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Posted: 13 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: lathika4u

 

telugu movies are much more advanced than Hindi movies... now a days lots of remakes are made from south to north.. example is ghajini -  and more are expected.. all priyadarsan movies in hindi are remakes from malayalam/tamil..
 
Bingo............Ahhhhhhh......U said it rt Lathika..........Thank you from my behalf............😃

it is an entertainment industry.. and its main job is to entertain people, and it should be treated that way rather than taking it in a negative sense.. it look like the poster is ashamed of his culture..😆

today's ragini's performance deserves 30.. as far as the costumes etc is concerned it was there in south century back so nothing wrong in adopting that concept..
 
I am not at all ashamed of my culture(I am not a tamilian nor Telugu gal.I am Kannadati).I am not even talking about Ragini & her performance.......She might have performed well......I have not seen that at all.....I am just telling the fact that the way they portray "The South-Indian Dance Form" is very narrow............It just revolves around "Dapankuttu" or In Kannada we call "Tapanguchi"..
 
Its not like that......I just wanted to clear to those minds who are unaware of South-Dance-Forms that there are many much to it than what they show on "the show"............
Thats it............
I am definitely not pointing Ragini's performance........I am just telling what they show is not xactly what we are..............
But,yes......I agree that the costumes was over-done .................No issue though...........
But,it is not just "Tapanguchi" we have.......we have many more "Folk Dance Forms".............
 
PS : this discussion is getting interesting..............day by day...............😃

 
 
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Posted: 13 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: bandicoot

^ Again wikipedia is no authority. Anybody can change content.


As for how well they justified it, I disagree. Let us leave it as difference in preferences/opinions


🤣 first of all you should know the meaning of folk dance to make comments.. if you don't wanted to believe in wiki here are few meanings from Oxford dictionary etc.. get this meaning cleared and make comments, that will be more meaningful to read..
Term denoting any kind of dance which has been developed within a traditional community, rather than being created by a choreographer or teacher. Steps and patterns are passed on from one generation to another, gradually undergoing change. Many folk dances have their origins in ritual—fertility, marriage, religious, or war—and express the character of the community who dance them. The term was coined in the 18th century to distinguish 'peasant' dance forms from those of the upper classes, but the distinction itself dates back to the 15th century when ballroom dances first began to emerge as separate forms. In the past folk dances have exerted a strong influence on social and theatre dance, particularly during the Romantic period when they were considered to add both local and expressive colour. They have also influenced the styles of some 20th-century choreographers such as Ek, Kylin, and Morris who was himself a performer with a Balkan folk dance troupe in the US. However, with urbanization and demographic change many of the original dances have been lost, even though many Western countries, during the 20th century, attempted to re-discover and preserve these dances, often through specialist troupes of folk dancers. Even where they have survived, however, they are mostly staged as theatre or as tourist attractions rather than being performed as genuine community events.


Britannica Concise Encyclopedia:

folk dance


Dance that has developed without a choreographer and that reflects the traditional life of the common people of a country or region. The term was coined in the 18th century and is sometimes used to distinguish between dances of the people and those of the aristocracy. Courtly and formal dances of the 16th – 20th centuries often developed from folk dances; these include the gavotte, gigue, mazurka, minuet, polka, samba, tango, and waltz. See also country dance; hula; morris dance; square dance; sword dance; tap dance
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Posted: 13 years ago
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post maker i meant was the one who posted this topic.. not you..
Posted: 13 years ago
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Exactly!Folk Dance doesnt have a rule and a framework that you should dance acc to this and that like classical dance.Why is it called folk dance?Coz these dances are always informal..which ppl in their respective states have danced for a long perios of time in social ocassions..and with time..they have become the culture of that particular state and hence folk dance..it orginates from the "folk" as in people of that particular state who have  a casual dance in social gatherings and these dance styles have been carried down by their children etc.And moreover..folk dance doesnt have a certain rule that they should be perfromed in THIS way only..As in if you take classical dances,they do have a rule as to how to dance..particular steps..whereas in folk dances,people know the type dance..but they bring out their own style in it..Like today Sushant's gonna perfrom Chau..and the original Chau isnt perfromed the way he is perfroming..They have particular costume etc..but if u see their dance..their dance form is chau..but they have brought in their own style with the costumes etc..Same way..Ragini and Neerav knew the dance type..but brought in their own flavour to the dance..😛Though Wikipedia isnt an authority..it is the source of info for millions of people worldwide..and most of the times..the info is authentic😉
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Posted: 13 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: lathika4u


