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Yep, now I remember - Vasusena was what Karna was named. Incidentally, he was called Karna long before he sacrificed the kavach/kundal, which was sometime before the war, when it looked inevitable that he wouldn't abandon the Kauravas. Like at the archery contest where he humiliated Arjun, Karna was what he was called.
So how many sons did Ghatotkacha have? I know of Anjanparva, who fought valiantly but was killed on night 14 by Ashwatthama, shortly before his father was. So what did Barbarik do?
Barbarika had obtained a boon from Krishna to the effect that he would be known by Krishna's own name (Shyam) in the Kaliyuga era (presently ongoing) and worshipped. Krishna had declared that Barbarika's devotees would be blessed just by pronouncing his name from the bottom of their hearts. Their wishes would be granted and troubles removed if they worship Shyamji (Barbarika) with a true piety.
The legend begins with the Mahabharata. Barbarika alias Khatushyamji alias Shyam Baba was a grandson of Bhima, Second of the Pandava brothers. He was the son of Ghatotkacha, son of Bhima, by his wife Ahilawati. Even in his childhood, Barbarika was very brave warrior. He learnt the art of warfare from his mother. God Shiva, pleased with him, gave him the three infallible arrows (Teen Baan). Hence, Barbarika came to be known by the appellation Teen Baandhaari, the "Bearer of Three Arrows". Later, Agni (the god of Fire) gave him the bow that would make him victorious in the three worlds.
When Barbarika learnt that battle between the Pandavas and the Kauravas had become inevitable, he wanted to witness what was to be the Mahabharata War. He promised his mother that if he felt the urge to participate in the battle, he would join the side which would be losing. He rode to the field on his Blue Horse equipped with his three arrows and bow.
Krishna tests BarbarikaKrishna, disguised as a Brahmin, stopped Barbarika to examine his strength. He baited Barbarika by mocking him for going to the great battle with only three arrows. On this, Barbarika replied that a single arrow was enough to destroy all his opponents in the war, and it would then return to his quiver. He stated that, the first arrow is used to mark all the things that he wants to destroy. On releasing the third arrow, it would destroy all the things that are marked and will then return to his quiver. If he uses the second arrow, then the second arrow will mark all the things that he wants to save. On using the third arrow, it will destroy all the things that are not marked.
Krishna then challenges him to tie all the leaves of the peepal tree under which he was standing with these arrows. Barbarika accepts the challenge and meditates to release his arrow by closing his eyes. Then, Krishna without the knowledge of Barbarika, plucks one of the leaf of the tree and puts it under his foot. When, Barbarik releases his first arrow, it marks all the leaves of the tree and finally starts revolving around the leg of Krishna. For this Krishna asks Barbarika, as why was the arrow revolving around his foot? For this Barbareek replies that there must be a leaf under his foot and the arrow was targeting his foot to mark the leaf that is hidden under him. Barbarika advises Krishna to lift his leg, since, otherwise the arrow will mark the leaf by pricking Krishna's leg. Thus, Krishna lifts his foot and to his surprise, finds that the first arrow also marks the leaf that was hidden under his foot. Of course, the 3rd arrow does collect all the leaves (including the one under Krishna's foot) and ties them together. By this Krishna concludes that the arrows are so infallible, that even if Barbarika is not aware of his targets, the arrows are so powerful that they can still navigate and trace all his intended targets. The moral of this incident is that, in a real battle field, if Krishna wants to isolate some one, to avoid them from being Barbarika's victim, then Krishna will not be successful as the arrows can still trace the target and destroy them. Thus Krishna gets a deeper insight about Barbarika's power.
Krishna then asks the boy whom he would favour in the war. Barbarika reveals that he intends to fight for the side whichever is weak. As Pandavas have only 7 Akshouni army, when compared to Kauravas 11, he considers that Pandavas are weak and hence wants to support them so that Pandavas will become victrious. But Krishna asks him, did he seriously give a thought before giving a word to his mother (to support the weak side). Barbarika guesses that his support to the weaker side will make them victrious. Then, Krishna reveals the actual consequence of his word to his mother:
Krishna tells that whichever side he supports will only make the other side weak due to his power. Hence, he is forced to change the side that has become weaker due to his word to his mother. Thus, in an actual war, he will keep oscillating between the two sides, there by destroying the entire army of both sides and eventually only he remains. Subsequently, none of the side is victorious as he will be the only lone survivor. Hence, Krishna avoids his participation from the war by seeking his head in Charity.
