Natak ?? Really??..

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Posted: 9 years ago

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I still haven't' watched the episode as it of course airs much later here in the UK but I am so heartsick reading the updates and even more so the comments I have read. I seriously don't understand whether the aatmas the CVs (who I believe also write for SSK) write about elsewhere have possessed them for real as the whole ML track has been beyond pathetically executed.

Now coming to Swara- as is well known fact, I have defended her always and in each and every other track without exception but in this one they have genuinely given her a personality transplant and thus that is the Swara I see a lot of disappointed and loyal viewers cribbing about. I am not wishing to engage in a pointless war with anyone. I've made my views on how badly people are nowadays treated if they dare express a respectful opinion on a character on the forum so I better not take over your post on that.

To me - Swara Gadodia and Swara Maheshwari had an essence- she was a pure and untainted soul and sometimes too idealistic and often could be mistaken in how she reacted due to her code BUT she was always genuine and was NOT capable of duplicity. I get her confusion, I defended her a lot in parts of this track and even when she lost it with Sanskaar for playing Kissan I could relate (NEVER to the slap in public but to the anger I mean). However, from what I read after spending a night with Sanskaar and faced with the irrefutable logic he gave her, that he could harm her if he wanted but all he did was explain and showed her concern that SHE herself responded to (apparently) so beautifully, they seriously expect me to like that she says she was pretending and (again hearsay)- she hates him?! . I am afraid I don't know this Swara- this ruins so much of the essence of SwaSan for me it breaks my heart.

I am all for allocating blame to CVs - of course they write the show BUT at the end of the day we as viewers can then only respond to the characters we see. As per the other logic then let us never ever criticise Ragini or even Pari or anyone else for that matter. I don't get why this becomes a topic for war with people assuming you hate Swara if you hate what they have shown her do here?

I LOVE Swara- SwaSan have been my obsession and a huge part of my life for so long- but that to me gives me the right too to express what I DON'T like and this I don't like as it's not the Swara whose heart irrespective of ML KNOWS and TRUSTS and LOVES Sanskaar. I am totally ok that she was traumatised and even the next morning her heart and mind were warring with each other and she had to run- from herself. But what I feel ruined the essence of the scenes we were all so so so excited over is giving her yet one more unreasonable monologue.

I watch for SwaSan mainly and to me the romance wether we like it or not isn't made up of one scene of 10 seconds or even a collection of them. To me, SwaSan were always soul mates and no ML should change that. Here, that essence was very much overtaken by the mindless drama which then leaves us with a Swara I currently find hard to justify or relate to. If that makes me worthy of being branded anything then so be it. I am saying what i FEEL at present.

Sorry for rambling so much.

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Posted: 9 years ago

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why to act then?? , Anyways whole ML track she never trusted him but this natak was not needed ..sanskaaar anyway gave up when she was going away saying I dont want to believe your stories , he didnt try to stop her ..so doesn't make sense .

i think sia had replied u & she was not doing natak .she was genuine in godown but in denial as she can't trust him suddenly & i think wen sanky said abt that not trusting & on oer hand indictaing her attraction 4 him she thot how can she trust a prsn who trie d 2 kill her & now betrayed her by disguising.its like sanky's denial during that maalkin track wen he din't want 2 trust swara but luved her & cudn't resist taking acre of her.

sumtimes CVs r responsible 4 it 2 make inconsistent & 2 clear that why things r done.we know ckts behave as CVs write them & sumtime s 4 drama also but that doesn't luk like that they r doing it 4 drama(i mean we know but it goes wid flow of the story & ckts)but sumtimes they made it clear bcoz of their high level of creativity then it luked that CVs r 2 b blamed.

Hey ..Dont get me wrong ..but as far as I remember ..swara hates natak and jhoot right ..all that bhasan and all ..and she was mad bcos kissan lied to her , broke her trust ..swara is always known for her straight forward character but now she is taking the same route ..Why??

whatever be the cause or situation ..jhoot tho jhoot hain na ..she herself said she did natak ..so that clears up and now she cant screan ..jhoot dhoka and all

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KostinsQueen

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Posted: 9 years ago

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Originally posted by: tiny15
@bold i think it gets changed in the matter of sanky more wen its abt swara not the oder way around.i m seeing this trend from v.start here.
and its cuming from a sanskar fan as i luv sanky more than swara but i'd seen that wenever snaky does anything illogical like he did in maalkin track or kavs track hes protecting his heart, doing hsi duty 2wards kavz & wat not but 4 swara if sum1 blames CVs 4 this inconsistency ppl r mocked & also said swara is doodh peeti bachi then why the same ppl din't say was sanky doodh peeta baccha during those tracks

i always said this 4 both swasan that even tho i never like d behaviour in those tracks of swasan but i cud understand & don't/din't criticize them.
@bold blue thats wat i said but we r mocked.

AB main kya bathavoon yaar ...jab Maine bash kiya sanskaar ko during malkin track, I was labelled as Feminist along with my friends.🤣

But honestly saying , I'm seeing many posts stating that cv's ki galathi now .Then , many supported sanskaar's actions without involving cv's .

