Inspiration Vs Copying in hindi music - Page 6

Originally posted by: N Sinha

dear ranig

Dear Bhaskar T. I know many inspirations of ARR which I shall keep to myself as he is a great composer and inspiration here or there doesnt bring him down.
{they are not mentioned on your site}.

So can't we do the same for HR too. Why point fingers at him always when it comes to inspiration. And the worse is when it is HR the term used becomes LIFTED.... and for others inspiration....😕

I am no HR fan. But here in this particular issue I feel lot of biasness is being shown to HR and Anu Malick by both the listeners and the media.

Originally posted by: Bhaskar.T

So can't we do the same for HR too. Why point fingers at him always when it comes to inspiration. And the worse is when it is HR the term used becomes LIFTED.... and for others inspiration....😕

I am no HR fan. But here in this particular issue I feel lot of biasness is being shown to HR and Anu Malick by both the listeners and the media.

👏 👏 THanks Bhaskarji. Love what you wrote there.

I am not trying to instigate a fight , Nsinghji. I'm sorry if it feels that way. But, if you accuse someone of something, you have to be ready get it back.

If someone says look , "I like this composer because of this , and this." I would say KUDOS to you, because I appreciate people who appreciate music.

But, if someone says, "I like this composer, but this other composer here sucks because he does this and this. IN comparison to him, the composer I like is better and has more integrity. SO I have better taste in music."

If you are accusing and questioning the integrity of one of my favourite composers then I will defend him and an Then my answer will be , "BE fair!"

In general , I feel certain people only appreciate old styles of musical quality. They glorify it. THey see no fault in past compositions to a point of disregarding anything new and innovative. OLd is gold kind of thinking.

I don't doubt that some past compositions are absolutely brilliant and can't be compared. But, there are certain compositions in this day and age that are completely unique and have incorporated a fascinating style. IF we stick with old style of melodies than how are we going to progress in music. That's what I say.....

Finally, inspiration or copy. Who is to say? I say if you take the track and you really add some instumentation and only make it better, why not? But, yes I think you must credit the source.

Improving something requires creativity also. Sometimes It requires more work.

Like I said I love ARR, LP, SJ- I really don't care if they got inspired from a source here or there. Infact, in all we do we are inspired from something or the other.

