Your opinion on Incest - Page 3

Originally posted by: Kal El

What consenting adults do in their bedroom/private lives is none of my business. We must also consider that the very definition of incest varies among cultures. Cousin marriages are normal in some and abhorred in others for example. In some cultures marriage within the same tribe or clan maybe considered incest. Even here it sometimes depends on who is considered part of the tribe and who isn't. In other cultures it is a matter of caste and whether or not the culture is matrilineal or patrilineal. Often an uncle/niece or aunt/nephew relationship would be allowed (even encouraged) while the same is considered immoral in other cultures. Back in the 19th century UK was still fighting over whether it is incest for a man to marry his brother's widow or for a man to marry his deceased wife's sister.

Frankly I am not bothered as much by consenting adults engaging in incest as much as I am concerned about the offspring since inbreeding has a scientific link to increased frequency of congenital defects. This is of course a problem with heterosexual incest. The homosexual variety is quite free from this concern. I am not entirely sure if the psychological issues wouldn't be bad (for the child that is).

I don't like how incest is often punished by prison sentences. I mean there are far more serious crimes that deserve that kind of attention and money/resources than some harmless adults engaging in 'kinky' behaviour in their bedrooms.

I think the medical issues will eventually be solved and some day we will be able to detect and correct congenital issues during the pregnancy.

Well said. 👏 Frankly speaking, if incest does not cause harm (to anyone), then let's "live and let live". No one really cares what others does behind closed doors. 😉

all indians are my brothers and sisters

Originally posted by: PhoeniXof_Hades

Being a taboo in the past does not equate to being morally repugnant. Women, too, were not allowed to get out of their house, or do anything they wish; all their rights were suppressed by the men, and any women attempting to change these old, traditional systems were considered transgressor, and was considered a s a 'taboo' for a women to even do anything without her husband's/father's permission. Of course, just because feminism was tabooed in the past doesn't mean it is still tabooed [in this present society] (yeah, on many cultures/societies it still is, but that doesn't mean it is amoral for a women to fight for her and women rights). Keeping and torturing slaves, too, was seen as a morally righteous deed, (and hence not tabooed) but of course we know it isn't.

😆😆Feminism has nothing to do with this topic whatsoever, Trace back history, Women had the rights(I know hard to swallow😉), they either chose not to enforce it or were taken away by some interpretation, You had Queens ruling countries, empires, half the world even before this so-called Feminist movement. I am sorry even educated women of today's feminist generation hide behind the pillow of Husband/Father's disapproval, that is plain cowardice.

But traceback any culture,you will find homosexuality and Incest was morally repugnant and a taboo,read any historical account, any of those incedents have been marked with disapproval by the society

Incest had been prevalent in many cultures, and hence not tabooed in their way of life; so will you be supporting incest, then, saying it wasn't a "taboo" in the past? If anything, incest was way less tabooed in the past, than it is now.

Not really so. Science doesn't work that way. Yes, people does deviate a scientific theory (it no longer is remaining science when they deviate it and add their own agendas to it, like the NAARTH does) to fill their needs, but that does not mean that the science is what is being moulded to fit anyones POV.

Originally posted by: chal_phek_mat

If you think what happens between consenting adults is their business then Homsexuality/incest should be acceptable facts in life.

If you tend to apply moral clauses to things then incest and homosexuality have been taboo under centuries of morals and both should be out of bounds

Cant play fast and loose with morals and principles without sounding hypocritic😉

Science and researches can be moulded to justify either POV

Now I am not trying to offer semantic arguments here. I personally stick by "two consenting adults, their private business".

The application of moral causes also depends on the moral principles a person subscribes too. Many people who hold homosexuality acceptable, and incest unacceptable define incestuous and non incestuous relationships under different moral concepts.

Family relationships are considered to be platonic and more emotion based. Romantic relationships are physical and intimacy based. The two are considered mutually exclusive. They do not, cannot and should not overlap as it is morally wrong to cause such overlap. Hence as long as a person finds romantic liaison with a non family member it is ok. However, homosexual or heterosexual relationships that are incestuous are wrong.This makes sense and is not exactly hypocritical, because it morally defines relationships into two separate groups of familial and romantic.