The guised Krishna then sought charity from Babarika. Barbarika promised him anything he wished. Krishna asked him to give his head in charity. Barbarika was shocked. Perceiving that all was not as it appeared, he requested the Brahmin to disclose his real identity. Krishna showed Barbarika a vision of His Divine Form and Barbarika was thus graced. Krishna then explained to him that before a battle, the head of the bravest Kshatriya needs to be sacrificed, in order to worship/sanctify the battlefield. Krishna said that he considered Barbarika to be the bravest among Kshatriyas, and was hence asking for his head in charity. In fulfilment of his promise, and in compliance with the Krishna's command, Barbarika gave his head to him in charity. This happened on the 12th day of the Shukla Paksha (bright half) of the month of Phalguna.
Before decapitating himself, Barbarika told Krishna of his great desire to view the forthcoming battle, and requested him to facilitate it. Krishna agreed, and placed the head atop a hill overlooking the battlefield. From the hill, the head of Barbarika watched the whole battle.
At the end of the battle, the victorious Pandava brothers argued amongst themselves as to who was responsible for the victory. Krishna suggested that Barbarika's head, which had watched the whole battle, should be allowed to judge. Barbarika's head suggested that it was Krishna alone who was responsible for the victory: his advice, his presence, his gameplan had been crucial. Barbarika's head said that he had seen the Sudarshana Chakra revolving around the battlefield, hacking the Kaurava army to pieces; and Draupadi, assuming the fearful form of Mahakali Durga, drinking bowl after bowl of blood without allowing even one drop of blood to fall on the earth.
Originally posted by: Vibhishna
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Looks like you are eligible for the wittiest member award too . . .
No, Karna is not my favorite character. In fact, there are very few characters in the MBH that I actually like (and Karna's not exactly one of them). My favorite character is Satyaki, followed by Bhima, Arjuna, Abhimanyu, Ghatotkacha and Babruvahana.
Karna's name was Vrishasena? First time I'm hearing of that. I thought he was named Radheya by his adapted mom, but that Kunti had named him Karna because of the kavach/kundal earlier. I have no idea how the name Karna stuck w/ him. Incidentally, I don't think BRC was correct in depicting Drona as suggesting the name to Adhirath
Oh, I'll always be a fan of Lakshman & his family - no changing that. But Chandraketu just sounds too treta yuga 😆😆😆, and if I picked Angad, people would think I'm an admirer of Vali's son, which I'm not. Here in RF, most people either know who he was, or could know very easily, but in non-Ramayan forums, it would look really weird, and take some explaining. Incidentally, I never checked whether the name Lakshman was taken - I just assumed it was. My YouTube profile pic still has RSKL on it, and that's how it will remain.
Vrisha, as Vibs pointed out, is taken from Karna's son. Karna had, if I recall right, 4 sons, the eldest of who was Vrishasena. On day 17, that kid was involved in a battle w/ Nakula, and was getting the better of him. Arjun was returning to the field after being upbraided by Yudhisthir for going to see him before killing Karna (Yudhisthir had just been badly defeated and humiliated by Karna, and Arjun therefore went to see him). He saw Karna, and he saw Vrishasena getting the better of Nakula. He then reminded Karna that just as Karna had killed Abhimanyu from behind, Arjun would do the same, and Karna would be powerless to prevent it. Arjun then sent his astras at Vrishasena, killing him right in front of Karna, and sparking that last battle between the 2 that ended in Karna's death.
I've never heard of any girls named Vrisha. In any case, another name for Draupadi was Krishnaa, but not too many people claim that it's a girl's name. 😆😆😆 As for the girls in my pic, she is a character in the serial 'Jyoti' named Sudha, who suffers from a multiple personality disorder, and sometimes undergoes a personality change and becomes Devika, who is a completely flamboyant girl of her own, who has no recollection of her family. This is an interesting sub-plot in that serial that I'm following.
