -- only the fear of losing Purvi will bring him out of his slumber. For this and solely this reason, I hope a new man enters Purvi's life and Arjun realises that this time, he has no choice but to be a braveheart and not let another own what he truly loves.

True love is not given on a platter, and expecting Archana-Manav or anyone else to help ARVI should actually be out of the question. Strong characters like Arjun and Purvi need to fight for their love. They should rise above the situation and find a way back to each other.

Alas -- they are characters whose emotions, intelligence and actions are driven by the makers and writers of PR, and we can do nothing but hope for the best and take each day as it comes for ARVI.

Trish

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Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Shyamala. an evocative piece of writing, as usual!👏 I told myself I would stay away from the boards today as the party scene continued to bother me through the night - that is how heavily it has weighed on my mind! But here I am.
@red - could not agree with you more! Arjun needs a kick and more. If he had the courage to love, he should have had the courage to pursue and endure at all costs.
@blue - I didn't hear him think once of Purvi - his only thoughts were about his dad and Ovi which ticked me off the most.😡
@maroon - yes, how do we make Purvi understand that "their" love belongs to Arjun as well?
But then he bartered it off for his dad's reputation and Ovi's feelings, so serves him right if Purvi is doing the same except in return for her Aai Baba's happiness. Tit for tat. He needs to realize what he has lost. If it was anyone other than Arjun, I would have been tempted to use jerk, heel, and worse as epithets.
@purple - exactly, why did Purvi have to chase him down to the restaurant? As Laurie or Trish or Archana wrote yesterday, Sachin's presence at the party was only to provide Purvi a chance to deliver that challenge to Sachin. So also, the candle light dinner and Purvi' s interruption were solely to humiliate her and cause more angst amongst us, Purvi fans.
@ green - right, who cares for Rosalind? it is not Rosalind's story, the script belongs to Romeo and Juliet. Likewise, Ovi is the interloper, the aside, in the ARVI story, Ovi can wait to feature in her own "RomVi" (Ovi Romil) story.
Did not know that about the TRP ratings. We have something called the Nielsen ratings here and we were a Nielsen family.
I better get cracking as I am running late and the culprit as usual is PR!😃

Really liked this Jhanvi ..
Kudos for words in Green (Ovi is going to be green with envy and soon)... 👏👍🏼 and maroon.. Arjun and Purvi have marooned each other, as of now. 😕
Trish
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No, no, he is not a sadist. One knew already what Purvi means to him, of course, but one only has to see how he suffers as he desperately tries to locate Purvi in today's episode to realise it afresh. He loves her more than himself, but somehow, when crunch time comes, he gets his priorities wrong. He is a foolish, confused boy- he is probably only 22 or 23 - and faced with this unexpected crisis, he makes a very serious mistake. Anyone can make a mistake any time, but the seriousness of this mistake depends on its impact and the end result. In this case, both are horrendous.

He is already beginning to get his bearings again; in the precap he is shown telling DK that he loves someone else and so cannot marry Ovi. DK asks for the person's name. Arjun's reply is not shown.So, if he continues the charade with Ovi, it can be only at Purvi's insistence.

Shyamala

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Originally posted by: vgiri

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Shyamala.. Well said here.."But all this is of no avail when he falters and chickens out at the crucial moment. "

CVs have really sabotaged Arjun's character.
Dad's image, Ovi's feelings.. Engagement..Whether it leaves Purvi's mind or not, it will never leave my mind. I was literally in tears after watching the episode.
so "beautiful love (aka Pavitra Rishta) never exists it is all illusion".
If Arjun is so vulnerable to his ownself, Why did he go thru so much for our awesome Purvi's acceptance. Currently he is nothing but a pure saddist.

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Thanks a lot, Cyrine. I too will continue to watch PR, only for Arjun-Purvi, of course. Even their most painful scenes together get to you; today's was a prime example. She asks exactly the same question that I posed in my post when he tries to explain that he was concerned about his father's izzat.: "What about my izzat?". He is brought up short and has no answer.

