Neeti was victimized?? - Page 2

Originally posted by: kajen_hamesha

i know i mean sometimes expressions are enough and you can say everything with just expressions but at times you do need words to show how you feel :| i understand that in intense scenes you don't talk but she should've said more when she met him at the party or when she was at home with her husband! It felt weird that she said so little.

Originally posted by: MG.Creations

Thank you!

As fans, we all expect too much from their TFs because we want the best for them. And considering how the CVs already gave us such an amazing TF with KSG, we expected a lot more from them. If anything it is the CVs that let us down not Jenny. She did a LOT more than she was asked for.

Yes that is another thing. Keith just wasn't able to emote his feelings as well as Jenny did which is rather a big let down since he had a LOT more dialogues than she did.

Thank you so much. 😳

Originally posted by: kajen_hamesha

I love the post Gurleen! I do agree with a lot of the stuff you said and Jen undoubtedly shined in the TF and it was because of her that I watched it. Honestly, I was disappointed with the storyline because it seemed like they kept promoting a childhood love story and in the end she ended up with her husband which didn't make much sense to me. Also, some parts of the TF were rushed and it would've definitely been better if it was longer because i felt i didn't have an emotional connection with the characters at times, like at the end of the TF i didn't even feel sorry for vivaan when niti left him and chose akash.

I think there was something missing in the plot but i also agree that maybe the character of niti needed a separation from her husband to realise what he meant to her so maybe it was necessary for her to make a choice between her childhood love and her husband and maybe their separation made her realise what her husband meant to her. i guess it also meant she could move on from vivaan and not keep thinking what if i was with vivaan because she has now made her choice and so she got her closure and can now live happily with akash. idk if this makes sense :|

But i have to disagree with what you said about the dialogues. I thought it would've been so much better if they gave her more lines to say because that would've made it easier for us to relate to her and understand what the character was feeling. I felt very detached from niti's character at times because she hardly had anything to say. But yes, all her expressions were perfect and they showed all the emotions, so i believe only Jen would've been able to portray the character of niti so well. At times there was no need for her to say anything because her eyes and her expressions said it all. i still do feel though that there was more scope for the character and they could've explored it in more depth.

Oh and i did like the actor who played Akash, i thought he acted well but Keith disappointed me and the dubbing annoyed me so much at times :| I just couldn't really relate to the character of vivaan :|

Thank you Radhika!

I too watched it only for her. And the fact that so many people were stating this TF to be such a big let down, made me want to watch it even more and perhaps even like it more!

According to me, the storyline was nice but it just wasn't executed properly and that is majorly (in my opinion) due to the fact that it didn't have the same air time as the other TFs. This one was merely 45 mins were as the others were an hour and some. Those extra 15 mins could have done wonders to help make the story better.

That is a good point. I would have liked to see Neeti talking to Vivaan about her decision. Because she didn't verbally say yes to him when he told her to elope. She merely listened and followed. I would have loved to see her actually verbally make her own decision.

Loll, it made perfect sense to me. :) It is after all as she said, you don't realize the importance of someone once they're gone.

I agree with you in Jennifer getting more dialogues. If she had it then we would have definitely been able to get to know her and her thoughts better. But nonetheless, I was able to understand what she was feeling as a character without them. They could have but the one major disadvantage still is the fact they didn't have enough air time.

Akash was good but his character just felt so odd considering he was the only happy and cheery one in a story full of such quiet and reserved people. 😆

That was very nicely put Gurleen ! :) Frankly ,while reading your post, I had a better understanding of the characters than I had while watching the TF and thats because the direction was flawed and the time was too short to develop the characters properly.. For instance, the way you put their childhood emotions for each other in words was never put the same way onscreen ! From their childhood flashbacks, all I gathered was that Vivaan had his whole world wrapped around Niti but did Niti feel the same way for Vivaan and with the same intensity...I dont know !!!! There was too much left for the audience to comprehend..Thats why some of the best books are not able to translate into best movies coz as a reader you are free to imagine, as a viewer you are constrained.. Anyway , the part I agree with is that Jen was great in her role ..with almost no lines and limited little screen time, she conveyed her emotions beautifully, specially in the last scene. As a viewer, I was able to understand the turmoil she was going through because she's a fine actor..Just wish she had more lines :)

Originally posted by: Ameres

Firstly, wonderful post. Great writing, enjoyed reading. :)

I agree it was necessary for Vivaan to come back in her life. As I see it, they both needed a closure to that fateful meeting all those years ago. Especially Neeti needed that to finally let go of her past and move on. Though I also believe that she had moved on but was holding back slightly.