here are some cases of plagmarism by the king of plagmarism anu malik

Taaren hain baraati [Film: Virasat (1997)] Simon and Garfunkel's classic 'El condor pasa'
Teri Chahat Ke siva [Film: Jaanam (1993)] Simon and Garfunkel's 'El condor pasa'!
Mera piya ghar aaya [Film: Yaarana] Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan's 'Mera piya ghar'
Loye loye [Film: Yaaraana] Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan's song 'Loye Loye'
Jawani Diwani [Film: Chamatkar] Boney M's 1979 number 'Bahama Mama' from 'Oceans of Fantasy'
O Meri Neend Churane Wale [Film: Chamatkar] Dr Hook's 'When you're in love with a beautiful Woman'
Bichoo bichoo [Film: Chamatkar (1992)] 'I will follow him' by Little Peggy March.
Dole Dil Dole [Film: Baazi] The Come September tune
Jaane mujhe kya hua [Film: Baazi] Beethoven's Fur Elise
Dheere dheera aap mere [Film: Baazi] Mehdi Hassan's ghazal Rafta rafta!
Aisa zakhm diya hai [Film: Akele hum akele tum] The opening lifted from Deep Purple's Sweet child in time
Dil mera churaya kyon [Film: Akele hum akele tum] Wham's Last Christmas!
Raja ko Rani se Pyar ho gaya [Film: Akele Hum Akele Tum] The Love theme - Godfather by Nino Rota!
Tu waaqif nahi [Film: Khiladiyon ka khiladi] Fernando by ABBA
In the night [Film: Khiladiyon ka khiladi] Laura Branighan's 'Self Control'
Sun sun sun barsat ki dhun [Film: Sir] Jose Feliciano's 'Listen to the falling rain'
Ladna Jhagadna [Film: [[[Duplicate]]] Ella Fitzgerald's 'A-tisket A-tasket'!
Dil kyon dhadakta [Film: Jaanam] Francis Lai's theme for the Love Story
Pehla Pehla pyar layi hoon [Film: Maalamaal] Beethoven's Fur Elise!
Tu woh tu hai [Film: Beqaabu] Theme of The Good, The Bad and the Ugly
Sandese Aate Hain [Film: Border] Opening portion from 'With A little help From my friends' by Beatles
O Main Tera Tum Mere [Film: Ram Shastra] 'More than I can say' by The Crickets
Neela Duppata [Film: Hamesha] Beats from Michael Jackson's 'They Don't really care about us'
Arre Baba [Film: Auzaar Los del Rio's Macarena
Dil De De Dena [Film: Dhaal] Los del Rio's Macarena!
Yeh kaali kaali aankhen [Film: Baazigar] Dean Martin's 'The man who plays the mandolino'!
What is love? [Film: Gentleman] Haddaway's 'What is love'!
Paagalpan chaa gayaa [Film: Jaanam] Beatles number 'And I love her'
Hai mera dil [Film: Josh] Combination of Gypsy Kings' 'Djobi Djoba' and Brian Hyland's 'Sealed with a kiss'!!
Hum to dil se [Film: Josh] Vangelis' 'Conquest of paradise'!
Is tarah aashiqui ka [Film: Imtihaan] Nat King Cole's 'Autumn Leaves'!
Ek shararat hone ko hai [Film: Duplicate] Laura Allen's 'Slip and Slide'
Neend churayi meri kisne o sanam [Film: Ishq] Tolga's 'Sending all my love'!
I was made for loving you [Film: Jaanam Samjha Karo] KISS's 'I was made for loving you'!
Love hua [Film: Jaanam Samjha Karo] 'Angelo' by Brotherhood of Man
Title song [Film: Soldier] Modern Talking's 'Cheri cheri lady'
Kaise kahoon kaise ho tum [Film: Ishq] From 'Right beside you' by Sophie B Hawkins
Aisa milan [Film: Hamesha(1996]] Tune by Andrew Lloyd Webber from The Phantom of the Opera
Hum aur tum [Film: Hamesha (1996)] Josef Ivanovici's 'Anniversary Waltz'
Oh I love you daddy [Film: Akele hum akele tum] Jim Reeves number 'But you love me daddy'
Tumko sirf tumko [Film: Kuch Khatti Kuch Meethi (2001)] Beatles track, 'Norwegian Wood'
Tere dar par sanam [Film: Phir teri kahani yaad aayi (1993)] Prelude from the theme 'Summer of 42', composed by Michel Legrand
Jaane Jaana [Film: Murder (2004)] Bengali pop song by 'Miles', called 'Firiye Dao'.
Bheegey Hont Tere [Film: Murder (2004)] 'Menu tere naal', by Najam Sheraz
Dil ko hazaar baar [Film: Murder (2004)] Traditional Jewish track, 'Mazel tov'!
Aaghaaz Title Song [Film: Murder (2004)] Vangelis' L'enfant's 'Open Sauvage'!
Agar tum mil jao [Film: Zeher (2005)] Agar tum mil jao by Tasavvur Khanum
Jab Bhi...Koi [Film: Hera Pheri (2000)] Mark Morrison's 1996 track 'Return of the mack'
Chale Jaise Hawaayein [Film: Main Hoon Na (2004)] Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan's 'Yeh jo halka halka suroor hai'
Mohobbat Zindagi Hai [Film: Nazar (2005)] Mehdi Hassan's ghazal with the same lyrics.
Yeh khushi ki mehfil [Film: Hum to mohobbat karega (2000)] French singer Edith Piaf's 'La vie en rose'.
Churalo dil [Film: Hum to mohobbat karega (2000)] French singer Edith Piaf's 'La vie en rose'.
Dil hai bechain aaja [Film: Gang (2000)] Maurice Jarre's Theme from Lawrence of Arabia
Deewana dil [Film: Inteha (2003)] Maurice Jarre's Theme from Lawrence of Arabia
Chakle chakle [Film: Deewane Huye Paagal (2005)] Kevin Lyttle's 'Turn me on'
Dil dil dil [Film: Aaghaaz (2000)] Lifted from The Chantay's Pipeline (1962)
Day by day [Film: Pyare Mohan (2006)] Lifted from The Chantay's Pipeline (1962)
Rabba de di [Film: Pyare Mohan (2006)] Tunisian singer Saber El Rubai's Sidi Mansour
Love you my angel [Film: Pyare Mohan (2006)] Ventures 'Walk Don't Run'!