You are partly right - I was posting there, and felt somewhat wierd about those many/huge Ramayan siggies there, so Monday, I changed those, and today, the name. They should have a feature on IF so that one can have forum specific siggies and ids. 😆😆😆
As for Charul (now that we know her name - that's my Dhanya), I'm still her fan. Incidentally, in this serial, I'm only a fan of the character, but not the actress - I do not follow Sriti Jha in Shaurya aur Suhani or any other role. I'll continue to post here occasionally, but I recognize that my major time here is a thing of the past.
P.S. I never post my real identity online.
And no, I don't like Barbarik from what you wrote - not only should he have defaulted to the Pandava side because they were righteous, but also because they were his family (for this discussion, please don't say the Kauravas were also his family)
And even if I did, Krishna comes out as so evil - demanding the head of the bravest kshatriya. Where did that come from? Sounds as twisted as the tale of Rama asking for Sita's severed hand or ears. 🤢
SB 9.23.1: Sukadeva Gosvami said: Anu, the fourth son of Yayati, had three sons, named Sabhanara, Caks?u and Pares?n?u. O King, from Sabhanara came a son named Kalanara, and from Kalanara came a son named Sr?jaya.
SB 9.23.2: From Sr?jaya came a son named Janamejaya. From Janamejaya came Mahasala; from Mahasala, Mahamana; and from Mahamana two sons, named Usinara and Titiks?u.
SB 9.23.3-4: The four sons of Usinara were Sibi, Vara, Kr?mi and Daks?a, and from Sibi again came four sons, named Vr?s?adarbha, Sudhira, Madra and atma-tattva-vit Kekaya. The son of Titiks?u was Rus?adratha. From Rus?adratha came Homa; from Homa, Sutapa; and from Sutapa, Bali.
SB 9.23.5: By the semen of Dirghatama in the wife of Bali, the emperor of the world, six sons took birth, namely Anga, Vanga, Kalinga, Suhma, Pun?d?ra and Od?ra.
SB 9.23.6: These six sons, headed by Anga, later became kings of six states in the eastern side of India. These states were known according to the names of their respective kings. From Anga came a son named Khalapana, and from Khalapana came Diviratha.
SB 9.23.7-10: From Diviratha came a son named Dharmaratha, and his son was Citraratha, who was celebrated as Romapada. Romapada, however, was without issue, and therefore his friend Maharaja Dasaratha gave him his own daughter, named Santa. Romapada accepted her as his daughter, and thereafter she married R?s?yasr?nga. When the demigods from the heavenly planets failed to shower rain, R?s?yasr?nga was appointed the priest for performing a sacrifice, after being brought from the forest by the allurement of prostitutes, who danced, staged theatrical performances accompanied by music, and embraced and worshiped him. After R?s?yasr?nga came, the rain fell. Thereafter, R?s?yasr?nga performed a son-giving sacrifice on behalf of Maharaja Dasaratha, who had no issue, and then Maharaja Dasaratha had sons. From Romapada, by the mercy of R?s?yasr?nga, Caturanga was born, and from Caturanga came Pr?thulaks?a.
SB 9.23.11: The sons of Pr?thulaks?a were Br?hadratha, Br?hatkarma and Br?hadbhanu. From the eldest, Br?hadratha, came a son named Br?hanmana, and from Br?hanmana came a son named Jayadratha.
SB 9.23.12: The son of Jayadratha, by the womb of his wife Sambhuti, was Vijaya, and from Vijaya, Dhr?ti was born. From Dhr?ti came Dhr?tavrata; from Dhr?tavrata, Satkarma; and from Satkarma, Adhiratha.
SB 9.23.13: While playing on the bank of the Ganges, Adhiratha found a baby wrapped up in a basket. The baby had been left by Kunti because he was born before she was married. Because Adhiratha had no sons, he raised this baby as his own. [This son was later known as Karn?a.]
SB 9.23.14: O King, the only son of Karn?a was Vr?s?asena. Druhyu, the third son of Yayati, had a son named Babhru, and the son of Babhru was known as Setu.
SB 9.23.15: The son of Setu was Arabdha, Arabdha's son was Gandhara, and Gandhara's son was Dharma. Dharma's son was Dhr?ta, Dhr?ta's son was Durmada, and Durmada's son was Praceta, who had one hundred sons.