As for the question about her being victimized, well the answer is no. No, she was not the victim in this case. What the members meant was that Akash was the victim in this marriage because Neeti was stuck in her past and never returned his love and care fully. Though personally I feel he wasn't really victimized as such but yes he was being unfairly treated to some extent. He deserved the same care and love from Neeti as he gave. But unfortunately he never got that until Neeti realized her love in the end.

Agree, the TF was not extra ordinary in terms of story and direction but it did offer a good decent watch. And both Jennifer and Ajay did a brilliant job in my opinion. :)

Hehe, thank you. 😳 I was actually worried that my thoughts will come out meddled since I just didn't know how to form them. 😆

It's like how I said. Neeti had moved on but she just didn't realize it. It wasn't fully made aware to her conscious that she had done so.

Okay, because that's what I had thought. I was confused as to how Neeti was being victimized since Akash loved her so much. Thank you for clearing that up with me. 😊

Originally posted by: KaJenYaianSanju

Hey Gurleen,

I loved how you explained her character...even I hadn't thought about this..like you know how she was such a bubbly character as a child but seeing her own brother burn right in front of her would make anyone reserved, right? I can't even begin to imagine such a scenario for myself!! yet even the present Neeti was trying to be happy...she acted quite bubbly while she was messaging her mom's head but yeah, seeing vivaan reminded her of her childhood memories and the pain she had to go through, including losing her own brother!!

and I have always felt and said that unlike vivaan neeti wasn't too busy remembering her past...she seemed quite happy with her husband...may be she had already accepted her destiny...this is where I think the directors could have used the remaining time to show her inner thoughts..but like you said her immediately saying she will accompany aakaah and all that proves she was happy with him and never had been separated from him...that is why she realized his importance even more while she was trying to go with vivaan!!

and yes, Jenny is among the few actresses who can emote only through her eyes, expressions, and body languages...she needs no dialogues...my only complaint is wish the direction and script was made little better and of course, they hadn't eaten away the remaining 30 mins lol

Hey Sanju,

To be honest the thought actually came to me while I was sleeping last night. I was just thinking about how everyone was either complaining about Jennifer not having enough dialogues, or looking so bad (which honestly I couldn't see where they got that from. She looked gorgeous in every single scene!) and for getting repeated story lines. First of all, this story line is not repeated at all! In all her shows, not once did she play a character in where she had an infatuation with her childhood best friend. And she didn't even cheat on her husband. All she did was hang out with her best friend and have a good time. If I met my best friend after 10+ years, I'm gonna want to spend every moment with them as well; not neglect them and shoo them away as if I don't even know them.

We got to see so much of Vivaan and his inner thoughts and feelings. I felt as if the story was being narrated from his point of view. If that was the case, then the directors should have done a better job in presenting that. But since they showed Neeti occasionally thinking back to their childhood, she too could have voiced her thoughts, even if it was just two-three lines.

Exactly. That is why I'm glad that she was chosen for this story. If it had been anyone else, the story would have been a major flop. And yes, who can forget our never-ending complaint against the time restraint. 😆

Originally posted by: blessing-beauty

yeshh Tht we doo :) but KSGz TF is by different PH i.e Conevistaas and Jens one was by spell Bound production :P

If It was cinevistaas They wud have done Justice wid Jens talent 😳 and I agree Its the TF wale who r at fauylt Not Jen coz she did what exactly she was told to do :))

Keith hadd nooo feelings in his voice when he was giving those b hari dialouges 0,0 it was more like he was reading the dialouges :/

Oh, nvm! Sorry for the confusion! Usually when people say CVs the first thing that comes to my mind is Cinvestaas. 😳 In that case, I've never heard of Jennifer's PH and I really have no expectations from them. :P

