Your opinion on Incest

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Posted: 16 years ago
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After reading the replies in the Homesexuality Debate started by Labib, it seemed to me that most people don't have a problem with homosexuals and are accepting of them in general. It's agreed between a lot of members that homosexuality is something that someone is born with, and cannot be helped.

So I wanted to know all of you debaters' opinion on incest. Isn't incest also something someone is born with? A person suddenly doesn't create "that kind of feeling" for a member of their family. But incest is illegal while homosexuality isn't. So in the context that people can't help how they're born with certain feelings, how is incest wrong if homosexuality isn't?
(Please don't take my questions in the wrong way.😳 I'm merely curious about your opinions on this subject, and don't mean to diss anyone's beliefs.)

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Nice topic Lalitha, and if I may say another controversial one. Don't think I will be able to give much time on this thread, though, seeing that I am extremely busy on the other thread.

I haven't come across any solid scientific theory that classes incest as a natural tendency (contrary to homosexuality, which is classed as a natural tendency by almost all authentic psychological departments). Correct me if I'm being wrong in any way, aren't kids born out of siblings or very close relatives more prone to be infected with diseases? I'm not quite sure, and since I haven't done much studies on this subject (as this doesn't seem to be as controversial and as a throbbing issue like homosexuality, or abortion is), I can't say it for sure, but as much as I have come across, I heard that child[ren] born put of very close relatives have biological problems; here is one short link from Wikipedia on that matter. So if they are a heterosexual couple, they cannot have kids, and always have protected sex.

Also there are parents who sexually abuses their child, and that must be prohibited.

While incest might also be a natural tendency, and something a person is born with (i.e. not a choice), it must be a minority who are born like that, or grow up like that.

Personally, I am on a fence for supporting incest. While I believe in the "Live and Let live" and "Only God will judge me" argument, I cannot support incest if it involves people of opposite sex (or at least I cannot support them having babies).

Let's see how others react to it. I don't think this topic is going to end up nicely. DOn't know if it is applicable for IF either, 'cause we have 13 years kids, too.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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If I m not mistaken HS & Incest both R illegal in many countries

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: angie.4u

If I m not mistaken HS & Incest both R illegal in many countries



I'm not quite sure either, but homosexuality still has much support than incest has, at least in the secular countries.

I do not think being sexually attracted towards close relatives is a 'fixed'-state, unlike homosexuality, which cannot be changed. Personally I believe a person who falls for a family member can always get over with his past crushes, and lead his future life staying away from any further sexually explicit connection with his family members. But then again, this is just my belief, and I do not have any right to instill it onto anyone else. Heck, what the hell do I care what others are doing in their bedroom; it's none of my business. But if children born out of siblings are really physically defected, then that is something to worry about.

I am waiting to hear Sarina's response; let's see what has she got to say.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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can any1 tell what relations R included besides immediate relatives?
Kal El thumbnail
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Posted: 16 years ago
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What consenting adults do in their bedroom/private lives is none of my business. We must also consider that the very definition of incest varies among cultures. Cousin marriages are normal in some and abhorred in others for example. In some cultures marriage within the same tribe or clan maybe considered incest. Even here it sometimes depends on who is considered part of the tribe and who isn't. In other cultures it is a matter of caste and whether or not the culture is matrilineal or patrilineal. Often an uncle/niece or aunt/nephew relationship would be allowed (even encouraged) while the same is considered immoral in other cultures. Back in the 19th century UK was still fighting over whether it is incest for a man to marry his brother's widow or for a man to marry his deceased wife's sister.

Frankly I am not bothered as much by consenting adults engaging in incest as much as I am concerned about the offspring since inbreeding has a scientific link to increased frequency of congenital defects. This is of course a problem with heterosexual incest. The homosexual variety is quite free from this concern. I am not entirely sure if the psychological issues wouldn't be bad (for the child that is).

I don't like how incest is often punished by prison sentences. I mean there are far more serious crimes that deserve that kind of attention and money/resources than some harmless adults engaging in 'kinky' behaviour in their bedrooms.

I think the medical issues will eventually be solved and some day we will be able to detect and correct congenital issues during the pregnancy.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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My views on incest are pretty similar to Kal-El.

Personally, the idea of incest to me is disturbing. It probably stems from the way we are brought up to view incest. In all practicality though, I think if two consenting adults wish to engage in a sexual relationship it is their choice. I'm not concerned by it. There is no reason why it should be illegal or immoral.

My only concern is congenital defects. The royals were known to suffer mental ailments and other psychiatric and physical disabilities due to inbreeding. If an incestuous couple does not conceive or can consult with a doctor before conception to reduce such risks then even that is not an issue.

The concept of incest is very relative too. A lot of North Americans feel that relationships with relatives once or twice removed is incestuous. On the other hand many cultures still marry within cousins, including many parts of southern USA. In my own community in Goa/Karnataka many marriages are arranged between first cousins.

I do not think incest can be really evaluated as natural or unnatural. How we perceive incest is a sociopsychological concept. The book 'Cement Garden' deals with the controversial subject of incest. In the book a group of children hide their mother's death to prevent being taken away into the orphanage. They grow up on their own without too many external social influences. When they come of age the brother and sister begin to engage in an incestous relationship - unaware of the norms of society.

Sexual attraction is a natural part of human growth. However, we are socially conditioned to define what such attraction should be.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Those who support & do HS acts, They can support & do these things too!! Lage Raho!!
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Posted: 16 years ago
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As the author of this thread points out, with time, people will start accepting incest, just like they have started to accept homosexuality. Thanks.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kal El

What consenting adults do in their bedroom/private lives is none of my business. We must also consider that the very definition of incest varies among cultures. Cousin marriages are normal in some and abhorred in others for example. In some cultures marriage within the same tribe or clan maybe considered incest. Even here it sometimes depends on who is considered part of the tribe and who isn't. In other cultures it is a matter of caste and whether or not the culture is matrilineal or patrilineal. Often an uncle/niece or aunt/nephew relationship would be allowed (even encouraged) while the same is considered immoral in other cultures. Back in the 19th century UK was still fighting over whether it is incest for a man to marry his brother's widow or for a man to marry his deceased wife's sister.

Frankly I am not bothered as much by consenting adults engaging in incest as much as I am concerned about the offspring since inbreeding has a scientific link to increased frequency of congenital defects. This is of course a problem with heterosexual incest. The homosexual variety is quite free from this concern. I am not entirely sure if the psychological issues wouldn't be bad (for the child that is).

I don't like how incest is often punished by prison sentences. I mean there are far more serious crimes that deserve that kind of attention and money/resources than some harmless adults engaging in 'kinky' behaviour in their bedrooms.

I think the medical issues will eventually be solved and some day we will be able to detect and correct congenital issues during the pregnancy.

very well put indeed !

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