SB 9.23.16: The Pracetas [the sons of Praceta] occupied the northern side of India, which was devoid of Vedic civilization, and became kings there. Yayati's second son was Turvasu. The son of Turvasu was Vahni; the son of Vahni, Bharga; the son of Bharga, Bhanuman.
SB 9.23.17: The son of Bhanuman was Tribhanu, and his son was the magnanimous Karandhama. Karandhama's son was Maruta, who had no sons and who therefore adopted a son of the Puru dynasty [Maharaja Dus?manta] as his own.
SB 9.23.18-19: Maharaja Dus?manta, desiring to occupy the throne, returned to his original dynasty [the Puru dynasty], even though he had accepted Maruta as his father. O Maharaja Pariks?it, let me now describe the dynasty of Yadu, the eldest son of Maharaja Yayati. This description is supremely pious, and it vanquishes the reactions of sinful activities in human society. Simply by hearing this description, one is freed from all sinful reactions.
SB 9.23.20-21: The Supreme Personality of Godhead, Kr?s?n?a, the Supersoul in the hearts of all living entities, descended in His original form as a human being in the dynasty or family of Yadu. Yadu had four sons, named Sahasrajit, Kros?t?a, Nala and Ripu. Of these four, the eldest, Sahasrajit, had a son named Satajit, who had three sons, named Mahahaya, Ren?uhaya and Haihaya.
SB 9.23.22: The son of Haihaya was Dharma, and the son of Dharma was Netra, the father of Kunti. From Kunti came a son named Sohaji, from Sohaji came Mahis?man, and from Mahis?man, Bhadrasenaka.
SB 9.23.23: The sons of Bhadrasena were known as Durmada and Dhanaka. Dhanaka was the father of Kr?tavirya and also of Kr?tagni, Kr?tavarma and Kr?tauja.
SB 9.23.24: The son of Kr?tavirya was Arjuna. He [Kartaviryarjuna] became the emperor of the entire world, consisting of seven islands, and received mystic power from Dattatreya, the incarnation of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Thus he obtained the mystic perfections known as asta-siddhi.
SB 9.23.25: No other king in this world could equal Kartaviryarjuna in sacrifices, charity, austerity, mystic power, education, strength or mercy.
SB 9.23.26: For eighty-five thousand years, Kartaviryarjuna continuously enjoyed material opulences with full bodily strength and unimpaired memory. In other words, he enjoyed inexhaustible material opulences with his six senses.
SB 9.23.27: Of the one thousand sons of Kartaviryarjuna, only five remained alive after the fight with Parasurama. Their names were Jayadhvaja, Surasena, Vr?s?abha, Madhu and Urjita.
SB 9.23.28: Jayadhvaja had a son named Talajangha, who had one hundred sons. All the ks?atriyas in that dynasty, known as Talajangha, were annihilated by the great power received by Maharaja Sagara from Aurva R?s?i.
SB 9.23.29: Of the sons of Talajangha, Vitihotra was the eldest. The son of Vitihotra named Madhu had a celebrated son named Vr?s?n?i. Madhu had one hundred sons, of whom Vr?s?n?i was the eldest. The dynasties known as Yadava, Madhava and Vr?s?n?i had their origin from Yadu, Madhu and Vr?s?n?i.
SB 9.23.30-31: O Maharaja Pariks?it, because Yadu, Madhu and Vr?s?n?i each inaugurated a dynasty, their dynasties are known as Yadava, Madhava and Vr?s?n?i. The son of Yadu named Kros?t?a had a son named Vr?jinavan. The son of Vr?jinavan was Svahita; the son of Svahita, Vis?adgu; the son of Vis?adgu, Citraratha; and the son of Citraratha, Sasabindu. The greatly fortunate Sasabindu, who was a great mystic, possessed fourteen opulences and was the owner of fourteen great jewels. Thus he became the emperor of the world.
SB 9.23.32: The famous Sasabindu had ten thousand wives, and by each he begot a lakh of sons. Therefore the number of his sons was ten thousand lakhs.
SB 9.23.33: Among these many sons, six were the foremost, such as Pr?thusrava and Pr?thukirti. The son of Pr?thusrava was known as Dharma, and his son was known as Usana. Usana was the performer of one hundred horse sacrifices.