The problem really stems in justifying why relationships should be exclusive. We accept that friendship can blur lines between platonic and sexual - then why not other relationships.

For me it causes no harm, so their choice.

Another scenario is that of close relatives who were separated at birth and met only as adults. In some cases, when they first meet, they develop sexual attraction towards each other and go ahead with a sexual relationship. There's been quite a few media sensations about this.

The thing is, children who grow up together, or at least those who spend the early critical stage of their lives together, become desensitized to sexual attraction towards each other (Westermarck effect). The same is not necessarily true of close relatives who only meet as adults.

Because they met only as adults, their perspective of each other would be very different from regular siblings or parent-children who have known each other all their life. They probably feel like strangers who met and fell in love. The attraction may be due to the inherent similarities in each other (obviously due to the genetics).

Interesting situation I'd say.

Post *edited* out, because I do not wish to continue this discussion any further, as the actual subject of the thread (incest) is no longer in focus, and as usual with every debated topics, Homosexuality has come into play; I seriously do not wish to engage into another debate on homosexuality, as I do not think the debate of homosexuality ever comes to an end, and even if it does, it doesn't end in any impressive way. Besides, I do not think that fighting homophobia in the net is going to solve the world problems. Others go ahead, give your views, and mock me as much as you would like. 👍🏼

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510016,00.html

The shocking case of Austrian Josef Fritzl, found guilty this week of holding his daughter captive for 24 years and fathering her seven children, has focused new attention on incest — which is a crime in itself in Austria even if the acts are consensual. But in the Fritzl case it was in connection with rape, homicide and other charges that led to a sentence of life in a secure psychiatric ward.

Laws exempting parents, grandparents, brothers and sisters from prosecution for incestuous acts if they are not forced upon adult family members are decades old in France, Spain and Portugal.

Currently all forms of incest in Romania are punishable by up to seven years in prison. But Romania's Justice Ministry suggests the new legislation would move the country — which joined the European Union two years ago — closer legally to some other EU members.

"Not everything that is immoral has to be illegal," said Justice Ministry legal expert Valerian Cioclei. "We cannot help these people by turning them into criminals and punishing them."

"If brothers and sisters want to have fun, why should they be imprisoned? It is nobody's business what I do in my bedroom," Ionut Breazu of Cluj told the Associated Press.

I think cases of incest are rarer than HS, but there is no similarity because many people who are homosexual are naturally that way while I am not sure if there is anything like people who are bound to commit incest. It's the choice of both people in this case.
Also, like many have said, it depends a lot on cultures, since in some there are marriage of cousins allowed.
I personally (only my own opinion) find it disturbing when I hear cases of father-daughter or bro-sis marriage, although it's none of my business. So my view is it's different from being homosexual (the couple does not have blood relations), so I do not approve of it and think it should be illegal YET I think a punishment like death is too harsh, why don't rapists get death sentence( these crimes are so much more heinous in my opinion)
But it happens, and not always you come know.....and when it said are you going to support or not...in 99% of cases no one comes to know..(although incest cases are extremely rare)

Originally posted by: Believe

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510016,00.html

The shocking case of Austrian Josef Fritzl, found guilty this week of holding his daughter captive for 24 years and fathering her seven children, has focused new attention on incest ' which is a crime in itself in Austria even if the acts are consensual. But in the Fritzl case it was in connection with rape, homicide and other charges that led to a sentence of life in a secure psychiatric ward.

This is actually a crime...cos helding her captive is rape and this is sick🤢

I for one will NEVER support incest. One of my ex-close friends was going out with this guy from Pakistan who was her cousin and the amount of debates we had on it was unbelievable! I'd argue that it's just not natural and WRONG!! Strangely though, her own 2 parents were first cousins! and guess what, due to that she's had problems since childhood. She has to visit the hospital atleast once a month and at the moment she has to choose whether or not she wants to get an operation done on her eyes. It's things like these which make me hate the word incest. Why should their kids have to suffer for their parents choices? Yes it's just a small % but still quite a significant one..