That is damn true. I just hate it when people blame the actors for not being able to carry out the show/film or whatever. For it is not entirely their fault! Actors are simply there to do what they're told. They're given a script that they read off of. They act the way a director wants them to. The only opportunity they have to make a place in people's hearts is by adding their own unique flavor and style to it. Either way, at least she knows better now for the future. :)

Loll, again it goes back to point of the personal style and flavor. Only a rare few people possess that charm and unfortunately Keith just wasn't one of them. :\

Originally posted by: vaishali-AR

That was very nicely put Gurleen ! :) Frankly ,while reading your post, I had a better understanding of the characters than I had while watching the TF and thats because the direction was flawed and the time was too short to develop the characters properly.. For instance, the way you put their childhood emotions for each other in words was never put the same way onscreen ! From their childhood flashbacks, all I gathered was that Vivaan had his whole world wrapped around Niti but did Niti feel the same way for Vivaan and with the same intensity...I dont know !!!! There was too much left for the audience to comprehend..Thats why some of the best books are not able to translate into best movies coz as a reader you are free to imagine, as a viewer you are constrained.. Anyway , the part I agree with is that Jen was great in her role ..with almost no lines and limited little screen time, she conveyed her emotions beautifully, specially in the last scene. As a viewer, I was able to understand the turmoil she was going through because she's a fine actor..Just wish she had more lines :)

Thank you Vaishali!

Aww, thank you so much! It really helps me to know that I had gotten this inference right! 😆

I had a feeling that not many people were able to understand the story that the TF was trying to convey because they were too busy in looking at all the flaws. Another reason why people couldn't grasp it right is because it is hard for any story to be conveyed visually. With words you can go on and on about their feelings, their inner thoughts and struggles. You can coat it with many adjectives to emphasize the importance of the actions. You can add symbols to magnify to a large scale. But with visuals it is much harder. You can't do all that you are able with words. The quote 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' fits perfectly for the whole TMLS series as everyone will perceive these stories in a different manner. They will take away a different message and a different understanding from it than the other.

That is true. I am beginning to think that this TF was to be conveyed in Vivaan's perspective as he was the one who narrated to us about their childhood and the major incidents. We had absolutely no clue as to how Neeti felt about him as a lover or being the murderer of her brother. Even when he proposed the subject of eloping. He did most of the talking and all she did was listen. And when she ever-so-slightly nodded her head, she took her time. I really wanted to know what she was thinking about at that point and of at night when they were sleeping.

They had lots of opportunities to provide Jennifer with meaningful dialogues that would have made the TF even better. Unfortunately they just didn't use it well.

to defend Keith, I think more than him, dubbing killed the emotions of Vivaan...😕...thank God they didn't dub the little dialogues Jenny had😆

Originally posted by: KaJenYaianSanju

to defend Keith, I think more than him, dubbing killed the emotions of Vivaan...😕...thank God they didn't dub the little dialogues Jenny had😆

@Gurleen: I think many didn't like the story or oculdn't see beyond the flaw because poor direction, execution and so less dialogues for the female lead made them see nothing other than the flaws and I don't even blame them!! the director and the editor weren't smart at all!! and I think except for two people, nobody dared to say Jenny looked bad...lol...in fact, her beauty and presence was the best thing in the TF IMO! If I am glad of anything people have kinda matured enough here to not blame the actors for the story because as an actor, the best you can do is ACT not change the story/script!

Loll, if they had then people would find one more thing to add to the list of complaints. 😆

In my opinion, the directors should have just waited if they were not ready. There are other TFs lined up and one more week of preparation could have done wonders for them! Before I saw the TF, I read the reviews here and one just stood out. It was such a huge disappointment for them in terms of everything! Especially her looks! And then when I saw it I was like, where's the disappointment? Are we watching the same TF here or what? 😆

Me too. When people apply blames, they have to understand that one person isn't solely responsible for it. Everyone who were involved in the particular matter have to share the equal amount of blame for they could have done something to prevent it from happening. And as much as people will like to believe, actors just don't have that type of power and control over their directors and producers. If they had then how would this industry work?