SB 9.23.34: The son of Usana was Rucaka, who had five sons ' Purujit, Rukma, Rukmes?u, Pr?thu and Jyamagha. Please hear of these sons from me.
SB 9.23.35-36: Jyamagha had no sons, but because he was fearful of his wife, Saibya, he could not accept another wife. Jyamagha once took from the house of some royal enemy a girl who was a prostitute, but upon seeing her Saibya was very angry and said to her husband, "My husband, you cheater, who is this girl sitting upon my seat on the chariot?" Jyamagha then replied, "This girl will be your daughter-in-law." Upon hearing these joking words, Saibya smilingly replied.
SB 9.23.37: Saibya said, "I am sterile and have no co-wife. How can this girl be my daughter-in-law? Please tell me." Jyamagha replied, "My dear Queen, I shall see that you indeed have a son and that this girl will be your daughter-in-law."
SB 9.23.38: Long, long ago, Jyamagha had satisfied the demigods and Pitas by worshiping them. Now, by their mercy, Jyamagha's words came true. Although Saibya was barren, by the grace of the demigods she became pregnant and in due course of time gave birth to a child named Vidarbha. Before the child's birth, the girl had been accepted as a daughter-in-law, and therefore Vidarbha actually married her when he grew up.
SB 9.24.1: Sukadeva Gosvami said: By the womb of the girl brought by his father, Vidarbha begot three sons, named Kusa, Kratha and Romapada. Romapada was the favorite in the dynasty of Vidarbha.
SB 9.24.2: The son of Romapada was Babhru, from whom there came a son named Kr?ti. The son of Kr?ti was Usika, and the son of Usika was Cedi. From Cedi was born the king known as Caidya and others.
SB 9.24.3-4: The son of Kratha was Kunti; the son of Kunti, Vr?s?n?i; the son of Vr?s?n?i, Nirvr?ti; and the son of Nirvr?ti, Dasarha. From Dasarha came Vyoma; from Vyoma came Jimuta; from Jimuta, Vikr?ti; from Vikr?ti, Bhimaratha; from Bhimaratha, Navaratha; and from Navaratha, Dasaratha.
SB 9.24.5: From Dasaratha came a son named Sakuni and from Sakuni a son named Karambhi. The son of Karambhi was Devarata, and his son was Devaks?atra. The son of Devaks?atra was Madhu, and his son was Kuruvasa, from whom there came a son named Anu.
SB 9.24.6-8: The son of Anu was Puruhotra, the son of Puruhotra was Ayu, and the son of Ayu was Satvata. O great Aryan King, Satvata had seven sons, named Bhajamana, Bhaji, Divya, Vr?s?n?i, Devavr?dha, Andhaka and Mahabhoja. From Bhajamana by one wife came three sons ' Nimloci, Kinkan?a and Dhr?s?t?i. And from his other wife came three other sons ' Satajit, Sahasrajit and Ayutajit.
SB 9.24.9: The son of Devavr?dha was Babhru. Concerning Devavr?dha and Babhru there are two famous songs of prayer, which were sung by our predecessors and which we have heard from a distance. Even now I hear the same prayers about their qualities [because that which was heard before is still sung continuously].
SB 9.24.10-11: "It has been decided that among human beings Babhru is the best and that Devavr?dha is equal to the demigods. Because of the association of Babhru and Devavr?dha, all of their descendants, numbering 14,065, achieved liberation." In the dynasty of King Mahabhoja, who was exceedingly religious, there appeared the Bhoja kings.
SB 9.24.12: O King, Maharaja Pariks?it, who can suppress your enemies, the sons of Vr?s?n?i were Sumitra and Yudhajit. From Yudhajit came Sini and Anamitra, and from Anamitra came a son named Nighna.
SB 9.24.13: The two sons of Nighna were Satrajita and Prasena. Another son of Anamitra was another Sini, and his son was Satyaka.
SB 9.24.14: The son of Satyaka was Yuyudhana, whose son was Jaya. From Jaya came a son named Kun?i and from Kun?i a son named Yugandhara. Another son of Anamitra was Vr?s?n?i.
SB 9.24.15: From Vr?s?n?i came the sons named Svaphalka and Citraratha. From Svaphalka by his wife Gandini came Akrura. Akrura was the eldest, but there were twelve other sons, all of whom were most celebrated.