But as I wrote to vgiri, he loves her desperately, and so does she, and once Purvi has been weaned away from this tyaag fixation, they will get together again.
He is already beginning to get his bearings anew; in the precap he is shown telling DK that he loves someone else and so cannot marry Ovi. DK asks for the person's name. Arjun's reply is not shown.So, if he continues the charade with Ovi, it can be only at Purvi's insistence.

QUOTE=cyrine]Loved your writing, absolutely brilliant! I am looking forward to read more from the both of you :-)
And thank you for clarifying the TRP issue here. Because stopping to watch PR for while is baseless. However, I am loyal Arvi fan and I Always Will be no matter what tricks the cvs Will play. I know that they Will end up together. And when they do they Will be stronger!
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Dear Trish,

I will respond in greater detail tomorrow, but you would like to know that Arjun has already started getting his bearings anew.


One knew already what Purvi means to him, of course, but one only has to see how he suffers as he desperately tries to locate Purvi in today's episode to realise it afresh.

More importantly, in the precap today, he is shown telling DK that he loves someone else and so cannot marry Ovi. DK asks for the person's name. Arjun's reply is not shown.

So, if he continues the charade with Ovi, it can be only at Purvi's insistence.

Now if only he had not made that fatal mistake of putting this off by a day!

Shyamala


Originally posted by: purethought

Dear Shyamala,🤗

I thank you a lot for your praise for my post and thanks so much for sharing your wonderful post with us. 👏

I agree with everything you have written here. I do wish to say though, that I have stopped watching the episodes on television solely because I was not watching PR for masochism (apt word used by you), but for a strong pure bond between two sweethearts. I am also protecting my heart strongly from the insensitivity displayed by writers and makers of Pavitra Rishta right now. But I do hope, that this insensitivity will thaw out soon and ARVI will be back together again. I am glad you told me about TRP's though. It helps to know, that they don't really know which program is actually running well and which is not. :) So, it makes more sense to take a detached perspective to ARVI as of now, even though it is easier said than done.

Purvi like you said, I hope will be shown as someone with a strength of mind and character that will soon propel her into a zone where no amount of jealousy or pain will reach her. She could have sent the file through someone else, but she had to run to the restaurant where Arjun was dating Ovi, letting her hold his hand, hug him and say words of endearment to her ( which I know were meant for Purvi -- but Ovi does not know that). This segment killed my enthusiasm for PR, when I read Shruti's update. I knew that the writers in the present track have lost a sense of sympathy for the viewers and for Purvi (Piling on miseries on Archana wasn't enough? they had to bring Purvi in there too? Purvi is Archana's strength, now they weaken her too?). I just know it, so unless they regain that sympathy for their viewers, I am happy to lounge here in the forum whenever I can, and read the updates and comment.

After reading the update on the upcoming episodes, my mind also went back to the Manav-Archana- Shravani track. It was a similar situation of sacrifice, but Shravani was never shown hugging Manav in privacy or in front of Archana. So, I gathered, that this time, the PR track might heap some major torture upon their fans, by murdering ARVI right in front of our eyes. Vinay never hugged Purvi. And Arjun was spared the pain. Not Purvi this time. Not her. Why, for god sake?

Although I have not seen Arjun's birth chart, but I can say he is a Venus in Scorpio (meaning loyal and intense in love) and not a Venus in Aries (falling in and out of love).. lol.. So, he will continue to love Purvi. But Bappa needs to instill the fear of loss in him again -- only the fear of losing Purvi will bring him out of his slumber. For this and solely this reason, I hope a new man enters Purvi's life and Arjun realises that this time, he has no choice but to be a braveheart and not let another own what he truly loves.

True love is not given on a platter, and expecting Archana-Manav or anyone else to help ARVI should actually be out of the question. Strong characters like Arjun and Purvi need to fight for their love. They should rise above the situation and find a way back to each other.

Alas -- they are characters whose emotions, intelligence and actions are driven by the makers and writers of PR, and we can do nothing but hope for the best and take each day as it comes for ARVI.

Trish

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