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Posted: 10 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Divya429

@ Rajeet

Read ur points
I disagree wid u in certain Points

First of all Indian court has nothing to do wid wht small screen show
Still if any viewer raise a case.theywill look thru it but may take time to solve the case.
So fr quicker response
There's IBF (Indian broadcasting foundation for it) and do take care of the complaints by the viewers
If they feel it's right
For instance ..zee had to apologise to viewers for showing brutal scns in one of their show
If u complain abt TSM defaming abt Indian culture and promoting dowry system IBF may take action ( u never know)
Hence all shows keep showing a flash in the beginning of each & every show.
So showing disgusting stuffs in Indian TV is def a crime ..but unfortunately many viewers have no idea abt it.

And the matter is not about u watching,me watching or switching it off...its abt sending wrong vibes to many ..including the illiterate,a certain section of people who like to copy each & everything being shown in visual media.such stuffs do influence them.

Reg the actors not allowing to work fr a point of time if they quit,no thts not right ..if they breach sp's contract they may not be able to work with sp for sometime ,but they do can work in other channels.
Look for Gia manek,Gopi bahu.she had quit SNS for some dance show in zee or colours,she was blacklisted by SP as sp never wanted her to participate it.but did the dance show at tht time itself.
I can give u many more ..
Also u mean to say we shud keep diff mindset when it comes to reel & real.y? Evn for this reel show we pay money and subscribe a channel,so what's wrong in raising our voice if we don't get wht we r promised? I don't find it strange at all.

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I didn't meant to keep different mind set, but just saying it is not worth it to spoil our mood, as we have plenty of options, it is not happening for real so it is not affecting the world, and about ppl taking inspiration from TV well they will have to understand what is good and what is bad,

Raising voice is ok, but getting hyper and spoiling mood is not worth it, and I didn't meant court I just said it as a phrase😆, I meant the authority who monitors this should stop this nonsense. I agree that it is sending wrong vibes so some one should ban it na, as I said not every one is same, there r ppl in this world who will still if there is no punishment, we will not but there r that type of disgusting ppl in the world..so if it is a crime there should be some one to stop it, but I am not seeing it, this type of things r going on and on...now everyone knows the general trend of a Indian show...nothing new...everyone show the same thing in different ways...

I am not against protesting but as I said we can't blame them for doing business, if no one stop them saying this is not right then they will keep doing it...
and yes there is IBF and ppl should know about it, incited of taking stress they should complain and move on this will show those morons their place, but unfortunately most of Indian audience like the shits like SSK and SNS and this gives the makers the courage to do all this...

And about the actors I heard if they break contract they have to serve a notice period or something like that..not sure thought u might be right too...

Basically the whole system is as fault...and everything is linked, so we will have to bare this until the system is filled with our generation...

Everything will be solved if TRP is collected internationally...then Shows like TSM and BD would top the chart and SNS and SSK would die...
Edited by rajeet_hossain - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#32
the world runs with money...according to my view and have seen many in real life middle class backgound in india..follow the culture and tradition mainly not only during festive but by heart also..
it may sound odd to hear..more money more respect..eeven the person does wrong many will be afraid to say against a word..aand the person who go against will be supressed and their future filled with problems.
2..fear...if f we raise our voice against we and all our family should pay for future consequences. .sso be quiet..
3: yy should we bother let them show or do wrong..wat is happening we are not affected by it..so don't bother ..u should think of u and ur family not of society...

all the above consequences are gng in india..only few are fighting either through social media and raising their voice directly..

sorry to say this...in many family if one person wants to fight against any fault in society other will say yy ur bothering..uu can't change anything...

these are my views..if their anything wrong I sincerely apologise. ..
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Posted: 10 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: mantuamu

the world runs with money...according to my view and have seen many in real life middle class backgound in india..follow the culture and tradition mainly not only during festive but by heart also..

it may sound odd to hear..more money more respect..eeven the person does wrong many will be afraid to say against a word..aand the person who go against will be supressed and their future filled with problems.
2..fear...if f we raise our voice against we and all our family should pay for future consequences. .sso be quiet..
3: yy should we bother let them show or do wrong..wat is happening we are not affected by it..so don't bother ..u should think of u and ur family not of society...

all the above consequences are gng in india..only few are fighting either through social media and raising their voice directly..

sorry to say this...in many family if one person wants to fight against any fault in society other will say yy ur bothering..uu can't change anything...

these are my views..if their anything wrong I sincerely apologise. ..


exactly that's y makers don't bother...
to them the international viewers r invisible and there r very few Indian viewers who want change
so if majority of ppl wants that shit, they will give it...ignoring the few who wants some good change.
Edited by rajeet_hossain - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: Aisha15



I don't know man. I'm gonna say this show did with their borderline incest jiju-saali marriage. I'm sure Ekta maata must have done it in one of her shows before I was probably even born. In YHM Rinki apparently used to call Mihir bro and then she got married to him.


Jeeju saali is no where incest not even borderline incest

Incest is only in blood relations as far as miles distant cousins but not jeeju saali

Do you know in real life how many jeeju saali have it going on the side?