SB 9.24.16-18: The names of these twelve were Asanga, Sarameya, Mr?dura, Mr?duvit, Giri, Dharmavr?ddha, Sukarma, Ks?etropeks?a, Arimardana, Satrughna, Gandhamada and Pratibahu. These brothers also had a sister named Sucara. From Akrura came two sons, named Devavan and Upadeva. Citraratha had many sons, headed by Pr?thu and Viduratha, all of whom were known as belonging to the dynasty of Vr?s?n?i.
SB 9.24.19: Kukura, Bhajamana, Suci and Kambalabarhis?a were the four sons of Andhaka. The son of Kukura was Vahni, and his son was Viloma.
SB 9.24.20: The son of Viloma was Kapotaroma, and his son was Anu, whose friend was Tumburu. From Anu came Andhaka; from Andhaka, Dundubhi; and from Dundubhi, Avidyota. From Avidyota came a son named Punarvasu.
SB 9.24.21-23: Punarvasu had a son and a daughter, named Ahuka and Ahuki respectively, and Ahuka had two sons, named Devaka and Ugrasena. Devaka had four sons, named Devavan, Upadeva, Sudeva and Devavardhana, and he also had seven daughters, named Santideva, Upadeva, Srideva, Devaraks?ita, Sahadeva, Devaki and Dhr?tadeva. Dhr?tadeva was the eldest. Vasudeva, the father of Kr?s?n?a, married all these sisters.
SB 9.24.24: Kam'sa, Sunama, Nyagrodha, Kanka, Sanku, Suhu, Ras?t?rapala, Dhr?s?t?i and Tus?t?iman were the sons of Ugrasena.
SB 9.24.25: Kam'sa, Kam'savati, Kanka, Surabhu and Ras?t?rapalika were the daughters of Ugrasena. They became the wives of Vasudeva's younger brothers.
SB 9.24.26: The son of Citraratha was Viduratha, the son of Viduratha was Sura, and his son was Bhajamana. The son of Bhajamana was Sini, the son of Sini was Bhoja, and the son of Bhoja was Hr?dika.
SB 9.24.27: The three sons of Hr?dika were Devamid?ha, Satadhanu and Kr?tavarma. The son of Devamid?ha was Sura, whose wife was named Maris?a.
SB 9.24.28-31: Through Maris?a, King Sura begot Vasudeva, Devabhaga, Devasrava, Anaka, Sr?jaya, Syamaka, Kanka, Samika, Vatsaka and Vr?ka. These ten sons were spotlessly pious personalities. When Vasudeva was born, the demigods from the heavenly kingdom sounded kettledrums. Therefore Vasudeva, who provided the proper place for the appearance of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Kr?s?n?a, was also known as Anakadundubhi. The five daughters of King Sura, named Pr?tha, Srutadeva, Srutakirti, Srutasrava and Rajadhidevi, were Vasudeva's sisters. Sura gave Pr?tha to his friend Kunti, who had no issue, and therefore another name of Pr?tha was Kunti.
SB 9.24.32: Once when Durvasa was a guest at the house of Pr?tha's father, Kunti, Pr?tha satisfied Durvasa by rendering service. Therefore she received a mystic power by which she could call any demigod. To examine the potency of this mystic power, the pious Kunti immediately called for the sun-god.
SB 9.24.33: As soon as Kunti called for the demigod of the sun, he immediately appeared before her, and she was very much surprised. She told the sun-god, "I was simply examining the effectiveness of this mystic power. I am sorry I have called you unnecessarily. Please return and excuse me."
SB 9.24.34: The sun-god said: O beautiful Pr?tha, your meeting with the demigods cannot be fruitless. Therefore, let me place my seed in your womb so that you may bear a son. I shall arrange to keep your virginity intact, since you are still an unmarried girl.
SB 9.24.35: After saying this, the sun-god discharged his semen into the womb of Pr?tha and then returned to the celestial kingdom. Immediately thereafter, from Kunti a child was born, who was like a second sun-god.
SB 9.24.36: Because Kunti feared people's criticisms, with great difficulty she had to give up her affection for her child. Unwillingly, she packed the child in a basket and let it float down the waters of the river. O Maharaja Pariks?it, your great-grandfather the pious and chivalrous King Pan?d?u later married Kunti.
