Did Viren have a reason to be angry at Nivedita?

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Many people interpreted Viren's anger expression as his 'need for revenge'. But I have a different opinion on it. Ever since the episode where Nivedita pours her heart out to Viren, he looked to me like a changed man. He even goes to the extent of playing the love drama with her to get Siddharth to move on so that he can take his place in her life. When she tells him that now Siddharth knows everything and would break the marriage (He says I won't give up now ' which I interpret as for his Dadaji's sake and for him) he walks to the hall by holding Nivedita's hands and announces to his family that he wants to marry Nivedita. He fights his family for her and even opts for her over them. He also does not take her insult and disrespect for her silently and gives his family a verbal bashing. He had his mother crying buckets.He even went to the extent of catching his parent's hands and standing in front of her ready to fight Siddharth. According to me, He was a crazy lover who played his part well.

He could not take it when Nivedita, for whom he was fighting with his family, left his hand and walked away. He holds her hand and re-assures her that he did not hold her hand to leave it and that he loves her and that she is his life. He would live without his family but would not be able to live without her and that they cannot separate ' now or forever. When she left his hand in the middle of the road he had all reasons to feel angry at her (How could she? After he has done all this for her and after she said that she would not leave his haath or saath'it hurt to see that she actually did not mean what she said. After all, he left his Family and comforts for her sake). When she said the Natak word it hurt him and he felt angry at her because it was not a drama for him. He meant everything he said in front of his family and to her. He loves her like crazy and wants to get her by hook or crook and hence he manipulated her into doing what exactly he wanted. He did not use force, he just reasoned with her for taking the best decision for them.

Do I make sense here? Your Thoughts Please...

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Posted: 14 years ago
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I have the answers to your question
1: viren did indeed fight for her, he did support her. because he wanted Nivi to trust him. she hadn't begun to trust him to this extent and that happened when she saw viren standing by her side. Now nivi trusts him blindly, she did what he wanted. Viren turned into a guy that nivi wanted.
2: about nivi backing her hand away: that anger can't be for that...as nivi asked viren that where they were headed 'ofcourse she had the right too know.
3: yes Nivi mentioned about Natak, I was quite shocked at that too, but she didn't want viren to marry her as she had her own reasons. she didn't love him. viren had to manipulate her mind into this. yes he didn't force her, but viren knew which points to birng out to convince nivi. and that point is SID! each time he mentioned about sid and divya, nivi happily agreed...if you stop and think for once. do you really think sid will leave divya just like that? especially the way viren said it. he exaggerated the whole issue. yes i agree with him for the ignoring part, sid has done that and may be do it again...
4: about nivi pouring her heart, out, viren gave her those pills, just so he can get nivi's weakpoints. and he came to know her history. he didn't change from inside. he still is the same viren, he still has the passion to destroy the girl due to whom his dada ji was in hospital. yes he changed his looks, as he was trying to understand Nivi.
that's what's special about viren, he doesn't show what's in his mind!
and i believe we will only know after tonight's episode on what viren is really upto. we cannot come to a conclusion until we see what we have in store for today!
but what I wrote above are my views only.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Once again, Anamika, I agree with every word. Up till now Viren's actions have been applaudable. But the CT's are an unpredictable group - shocking us viewers is their favorite hobby. So if they turn Viren into a negative character, my socks would be knocked off and I'd be scratching my head in bewilderment for the rest of my life 😕. Why? Because, like you, I can't find a single reason as to why Viren would still be vengeful of Nivi, after seeing the sacrifices she's making for others. Viren's parents and Yashodra claim she's a greedy daughter of a greedy father. Well, who better than Viren should know that isn't the case. If money was what Nivi wanted then she wouldn't be so darn hesitant in marrying Viren. She also gave up her first love for her sister. Once again, Viren knows, that sacrificing her love, even though Sid treated her so shabbily, was no easy task for her and yet she did it. Viren sees Nivi and her family being insulted at every chance the Soods get but neither Nivi nor her family retaliates.
After seeing all the goodness the Sharmas represent and Viren still goes into his revenge mode - I would lose all respect for the character 😡. But one thing I am sure of, even IF Viren is out for revenge - falling in love with Nivi would be inevitable for him 😳
Edited by Ashly19 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ashly19

Once again, Anamika, I agree with every word. Up till now Viren's actions have been applaudable. But the CT's are an unpredictable group - shocking us viewers is their favorite hobby. So if they turn Viren into a negative character, my socks would be knocked off and I'd be scratching my head in bewilderment for the rest of my life 😕. Why? Because, like you, I can't find a single reason as to why Viren would still be vengeful of Nivi, after seeing the sacrifices she's making for others. Viren's parents and Yashodra claim she's a greedy daughter of a greedy father. Well, who better than Viren should know that isn't the case. If money was what Nivi wanted then she wouldn't be so darn hesitant in marrying Viren. She also gave up her first love for her sister. Once again, Viren knows, that sacrificing her love, even though Sid treated her so shabbily, was no easy task for her and yet she did it. Viren sees Nivi and her family being insulted at every chance the Soods get but neither Nivi nor her family retaliates.

