I'm so tired of Bollywood stars playing... - Page 13

Originally posted by: starsgo

AK as in Akshay Kumar?????? Examples! Now! 😆 When has AK deviated or even tried to deviate from his last project. Pehle he had a string of action movies that all blend into the same thing at the end of it, and now he has a string of slap-stick comedies that all blend into one. no? There have been a few lucky hits here and there that I liked but that's about it. He, like the other actors, also like to stay on the safe side. =/ Unfortunately.

Originally posted by: sapnon_ki_pari

SRK is autistic in the movie, at least that is what the promo shows.

As for the topic, I feel like if they act well, I don't see anything wrong with portraying mentally challenged people as they are being talked about more without being a taboo. My little cousin who is mentally disabeled loves watching Koi Mil Gaya over and over again, and I don't see anything wrong with superstars acting such roles, this way the audience is even larger.

Originally posted by: starsgo

I mean didn't you know that when it comes to Bollywood superstars, it's their divine right to be where they are. Losers go to acting school, and God forbid! actually act.
😆😆😆 that....is....so....TRUE!😆😆

And he does anime too, and I gotta say (though not to his face 😆) some of this anime is pretty nifty too.

YESH! some Anime's are pure awesomeness.⭐️

Hook me up with some Jap Tele Series names will ya? 😃

Originally posted by: ''~RuWaNi~''

First of all I despise that Lady GaGa. 😎😆

Did I specifically say Indian culture? No. I said the South Asians are oppressed because of their ancient culture and values. India may be the worlds biggest democracy but still there are certain things you can not do and say in a South Asian culturally driven society.

EXAMP:
I would not be able to watch intimate scenes in a movie with my parents, why? yes intimacy is natural, but it's considered deplorable by south Asians and sex as a Taboo subject.

Journalist are obsessed with & it's flash news when some one kisses in a movie.

You can not say "I'm gay" or "atheist" openly, you'll have so much trouble when you'll say that publicly. In some South Asian countries you'll be stoned to death. That's how culturally and religiously oppressed South Asian countries are. and you'll never be elected. XD😆

Remember, they recently made Homosexual acts legal in India, still in majority of South Asian countries; it's still illegal to engage in Homosexual acts; you'll be sentenced to death or prison for life.
Because as a culture they're still supporting certain notional dogmas which asserts that it's forbidden "to be" Homosexual or it's considered blasphemy to be an atheist/rationalist/humanist. They're taken aback because of the cultural oppression when they encounter something different from their set of cultural values.

Therefore you'll have complications when you try to oppose to a certain cultural values when it's erroneous, especially in a society driven by unique cultural values and traits. That's why I say South Asians are oppressed by their culture in so many ways.

So when a movie comes out with emotionally charged issues supporting their conventional beliefs and if it adds more emotional/enthusiastic fuel, people watch it. (Like in MNIK, he encounters discrimination and becomes brave and goes to meet THE PRESIDENT to tell the tales of what went through).

KJO has chosen a great topic to make money; Asians(or any other minority) are discriminated in other countries because they obviously diverge from the culture they're living in, so there's always discrimination. Therefore lots of people might go and watch this movie because they can relate.

On the other hand, will a movie like Milk gain profit in a south Asian country? I highly doubt.

I am not supporting Hollywood, it's just another trashy place, but way better than Bollywood when it comes to ingenuity. And yes the Americans are oppressed by their own culture in so many ways. But they have lots of people who openly oppose like crazy cat ladies when they see defects.

I am just asking for an open minded world who acknowledges that this is 21st century; a generation of people who understand and look beyond their cultural values and see us homosaphien's authentic reality & our stand as a species in the multiverse with rationalism.

It depends on what cinema your longing for. I want to watch psychological, Korean/Japanese horror or thriller movies where I could analyze and figure out things by my self. Maybe it's because I am a Psychology student and an INTJ, so I like to analyze everything.
But you might want cinema to bring a smile to your face in the end of the day. It's just a matter of preference.

Originally posted by: fizzles

@ Rox: Just wanted to bring up Rain Man, since you mentioned it :)

That's gotta be one of my fav films. Dustin Hoffman received a well deserved Oscar for playing the role of an autistic man so well. And he was wonderfully supported by Tom Cruise. I loved the chemistry between the two brothers and how the nature of their relationship changes over time. They begin to develop such a strong connection. And Charlie can see what Ray is capable of, sadly the law doesn't work that way and doesn't feel emotions.

Rain Man was subtle, sincere and touched me in a way that it left me with tears in my eyes. The scenes esp. towards the end of the film between the two brothers were not only wonderfully acted out, the script was very simple yet had the ability to stir emotions within you.