SB 9.24.37: Vr?ddhasarma, the King of Karus?a, married Kunti's sister Srutadeva, and from her womb Dantavakra was born. Having been cursed by the sages headed by Sanaka, Dantavakra had formerly been born as the son of Diti named Hiran?yaks?a.
SB 9.24.38: King Dhr?s?t?aketu, the King of Kekaya, married Srutakirti, another sister of Kunti's. Srutakirti had five sons, headed by Santardana.
SB 9.24.39: Through the womb of Rajadhidevi, another sister of Kunti's, Jayasena begot two sons, named Vinda and Anuvinda. Similarly, the king of the Cedi state married Srutasrava. This king's name was Damaghos?a.
SB 9.24.40: The son of Srutasrava was Sisupala, whose birth has already been described [in the Seventh Canto of Srimad-Bhagavatam]. Vasudeva's brother named Devabhaga had two sons born of his wife, Kam'sa. These two sons were Citraketu and Br?hadbala.
SB 9.24.41: Vasudeva's brother named Devasrava married Kam'savati, by whom he begot two sons, named Suvira and Is?uman. Kanka, by his wife Kanka, begot three sons, named Baka, Satyajit and Purujit.
SB 9.24.42: King Sr?jaya, by his wife, Ras?t?rapalika, begot sons headed by Vr?s?a and Durmars?an?a. King Syamaka, by his wife, Surabhumi, begot two sons, named Harikesa and Hiran?yaks?a.
SB 9.24.43: Thereafter, King Vatsaka, by the womb of his wife, Misrakesi, who was an Apsara, begot sons headed by Vr?ka. Vr?ka, by his wife, Durvaks?i, begot Taks?a, Pus?kara, Sala and so on.
SB 9.24.44: From Samika, by the womb of his wife, Sudamani, came Sumitra, Arjunapala and other sons. King Anaka, by his wife, Karn?ika, begot two sons, namely R?tadhama and Jaya.
SB 9.24.45: Devaki, Pauravi, Rohin?i, Bhadra, Madira, Rocana, Ila and others were all wives of Anakadundubhi [Vasudeva]. Among them all, Devaki was the chief.
SB 9.24.46: Vasudeva, by the womb of his wife Rohin?i, begot sons such as Bala, Gada, Saran?a, Durmada, Vipula, Dhruva, Kr?ta and others.
SB 9.24.47-48: From the womb of Pauravi came twelve sons, including Bhuta, Subhadra, Bhadrabahu, Durmada and Bhadra. Nanda, Upananda, Kr?taka, Sura and others were born from the womb of Madira. Bhadra [Kausalya] gave birth to only one son, named Kesi.
SB 9.24.49: Vasudeva, by another of his wives, whose name was Rocana, begot Hasta, Hemangada and other sons. And by his wife named Ila he begot sons headed by Uruvalka, all of whom were chief personalities in the dynasty of Yadu.
SB 9.24.50: From the womb of Dhr?tadeva, one of the wives of Anakadundubhi [Vasudeva], came a son named Vipr?s?t?ha. The sons of Santideva, another wife of Vasudeva, were Prasama, Prasita and others.
SB 9.24.51: Vasudeva also had a wife named Upadeva, from whom came ten sons, headed by Rajanya, Kalpa and Vars?a. From Srideva, another wife, came six sons, such as Vasu, Ham'sa and Suvam'sa.
SB 9.24.52: By the semen of Vasudeva in the womb of Devaraks?ita, nine sons were born, headed by Gada. Vasudeva, who was religion personified, also had a wife named Sahadeva, by whose womb he begot eight sons, headed by Sruta and Pravara.
SB 9.24.53-55: The eight sons born of Sahadeva such as Pravara and Sruta, were exact incarnations of the eight Vasus in the heavenly planets. Vasudeva also begot eight highly qualified sons through the womb of Devaki. These included Kirtiman, Sus?en?a, Bhadrasena, R?ju, Sammardana, Bhadra and Sankars?an?a, the controller and serpent incarnation. The eighth son was the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself ' Kr?s?n?a. The highly fortunate Subhadra, the one daughter, was your grandmother.
