Who am I? - Page 112

Originally posted by: Mister.K.

Since we are running out of pages for this thread, I would like some of you to give "Who am I" your best shot. And by best shot, I mean your very best shot. Ask yourself who you really are, your very essence, why do you think you are here on this planet, whether you think there's a BIG secret behind the universe and, if yes, what would you like to do to find it. It doesn't have to be conclusive. You don't have to arrive at a final answer kind of thing.

I would like the main contributors on this topic to go first but others are welcome too, to take a crack at it. I will wrap it up with my thoughts may be on page 148 or 149.

Good luck.

Ahvery well said.

"You (God) have made us for yourself and our hearts are restless until they find their rest in Thee."

We are created in God's image for relationship with him. Being in that relationship is the only thing that will ultimately satisfy our souls. Until we come to know God, we've had many wonderful experiences, but we haven't hit a nail. We've been used for some noble purposes, but not the one we were ultimately designed for, not the one through which we will find the most fulfillment.

Until we come to know God, we are hungry and thirsty in life. We try to "eat" and "drink" all kinds of things to satisfy our hunger and thirst, but yet they remain.

Usually when we keep God out, we try to find fulfillment in something other than God, but we can never get enough of that thing. We keep "eating" or "drinking" more and more, erroneously thinking that 'more' is the answer to the problem, yet we are never ultimately satisfied. Our greatest desire is to know God, to have a relationship with God. Why? Because that's how we've been designed.

Originally posted by: Summer3

Basically we have established that the real I is the consciousness or Atma.

Agreed , but I have to repeat my question regarding the purpose of this intricate creation. If it is without a purpose then we might as well just sit idle doing nothing , after all its perhaps all an illusion . But even if its an illusion I feel there has to b some purpose behind the illusion. The cycle of karma is b'lived by many. Re incarnation explains many of the questions regarding karma & its effects. Many Gr8 yogis too have spoken of different realms or dimensions to which souls seem to migrate as per their stage of evolution. "The consciousness" apparently has worked up quite an elaborate creation with many intricate "laws governing it ". It doesnt appear to B a simple case of waking up from our physical reality unto "the consciousness" There appear to b intermediary steps involved. There has to B a purpose for all this. If not then why even strive for anything including the struggle to survive...any clues regarding this ..anyone ???

Originally posted by: angie.4u

Agreed , but I have to repeat my question regarding the purpose of this intricate creation. If it is without a purpose then we might as well just sit idle doing nothing , after all its perhaps all an illusion . But even if its an illusion I feel there has to b some purpose behind the illusion. The cycle of karma is b'lived by many. Re incarnation explains many of the questions regarding karma & its effects. Many Gr8 yogis too have spoken of different realms or dimensions to which souls seem to migrate as per their stage of evolution. "The consciousness" apparently has worked up quite an elaborate creation with many intricate "laws governing it ". It doesnt appear to B a simple case of waking up from our physical reality unto "the consciousness" There appear to b intermediary steps involved. There has to B a purpose for all this. If not then why even strive for anything including the struggle to survive...any clues regarding this ..anyone ???

Ya Allah kaun jane.😆 The pupose none knows, some say it is just a sport or a play and yet others say "What creation? wake up and stop dreaming! All is just an appearance and temporary".

Originally posted by: Summer3

It seems that once the Truth is known and fully experienced the individual soul becomes part of the whole (basically the false identity and reference is erased).

Then perhaps thats the "Purpose" ie to realise the "Truth". But that wud mean that the individual soul is not aware of the truth. Or , the Truth has been deliberately hidden from the soul whch is supposed to B a part of the ultimate Consciousness. (..why?)So the part is not equivalent to the whole !

Originally posted by: angie.4u

Then perhaps thats the "Purpose" ie to realise the "Truth". But that wud mean that the individual soul is not aware of the truth. Or , the Truth has been deliberately hidden from the soul whch is supposed to B a part of the ultimate Consciousness. (..why?)So the part is not equivalent to the whole !

Thats a good analogy S3, dream or sleep passes through different stages .The soul too possibly does the same B4 'waking up" to sleep again 😆 And yes whats wrong in enjoying a dream esp if its a pleasant one !

Originally posted by: angie.4u

There appear to b intermediary steps involved. There has to B a purpose for all this. If not then why even strive for anything including the struggle to survive...any clues regarding this ..anyone ???

Sorry Angie! It's time to submit your own views on this topic instead of looking at the heavens for answers.

well the more I think about it i feel that the theory of re incarnation & karma answers many questions though not all. The purpose of being born into the physical world is to earn karma good points faster or rather to help one evolve faster & go on to the next stage of soul progression. ultimately to lose all identity & become one with the Consciousness .The progress of the soul is said to B very slow in the soul stage as not much karma is earned in that stage. The physical world is said to b denser & things take longer to manifest and allows ne to work out ones karma & also earn some more good ones thus helping one on its journey. The minus point as explained somewhere is that one loses soul memry and so is liable to fall back further by earning neg points. Thats where the samskaras earned over many lives help to guide oneself. thats all I can manage at the moment. Dont know how far i b liv all this but it at least looks plausible.