🤣 first of all you should know the meaning of folk dance to make comments.. if you don't wanted to believe in wiki here are few meanings from Oxford dictionary etc.. get this meaning cleared and make comments, that will be more meaningful to read..
Term denoting any kind of dance which has been developed within a traditional community, rather than being created by a choreographer or teacher. Steps and patterns are passed on from one generation to another, gradually undergoing change. Many folk dances have their origins in ritual'fertility, marriage, religious, or war'and express the character of the community who dance them. The term was coined in the 18th century to distinguish 'peasant' dance forms from those of the upper classes, but the distinction itself dates back to the 15th century when ballroom dances first began to emerge as separate forms. In the past folk dances have exerted a strong influence on social and theatre dance, particularly during the Romantic period when they were considered to add both local and expressive colour. They have also influenced the styles of some 20th-century choreographers such as Ek, Kylin, and Morris who was himself a performer with a Balkan folk dance troupe in the US. However, with urbanization and demographic change many of the original dances have been lost, even though many Western countries, during the 20th century, attempted to re-discover and preserve these dances, often through specialist troupes of folk dancers. Even where they have survived, however, they are mostly staged as theatre or as tourist attractions rather than being performed as genuine community events.


Britannica Concise Encyclopedia:

folk dance


Dance that has developed without a choreographer and that reflects the traditional life of the common people of a country or region. The term was coined in the 18th century and is sometimes used to distinguish between dances of the people and those of the aristocracy. Courtly and formal dances of the 16th ' 20th centuries often developed from folk dances; these include the gavotte, gigue, mazurka, minuet, polka, samba, tango, and waltz. See also country dance; hula; morris dance; square dance; sword dance; tap dance
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Thank you for taking so many efforts to enlighten me😆

But please dont bother. I know what I am talking about
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I found Ragini's dance not conformimg to the folk theme. Everything seemed grossly overdone and a  little too filmy.
Same with Krushna's dance.
Folk dances are graceful, rhythmic and sometimes naughty. Not vulgar. This point seems to have been missed.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: bandicoot



Thank you for taking so many efforts to enlighten me😆

But please dont bother. I know what I am talking about

you may know what you are talking about but readers do not understand your meaningless posts hence this clarification..
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Posted: 13 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: lathika4u

you may know what you are talking about but readers do not understand your meaningless posts hence this clarification..




im not in a mood to continue a senseless argument with u so please find a bakra

have a good day.

oh and thank u for representing all the readers.. 🥱


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: bandicoot




im not in a mood to continue a senseless argument with u so please find a bakra

have a good day.

oh and thank u for representing all the readers.. 🥱


very good.. you need sense to understand an argument and folk dance..
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Posted: 13 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: return_to_hades



No Bollywood does not fall under folk because it really is not a 'genre' of dance at all. It is as much a dance genre as much as pop music is a music genre. Folk dance or music has a regional or ethnic flair to it. There is a sociocultural significance in its evolution. There is a distinct identity to some forms of movement, a social significance, a style of music. Take folk Indian - bhangra, garba or even foreign like swing, troika, etc, you can see that distinctness.

Bollywood is theatricality. It is a hodge podge medley of all sorts of dance forms fused together for theatrical effect, larger than life histrionics and entertainment. There is no regional or ethnic flair. There is the social significance of cinema; but the dance and music really can be any element at any given time from any given influence.

One of my biggest pet peeve with many shows like JDJ - is excessive Bollywood and theatricality instead of proper dance genres and authenticity. Especially when in India itself we have so many dance forms people are unaware of. It is what in Gleekdom would be called Hairograhy - dramatic hair-tossing (and other added drama)'to distract from the fact their singing and dancing ability is limited.

I wish they displayed a lot more variety of southern dances rather than the same old dapaankuthu that gets on my nerves after a while.




That makes sense. Bollywood copies from way too many sources to be categorised as one genre.

Regarding excessive Bolly theatricals in dance performances, that is what annoys me as well. In an attempt to provide a complete act or dramatise their performance, they end up losing the basic theme at times.

Regarding southern representation in dance performances, there are many different dance styles in the southern states. All the choreos however use the same style maybe because there are lesser rules, more flexiiblity and presumably lesser criticism. There is also a fair bit of caricaturing going on there. To me it looks like a cacophony covered up by a lot of fast steps rather than a decent performance. Another person might come out with a different perspective.


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