After seeing all the goodness the Sharmas represent and Viren still goes into his revenge mode - I would lose all respect for the character 😡. But one thing I am sure of, even IF Viren is out for revenge - falling in love with Nivi would be inevitable for him 😳


Very true! We saw them turning 'Siddharth' to a saint overnight the way he was asking his mother what he did wrong and blah...blah...blah.. and his mother giving justifications. Like you I would be scratching my head too because if one thing I understand well is 'Men' and 'Relationships'. My judgment has never gone wrong (but real and not reel) and I have always been known to see through men. By the way, If Nivedita was after money she should have married Siddharth as he is the legal heir of the Sood Business, not Viren. The way Viren's character is portrayed, he is a real man and would never use a girl to seek revenge on her father. But can't say anything here... because that depends on the writer to show something realistic or not.
Edited by Anamika1570 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anamika1570

That was actually sleeping pills and not some pills to know weak points which is why she slept like a baby till late in the morning. She would not have woken up for some time or talked her heart out if he had not by accident touched her while checking if she is fully unconscious.


you are still not getting my point!
i know they were sleeping pills..but why? why would he give her sleeping pills...? you tell me ur answer before i answer this..lol!
and correction he didn't touch her, a sound woke her up!
Edited by SanKi4eva - 14 years ago
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you are still not getting my point!

i know they were sleeping pills..but why? why would he give her sleeping pills...? you tell me ur answer before i answer this..lol!
and correction he didn't touch her, a sound woke her up!

He gave her the sleeping pills so she could rest and he can help her get the job done coz otherwise he knew that no matter how much Nivi tried she would have not been able to finish the job and he knew that she will not ask for help.
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Originally posted by: zarmeeno

He gave her the sleeping pills so she could rest and he can help her get the job done coz otherwise he knew that no matter how much Nivi tried she would have not been able to finish the job and he knew that she will not ask for help.

correct! but I wouldn't say it was so she could rest, it was because he wanted to become friends with her. and by helping her out indirectly and directly he was trying to get closer to her! no man changes over night.
just think about it, one guy who is so passionate towards his hatred for nivi and her father, he finds out she's the gurl and then tries to be friends with her. that seemed to be a bit fishy there. and nivi said no to hi friendship, it was obvious to know nivi he needed to be freinds with her and that's what he was doing!
he wasn't thinking about nivi, he was only thinking of his aim, that was to get nivi to be his friend, hook or by crook!
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Originally posted by: SanKi4eva


you are still not getting my point!

i know they were sleeping pills..but why? why would he give her sleeping pills...? you tell me ur answer before i answer this..lol!
and correction he didn't touch her, a sound woke her up!



I have told this earlier too... He might have had the 'deed' in mind when he gave her sleeping pills. But after he heard her talking about the guy who broke her heart and that she want him to be happy and she would be happy seeing him happy... it got him to thinking that how can a girl like her hurt anyone (Dadaji)...he changed his mind. He has a painful expression on his eyes when he supports her while she falls asleep after getting up and later when he looks at her(We also hear the flute played in the background... the famous NivRen tune).He also helps her with the decorations by hiring extra staff and paying from his pocket and that too unknowingly.

*The deed I am taking is of the physical nature.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: zarmeeno

He gave her the sleeping pills so she could rest and he can help her get the job done coz otherwise he knew that no matter how much Nivi tried she would have not been able to finish the job and he knew that she will not ask for help.



Yes, That is a very logical explanation too!
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Originally posted by: Anamika1570


I have told this earlier too... He might have had the 'deed' in mind when he gave her sleeping pills. But after he heard her talking about the guy who broke her heart and that she want him to be happy and she would be happy seeing him happy... it got him to thinking that how can a girl like her hurt anyone (Dadaji)...he changed his mind. He has a painful expression on his eyes when he supports her while she falls asleep after getting up and later when he looks at her(We also hear the flute played in the background... the famous NivRen tune).He also helps her with the decorations by hiring extra staff and paying from his pocket and that too unknowingly.

*The deed I am taking is of the physical nature.

okay u may be right there, but from my POV I saw Viren trying to get close to Nivi. It cannot be love...not instant for me atleast! he gave her sleeping pills, so she can doze off and he will do the work in order to impress nivi. that's my POV!

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