I have no idea about YHM but bhaiyya bolne se bhai ban nahi jaata you have to feel it mean it

Sabzi wale bhaiyya do kilo aaloo dena he does not become my bhai

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Yes here I too feel that RaMaya is wrong because they were friends and it all got ruined
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Posted: 10 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: Chahanya



Jeeju saali is no where incest not even borderline incest

Incest is only in blood relations as far as miles distant cousins but not jeeju saali

Do you know in real life how many jeeju saali have it going on the side?

I have no idea about YHM but bhaiyya bolne se bhai ban nahi jaata you have to feel it mean it

Sabzi wale bhaiyya do kilo aaloo dena he does not become my bhai

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Yes here I too feel that RaMaya is wrong because they were friends and it all got ruined



One up for SP.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: loveleen12

Come again? I am gonna go kidnap kids for business until then write your response here.


hmm didnt get what you are trying to say here

But kidnapping is a crime but working towards ensuring your company earns profit is not a crime its a job for which people are paid

If creative heads are working towards that towards ensuring SP remains number 1 channel and take some decisions for that i don't see how that is wrong .Its their job for which they are paid

I am working for an MNC and work in order to ensure that my company earns profit gets good business that is what creatives at SP are doing i don't see anything wrong in that and don't understand how that can be compared to kidnapping

Note-I will again say i agree their decision didn't work since they are still not getting the TRP's but if the intent behind their decision was to get more TRP's i see no wrong in that.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: allin4manya

@Sabhayata - I beg to differ on this opinion of yours...There are millions of creative ways to sell entertainment which promotes morality, progressive culture and ethos...

Its a shame that after boasting of a writer's CV with truckloads of experience, all SJ could manage was to come up with a pukeworthy track...Arey if she was constructive enough to just peep in this forum, she would have got atleast 4 readymade scripts from Loveleen, Shikha, Neet, Chahanya which would have been immensely positive and yet would have sold like hot pancakes in the TV industry...

In all honesty, such writers and channels needs a reality check big time that starting now upto 20-30 years down the line, we are their prospective future TRP aunties and uncles and we absolutely hate the trash that dey r trying to remodel and sell it to us...

We want positivity and not sacrifice of love kind of pukish tracks...

No worries, We have proved now that we have signaled our intent for change and it will come soon



i agree i dont like most of the SP's storylines as well even i find them regressive but if these earn them good TRP's and helps them remain in business obviously they will continue with such tracks

Because like i said its a busineess not charity
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ThePirateKing

Sabhyata- I agree with the basic intent of your post. Yes SP and for that matter any channel is in the business to make profit. They are neither obligated to make viewers happy nor are they obligated to change track as per viewer feedback. Profit comes with advertisements and advertisers pay premium only for the shows with high TRPs.

Where SP has gone wrong with this show is that they have thought that one size fits all. If couple swap worked for Swaragini, it will work here as well. Couple swap is nothing new in Indian TV, has happened before and will happen in future, but for that they have to understand the basics.

They have just paired a couple randomly when there was no earlier interaction between them. Hence they are not getting the results. Anyway this show will only remain on air till another show is ready to hit the tube. Frankly not even a re-union of Mantu and Amaya will save this show.


completely agree

like i said their decision has proven to be wrong since their TRP's are even lower now

but my post was not about whether their decision was right or wrong but about the fact that why should SP creatives be blamed for working towards getting more TRP's That is their job and what they are paid for
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Posted: 10 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: Sabhayata


completely agree

like i said their decision has proven to be wrong since their TRP's are even lower now

but my post was not about whether their decision was right or wrong but about the fact that why should SP creatives be blamed for working towards getting more TRP's That is their job and what they are paid for


well we understand it is business but they should also understand the fact that it is sending bad message...they should show something that is entertaining and good, look the show is no more entertaining, I don't mind twist but their business is entertainment na, so now they r seeing that TRP is low so they should change the track...they r not to be blamed for business but we r saying they could of thought of something good...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sabhayata


hmm didnt get what you are trying to say here

But kidnapping is a crime but working towards ensuring your company earns profit is not a crime its a job for which people are paid

If creative heads are working towards that towards ensuring SP remains number 1 channel and take some decisions for that i don't see how that is wrong .Its their job for which they are paid

I am working for an MNC and work in order to ensure that my company earns profit gets good business that is what creatives at SP are doing i don't see anything wrong in that and don't understand how that can be compared to kidnapping

Note-I will again say i agree their decision didn't work since they are still not getting the TRP's but if the intent behind their decision was to get more TRP's i see no wrong in that.


There is a huge morality issue though because people follow these shows and consider the characters as idols. In fact Star Plus every year says at SPA that their characters are role models and examples, but then they show these types of things. Drugging your sister and taking her place in the mandap.
You cannot justify it as business. Kidnappings maybe crime to you, but to someone it is business. Everyone can have different ideologies. But there has to be a boundary. You need to run legal businesses with moral integrity and ethically

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