Originally posted by: vanadhi
hi frds
i have an serious doubt though balram is transferred from devaki's womb to rohini's one, the world knows only one thing that he the son of vasudev and rohini . By the by krishna is biologically related to devaki . The trone of mathura related to krishna only because he is the son of devaki and blood related grantson of ugrasenna.
Does Vasudev have his own kingdom in any other places? . why he stayed with his wife related royal family.
If it so only krishna have the capacity to sat on the throne through direct blood relations etc.not Balram who is the son of rohini.
Vanadhi
Excellent question!!! 👍🏼 I moved it to this thread, which is here to answer precisely these sort of questions, and which is a sticky for that very purpose!
Actually, Devaki was Ugrasena's daughter - Vasudev wasn't Ugrasena's son. But somehow (someone else can elaborate better), he was not in the line of succession of his father Shura, and when he married Devaki, it was followed by his being imprisoned by Kamsa. Somehow, I have no idea why, when Krishna got him released, he didn't return w/ Devaki, Rohini, Balaram & Krishna to his paternal kingdom.
By the conventional rules of succession of any kingdom, where a son succeeds his father, his son succeeds him and so on, Vasudev would have succeeded Shura, and Balaram would have been his successor (actually, had Devaki's first 6 babies lived, the eldest of them would have been the first in line in succession). Krishna would have been second in line after Balaram, but had Balaram had a son, that son would have been ahead of Krishna in succession hierarchy. I'm forgetting for the moment which kingdom Shura ruled, and who his successors were.
Had Kamsa had any sons by Asti or Prapti (daughters of Jarasandha), they would have been Ugrasena's rightful successors, not Krishna. Krishna being in the line of succession in Mathura always seemed a bit strange - it would be akin to Yudhisthir or Karna being made the successor to Kuntibhoj (actually, Kuntibhoj had a son Purujit) or Rama being in the line of succession of not Ayodhya, but Kaushalya's maayka South Kosala (today's Chattisgarh). Normally, daughter's descendents are successors to her husbands kingdom, not her father's.
Balaram was conceived by Vasudev & Devaki, but b'cos of the threat of getting killed by Kamsa, he was transferred from Devaki's womb to Rohini's by yogamaya (dunno the exact details of this). Since he was born to Rohini, he was universally recognized as Rohini's son. But he was older to Krishna, so would have trumped him as legitimate heir to any throne based on Vasudev. But afaik, he didn't have any sons, so next in line to him would have been Krishna, Pradhyumna, Samba, Charudeshna and so on.
All this is somewhat academic, since Balaram, Krishna and all his sons & grandsons never sat on the throne. After the fracticide @ Dwarka, after Arjun took all the survivors back to Mathura, since there was nobody else from the family surviving, Arjun crowned Vajra - son of Anirudha/Usha as the ruler of the Vrishnis & Andhakas.
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