Needless to say, Rain Man is one of my absolute favorite films of all time, putting my obvious bias aside, of course. Dustin Hoffman's performance is one of such unmatched strength and brilliance that we often feel that we are really watching an autistic man on screen. His Autistic, unlike Anil Kapoor's copy, is never annoying or obnoxious, and you always feel for him. Raymond's vacant stare, the monotone voice, the screaming, it was unbelievable. He's nothing less than flat out mesmerizing and his extensive research into autism clearly showing through his impeccably crafted characterization. Seriously....Dustin fearlessly shouldered the emotional center of the story with a character unable to fathom emotions - the fact that he remains endearing, lovable and incessantly credible throughout is a testament to Dustin Hoffman easily deserving every last bit of recognition for such a superb feat. And of course, Tom Cruise equally proves his merit... to morph his arrogant, self-serving yuppie Charlie from a despicably manipulative character to a surprisingly sympathetic man exercising his inner turmoil in a refreshingly fluid and convincing fashion. Like you said, the scene towards the end of the film will make even the most macho of men shed tears.

Now compare this work of art to it's Bollywood rip off, Yuvraaj, and you'll want to shed tears for the intolerable torture of watching Anil Kapoor act like a 6 year old idiot and Salman Khan act as Salman Khan, completely mutating the original Rain Man characters (that they ripped off) beyond the point of recognition.

As for my name is Khan, I don't want to comment on the film too much, since it hasn't released yet. So I cannot make an accurate assessment of the film before I have even seen it. To me, the plus point of the film seems to be the chemistry between SRK and Kajol. As always, they look great together. However, if we look at previous films by Johar, they may have been BO hits but IMO all those films have had fluff but lacked real substance. Hope I don't offend fans of KJo but this is just my personal view.Well, I too love SRK and Kajols' couple, but it seems sort of ridiculous to couple a man, suffering from a disease that makes it impractical for him to know what love is, with the 'love' of his life.

I don't think he is capable of making a film on such a sensitive subject. The chances are that the film will be a success due to the jodi of SRK and Kajol. But whether or not the film will give a correct portrayal of autism, is questionable. For such a subject you need a director that has the capability of directing a film that will not simply "showcase" a disease or mentally challenged individual. The director needs to have vision and needs to do his homework properly. But I have my doubts with Johar, whom I believe is all fluff and candy floss. Exactly, and it's not simply about showcasing a disease or mentally challenged individual. You might as well produce an educational movie on the subject, but the film needs to explore the depths of such individuals.

But not just Karan Johar, there are many directors in Bollywood that make films on sensitive issues but only on a superficial level and don't have it in them to bring real life emotions and circumstances to the big screen. Most are incapable of giving us a film that makes you forget that you're watching a film. Instead, you are constantly reminded that it's just a flick, due to the larger than life appeal of it. It is very important to stick to reality and real emotions, esp. when your film is on a sensitive subject.

Originally posted by: ''~RuWaNi~''

I'll go bungy-jumping if it exceeds my expectations😆 but no doubt it will do well at Box-Office as it is a combination of Karan Johar and SRK-Kajol, so let the blind adulation begin. 😆
Yup, don't get me started on KJo, anyone would know just by looking at him that he's living a self-centric existence.

I completely concur. It's the mentality of the culture in my eyes. That's why these kind of gratuitous crap gets all the attention. I get why he does this "Moral Crusades", well because it works like a charm with the Indian audience. South Asians are oppressed by their culture in great ways; they tend to be obligatory not to openly express feelings/ thoughts & freedom of speech. So movies which are emotionally charged which entangles with values, religion, moral lessons and overcoming obstacles like there's no tomorrow in-order to convey an desire to its expectations; do well in a culture like that.

I genuinely want to send books by Nietzsche to everyone in South Asia, I mean, people are so corrupt in someways that I feel they are in the deep necessity to have doses of coherent rationality & authentic human reality.

These mainstream directors/ story writes don't want to take control of their films! NO WAY, they aint here to make a movie with essence, they are constantly on the run to find the perfect formula to avail the audience and make a profit in-order to lead luxurious lives; huh? who the hell cares about those thirsty African kids?
And plus, the Indian audience seem to detest movies which are sensible and pragmatic. People tend to watch fantasy in-order to escape from their daily lives. How many pragmatic Indian movies have you seen doing well at the box office?. Bollywood is still in business thanks to the millions of mindless superstar worshiping zealots.

KMG was indeed comedy. A bad E.T ripoff with a mentally child wannabe is all there was.

Originally posted by: ''~RuWaNi~''

AHAHA SRK and his biography😆😆😆.....so true it hurts.😆

Donnei Darko fans unite! I fu@ing love that movie.

<3

Well I love anything twisty, roller-coaster ride kind Psychological thrillers. mhhhh Psycho.....

Originally posted by: ''~RuWaNi~''

Surely Hollywood acknowledge talent when they see it, unlike in Bollywood.
Tom Hanks & Ammir Khan FTW😃
From Bollywood "superstars"; AK is the only guy who at least try to deviate from his last project.


Isn't that the guy who made My Blueberry Nights? I don't know much about him ('cause his name sounds like Cantonese and I can not stand the Cantonese language)
So nope, he's not Japanese. Japanese language is beautiful, unlike Cantonese! hmp!
(sorry I have an irrational dislike for the Cantonese & Hong Kong)😉 I have no idea why😆 hmm it's just a sloppy language.😆

BTW have you seen Spirited Away?

Originally posted by: ~prettyinpink~

Don't take anything that has to do with Bollywood, seriously. Bollywood's just a big fat ass JOKE.

Originally posted by: roxthefox

Truer words haven't been said.