Thendral monday- April 2, 2012 - Page 2

Thanks Vjayam.

Thanks Jayshree for the wonderful update. The main heading you have given and the headings you have given for the three scenes is really beautiful.

Originally posted by: jinju

As pearl said I too liked the way T put her thoughts on divorce, when problem arises in life women are always asked to adjust and compromise in the society. But some men use the D word at the drop of a hat. They use it as a weapon as T told and threaten their spouse to control them. But it was annoying to see her still defending Lav. She should stop caring for her. Sometimes I wish she becomes bit selfish like Sudha. [I mean to stop caring for people like GW and Lav here and carry on with her life] TA proved to be a maanga madayan again today. T solli dhaan ivlo pain koduthrukom pondaattiku nu theriyudhamaam. What did he expect T will rejoice after he asked him to sign the divorce papers? 😡 He does know how much she loves him and how much he means to her. T has not shown even 1% of Lav's arrogance. He is preaching Nitheesh but did not think for even a moment before coming to such a big decision. Edho budhi vandha sari.

Naiveness again...Taken for granted is the problem...
Its actually a character seen in everyone to the close soulmates - The expectations are high on the person who is so close to heart - ultimately they want them to be 0% error free(I dont want to say 100% perfect) and issue is, possessiveness, even a slight mistake would be blown big and same time their mistakes(even the biggest of all) shd be negleted...So I think TA is shown this way...His expectation are too high on T and he wants her to be error free...but same time he wants her to forgive his mistakes too...they ignore everyone else mistakes but not their loved ones...😕...thats the diff between T and T...T is steady, calm and wise in everything...be it love, or in talks or in thinking manner but for TA ellathukume avasaram...eduthom kavuthom type...
If he pours love its just too much...if he hates its too much...somehow this character is seen in more than 50% ppl in real life too, its like they are not bad or plan and take revenge...its just their character...😕
But when he really understood how much he hurt her,the way T put in the words straight and open was too good , the next moment he never thought for a second and apologised but same time he did not carry over the same and so was T, which was quiet natural and that gave the real feel that the apology from TA came from heart and not from mouth or bcos of force from others like he earlier did.

The same point as above here too but in opposite manner...he know lav is a thani thelichu vitta case...no expectations here...I think same like T, TA too has a inner soft corner (a very mild one) for making it possible for him to meet T and she was the starter for their love. I think this is the only point which makes T to support for Lav again and again...But somehow yday T's talks about Lav was only bcos of sympathy from her part and not bcos of any affection towards Lav...she was just seeing lav as a girl who shd not be pushed for divorce I guess..😕 and somehow T supporting this way was sync with her character too.😕

ROFL...last one...atleast hereon he shd stick to it...

Thank you Jaya akka for the superb update and comments.. Superb apt title..🤗

Thanks a lot for the update Vjayam 🤗

Anand ... poor fellow ... how awkward for him that his director has given him only repetitive dialogues and actions ... 😕

So T had spoken against the word 'divorce' from personal hurt and suffering 😭 ... but T ... there is a difference in this scenario ... whereas you were unwilling to let go of your husband and marriage ... Queen Lav 😈 is very much willing to let go of her marriage just to prove that she is right and everyone else is wrong ...

I appreciated T's home truth :

• When we are unhappy with our mother, father, brother or any relative we don't divorce them ... whereas when we have a small misunderstanding with our spouse ... we threaten them with divorce ... these words needs to be considered deeply ... 👏

TA's expression was very apt ... one could see him experiencing the anguish and torture that T had expressed in her words. 🤔

Something to ponder about 😍:

As this situation is similar to T/T when TA had given divorce papers to T ... let's do a little role reverse ... Suppose Lav is TA (stubborn and believing that she is right) and Nit is T (patient and waiting for his wife to believe in him and come back to him) ... then just as T had fought to keep TA , shouldn't Nit fight for his wife to come back to him ... a changed person ...?

@ThendralFan007, Your quote: 'As this situation is similar to T/T when TA had given divorce papers to T ... let's do a little role reverse ... Suppose Lav is TA (stubborn and believing that she is right) and Nit is T (patient and waiting for his wife to believe in him and come back to him) ... then just as T had fought to keep TA , shouldn't Nit fight for his wife to come back to him ... a changed person ...?'What you say is very true. Like Thulasi, Nitish can be proactive also and fight for his wife by being patient and understanding. Nitish knows, Laav is just childish and behaves in a certain way because of the bad influences around her. Suppose if he takes the opportunity to thicken his skin based on the experiences he had with laav and his mom, how would it be? If he tells laav, 'I am not taking personally what you and your mom told because what you both told means nothing to me. Laav! You can take your own time to come back to me. I will be waiting for you.' Does he understand, he can fully ignore whatever GW and Laav said and just press for what he needs as this World always contains jackals which howl at lions for their own reason?