not to mention that a few of his tracks in jaan e maan are inspired from each other 😆

let me add few too.😊

By RDBurman

Chura Liya hain - Adapted from If it's Tuesday .
Mil gaya - Adapted from the ABBA number Mammamia .
Sapna mera - Adapted from Life of a Soldier .

few more :

1. Aaja Sanam (Music by Shankar Jaikishen, Film: Chori Chori, 1958)
Inspired from the Italian Folk tune Tarantella .
( NOTE: The same Italian song was also behind the S.D.Burman composed Chahe koi Khush from the film Taxi Driver .)

2. Ik ladki bheegi bhagi si (Music by S.D.Burman, Film: Chalti ka naam gaadi, 1958)
Inspired from the song Sixteen Tons , made in 1955.

3. Lakhon hain yaha dilwale (Music by O.P.Nayyar, Film: Kismat, 1968)
Inspired from the western- Red River Classic .

4. Ek Haseena thee (Music by Laxmikant-Pyarelal, Film: Karz, 1980)
Inspired from George Benson's We as love.

why blame few. everyone has done it. as long as they r good worthfull music nothng wrong in it. yes do giv the due credit for it. btw even the great poet Rabindranath tagore has done it in many of his songs.😊

but please everyone do comment on copying Vs inspiration also mdroy has asked some Qs in thread please answer them.

Originally posted by: Barnali

4. Ek Haseena thee (Music by Laxmikant-Pyarelal, Film: Karz, 1980)
Inspired from George Benson's We as love.

even ek haseena thi is copied😭.kya hamare md original gaane banaate bhi hain.but anyways its a great song

Dear coolest one

Before arriving at any conclusion please listen to the original song being cited many of the samples cited on
http://www.itwofs.com/ have different notations from our compositions, it needs detailed study. Besides merely using the opening line doesn't mean copying or simply the opening chords........!!(only the webmaster can explain reason behind clubbing them as copy).

Originally posted by: adi_0112

WO !!!!!! ..what a site...!!!...Hmmm..I think I will stick to classical music henceforth...atleast there all are original...

We have such a vast classical resource in hindustani/carnatic, why not base the tunes on them instead of picking up or getting inspired from all over...!!!!!

I listened to some of the songs by Rehman listed in that website, but honestly I hardly found any similarities between Rehman's tune and the actual tune. In a couple of songs, it's only a few seconds which sound a little similar. I think it will not be right to use the word 'lift' in this case. I don't have any problem with this kind of music which is inspired or partially inspired by someone else's. It's bad when someone copies something line by line and doesn't give the credit to the actual owner whether it be Pritam's 'Ya Ali' or Anu Malik's 'Jaane Jaana' or Jatin-Lalit's 'Suniye To' and so on....

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Very good points Kanta... I think that is the key.. There are some songs which are very faintly inspired and the rest is all music composers creativity... I think its not correct to tag such tunes with plagiarism.. while their are other songs from the first note to the last is lifted.... no imagination, no creativity - even the arrangement is not changed... that is plagiarism for sure... And I think that these 2 cases need to be treated differently!

Most importantly = there are composers like Preetam and a few others, who dont even give any credits to these lifts and when caught simply deny the fact! This definitely is a question mark on the integrity of these people towards their profession!!!