SB 9.24.56: Whenever the principles of religion deteriorate and the principles of irreligion increase, the supreme controller, the Personality of Godhead Sri Hari, appears by His own will.
SB 9.24.57: O King, Maharaja Pariks?it, but for the Lord's personal desire, there is no cause for His appearance, disappearance or activities. As the Supersoul, He knows everything. Consequently there is no cause that affects Him, not even the results of fruitive activities.
SB 9.24.58: The Supreme Personality of Godhead acts through His material energy in the creation, maintenance and annihilation of this cosmic manifestation just to deliver the living entity by His compassion and stop the living entity's birth, death and duration of materialistic life. Thus He enables the living being to return home, back to Godhead.
SB 9.24.59: Although the demons who take possession of the government are dressed like men of government, they do not know the duty of the government. Consequently, by the arrangement of God, such demons, who possess great military strength, fight with one another, and thus the great burden of demons on the surface of the earth is reduced. The demons increase their military power by the will of the Supreme, so that their numbers will be diminished and the devotees will have a chance to advance in Kr?s?n?a consciousness.
SB 9.24.60: The Supreme Personality of Godhead, Kr?s?n?a, with the cooperation of Sankars?an?a, Balarama, performed activities beyond the mental comprehension of even such personalities as Lord Brahma and Lord Siva. [For instance, Kr?s?n?a arranged the Battle of Kuruks?etra to kill many demons for the relief of the entire world.]
SB 9.24.61: To show causeless mercy to the devotees who would take birth in the future in this age of Kali, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Kr?s?n?a, acted in such a way that simply by remembering Him one will be freed from all the lamentation and unhappiness of material existence. [In other words, He acted so that all future devotees, by accepting the instructions of Kr?s?n?a consciousness stated in Bhagavad-gita, could be relieved from the pangs of material existence.]
SB 9.24.62: Simply by receiving the glories of the Lord through purified transcendental ears, the devotees of the Lord are immediately freed from strong material desires and engagement in fruitive activities.
SB 9.24.63-64: Assisted by the descendants of Bhoja, Vr?s?n?i, Andhaka, Madhu, Surasena, Dasarha, Kuru, Sr?jaya and Pan?d?u, Lord Kr?s?n?a performed various activities. By His pleasing smiles, His affectionate behavior, His instructions and His uncommon pastimes like raising Govardhana Hill, the Lord, appearing in His transcendental body, pleased all of human society.
SB 9.24.65: Kr?s?n?a's face is decorated with ornaments, such as earrings resembling sharks. His ears are beautiful, His cheeks brilliant, and His smiling attractive to everyone. Whoever sees Lord Kr?s?n?a sees a festival. His face and body are fully satisfying for everyone to see, but the devotees are angry at the creator for the disturbance caused by the momentary blinking of their eyes.
SB 9.24.66: The Supreme Personality of Godhead, Sri Kr?s?n?a, known as lila-purus?ottama, appeared as the son of Vasudeva but immediately left His father's home and went to Vr?ndavana to expand His loving relationship with His confidential devotees. In Vr?ndavana the Lord killed many demons, and afterwards He returned to Dvaraka, where according to Vedic principles He married many wives who were the best of women, begot through them hundreds of sons, and performed sacrifices for His own worship to establish the principles of householder life.
SB 9.24.67: Thereafter, Lord Sri Kr?s?n?a created a misunderstanding between family members just to diminish the burden of the world. Simply by His glance, He annihilated all the demoniac kings on the Battlefield of Kuruks?etra and declared victory for Arjuna. Finally, He instructed Uddhava about transcendental life and devotion and then returned to His abode in His original form.[/quote]
Source: https://srimadbhagavatam.com/
Lalitha
That's such a morbid story. At any rate, it answers my question - Barbarik and Anjanparva are not one and the same, since the latter fought and died on the Pandava side.
And no, I don't like Barbarik from what you wrote - not only should he have defaulted to the Pandava side because they were righteous, but also because they were his family (for this discussion, please don't say the Kauravas were also his family)
And even if I did, Krishna comes out as so evil - demanding the head of the bravest kshatriya. Where did that come from? Sounds as twisted as the tale of Rama asking for Sita's severed hand or ears. 🤢