Thanks for the update Vjayam...

😉Thanks for the update jayashree akka...🤗

Originally posted by: maha2us

@ThendralFan007, Your quote: 'As this situation is similar to T/T when TA had given divorce papers to T ... let's do a little role reverse ... Suppose Lav is TA (stubborn and believing that she is right) and Nit is T (patient and waiting for his wife to believe in him and come back to him) ... then just as T had fought to keep TA , shouldn't Nit fight for his wife to come back to him ... a changed person ...?'What you say is very true. Like Thulasi, Nitish can be proactive also and fight for his wife by being patient and understanding. Nitish knows, Laav is just childish and behaves in a certain way because of the bad influences around her. Suppose if he takes the opportunity to thicken his skin based on the experiences he had with laav and his mom, how would it be? If he tells laav, 'I am not taking personally what you and your mom told because what you both told means nothing to me. Laav! You can take your own time to come back to me. I will be waiting for you.' Does he understand, he can fully ignore whatever GW and Laav said and just press for what he needs as this World always contains jackals which howl at lions for their own reason?

But one point Nitish said is true. Laav will find living in the married life, only if she realizes her mistakes and seek forgiveness from him and his parents. She will definitely seek forgiveness the day she realizes her mom had wrongly influenced her. (Just like TA realized how much he wronged Thulasi.) The point is how does Nitish know, this day is never going to come? Has he exhausted all the options by which his wife could be made to realize the reality?

Actually Nitish level to come down this much and having talks to TA is very much equal to what T was doing wrt TA - waiting for him to come down and take her. Nitish has come down to the level of taking Lav back insptite of the mistake being on Lavanya's side. Same time I am not against in Nitish waiting for Lav to change...but waiting in Lav case will not help though. Nitish has to take some drastic decision to save his life and to change Lavanya...As this Lavanya uses her baby as a weapon Nitish shd also use the same baby as a weapon and threaten her to change and live with her and change.
Now the underlying basic fact why TA and Lav cannot be compared in this case - TA went to the level of divorce or spoke all harsh words bcos of his selfless motive,for the devil C and went against T, just bcos she spoke harsh to C. His naiveness, completely trusting someone w/o thinking like a fool resulted him in all these and of coure T knew these and she knew it was not a revenge from TA side. She knows TA did all these by thinking the mistake was on T side and hence she was waiting for TA to come back to her, apologize and take her with him.

But Lavanya's intention and why she parted from Nitish - completely selfish - she helped C just bcos she can have a upper hand in both the families, and money minded intention and wanted to rule like a queen. Nitish too knows this. So in this case TA and Lav mistakes are completely opposite.
TA did mistakes w/o any internal intention like money or any ideas to marry C. He just thought T was at mistake and thinking he is teaching her a lesson he did all these. Working in KP's company was also for T/T sake acc to him( a real loser he was at that time)...and was like I need to work somewhere to get rid of Puvi shop. So his character in blvg everyone pushed him to go against T...bcos it was so true that T also spoke harshly to C. But he had many chances to see the behaviour of C, but again his dumbness made him a failure again. But again the positiveness in T/T was both knew that TA did not even have 0.0001% intention to marry C. This helped them to be together.
But in Lavanya's case it was proved by Lav herself(Nitish overhearing) that she was behind C money and did everythgin in selfish motive, still Nitish wants to give her a chance...but the SQ madam got ego inspite of her mistakes and her surrouding ppl(GW/B) are increasing it. Like TA/Nitish said only if Lav corrects herself and falls at their feet things can move. Nitish expectations are not wrong in this case though from the mistakes what Lav did just for money. He even heard how she bad mouthed GP. Plus GW was straightaway attacking GP when he supported T and Lav endorsed it too when she spoke to C over phone which Nitish heard.
I wonder what will be T/TA reaction if they knew how GW spoke about GP when he supported T and Lav endorsing her. 😕...Will they ever support them??

Shubba, As you said, 'Now the underlying basic fact why TA and Lav cannot be compared in this case' You are very true when you say, based on what we have seen TA has been much more morally superior than his sister. (Do we have to praise Laav just because she by her behavior could make TA seen in a better color?) Still even with his naiveness, trusting of XXX etc. do not mean he could go to the level of divorce. Even if he is morally superior he failed to see his wife's POV and he didn't see how to save the marriage and went to the level of divorce which surely is for no reason. This becomes a blot in his character despite all the good in him. What he spoke to T also was really harsh.