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Posted: 9 years ago

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Originally posted by: tiny15
@bold i think it gets changed in the matter of sanky more wen its abt swara not the oder way around.i m seeing this trend from v.start here.
and its cuming from a sanskar fan as i luv sanky more than swara but i'd seen that wenever snaky does anything illogical like he did in maalkin track or kavs track hes protecting his heart, doing hsi duty 2wards kavz & wat not but 4 swara if sum1 blames CVs 4 this inconsistency ppl r mocked & also said swara is doodh peeti bachi then why the same ppl din't say was sanky doodh peeta baccha during those tracks

i always said this 4 both swasan that even tho i never like d behaviour in those tracks of swasan but i cud understand & don't/din't criticize them.
@bold blue thats wat i said but we r mocked.

And it begins!

I never said that for Sanskaar because I did not blame CVs for his characterization flaws and praise him for the intensity with which he adores Swara. During that time, that malkin track, all the posts I wrote were from Swara's POV - I so admired her then and hated his disgusting silence. But over here I am upset that whatever inane things Swara does or says is the CV's fault and tomorrow when she asks Sanskaar's forgiveness, she is being good and asking forgiveness even though she was never at fault. I cannot agree.

I think we should understand that justifying Swara's actions in light of some remote possibility is much different from simply blaming the CVs. Sanskaar was at fault then and those who tried to justify his actions, as you mentioned above, did not blame the CVs. Please do the same here, it is blaming the CVs that gets my goat.

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lucky.m

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Posted: 9 years ago

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Originally posted by: Nynaeve

And it begins!
I never said that for Sanskaar because I did not blame CVs for his characterization flaws and praise him for the intensity with which he adores Swara. During that time, that malkin track, all the posts I wrote were from Swara's POV - I so admired her then and hated his disgusting silence. But over here I am upset that whatever inane things Swara does or says is the CV's fault and tomorrow when she asks Sanskaar's forgiveness, she is being good and asking forgiveness even though she was never at fault. I cannot agree.
I think we should understand that justifying Swara's actions in light of some remote possibility is much different from simply blaming the CVs. Sanskaar was at fault then and those who tried to justify his actions, as you mentioned above, did not blame the CVs. Please do the same here, it is blaming the CVs that gets my goat.

+ 1 nynu ..I think first people should decide on whether they want to credit cv's or characters for right and wrong doings in SR and stick to it ..not changing stances..hope we get to see that one day

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dolly

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Posted: 9 years ago

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Originally posted by: The.Lannister

I do not know what you said in this thread because I did not read it. I read the main post, then reply and then read rest of the posts later. Also, this is not the first post where you or someone else have defended Swara by blaming the CVs. My logic is simple...either credit & blame the CVs for everything Swara does be it right or wrong OR let Swara take the credit & blame for everything she does. You can blame the CVs when they dont give her monologues e.g. But to blame CVs for giving her a monologue now? How can you blame CVs for two opposite things? So either ways they are wrong & Swara is right? And again you assume that CVs gave this dialogue to Swara for the sake of drama? How? When she is clearly speaking her mind how is this for the sake of drama? She is saying so bcoz she believes in that!

Also I am not mocking you. I was directly calling out on the hypocrisy which has come to rule this forum in the form of people who will fight just for the sake of fighting. Even sensible people reach a breaking point where even they will start answering back in the same tone that came their way. So if you find me less sensible now you know who to blame.

sorry i MU. but apart from this thread i never blamed CVs 4 swara's behaviour in this track rather i said i can understand her behaviour.and i'd said this during maalkin & kavs track abt sanky also

@bold its so clear that they wanted 2 get he r lost in jungle & create that cliff drama.we know ckts r written by CVs & they behav elike they were written but thing is they go wid flow of the show & ckst but here its so clear bcoz all wat swara did in godown din't luk like a natak even if shes having that monologue. cudn't u see that contradiction? how can that b natak??

btw i'd also said in my ode r post abt swara's denial like snaky's denial.

@bold blue yes hypocrisy does cum out in this forum & no1 is doodh ka dhula hua. i used 2 silent viistor of this forum wen the show started i only starte d posted wen swasan bcame a couple ofcly.and i'd seen that ppl start defend sanky even if hes clearly shown 2 behave like an ass w.r.t swara but swara's behaviour is hurting sanky even a bit shes mocked.

and yes sensible ppl can also reach a breaking point that they"ll start answering back in same tone.so u want 2 blame me .on one hand u r saying that u din't mock me but on oder hand u r sort of blaming me !!😕if u reach that breaking pt so does oders also wen they constantly see swara mocking post.i never used 2 protest wenever swara is blamed whether i disagreed also but as u said abt breaking pt so seeing her getting blamed even tho shes having ML also made me support her oderwise i always supported sanky more whether i disliked his acts in those tracks.

and plz don't think i m swara fan i m swasan fan & more of sanky fan & tho i can relate 2 both swasan but more 2 sanky.

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lucky.m

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Posted: 9 years ago

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You said it all ..I cant say it better ..that what is disappointing na ..like from when did swara becoe capable of faking her emotions in such a true heartfel genuine manner ..that doesn't go with her or what cv's have been showing us ..I am not talking about swara in ML ..I better not talk about that but this is nothing but ruining of swara at least that stab which I felt when her so much wished and aspired monologue came into picture ..its heart break at that moment

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Posted: 9 years ago

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Originally posted by: lucky.m

why to act then?? , Anyways whole ML track she never trusted him but this natak was not needed ..sanskaaar anyway gave up when she was going away saying I dont want to believe your stories , he didnt try to stop her ..so doesn't make sense .

i think sia had replied u & she was not doing natak .she was genuine in godown but in denial as she can't trust him suddenly & i think wen sanky said abt that not trusting & on oer hand indictaing her attraction 4 him she thot how can she trust a prsn who trie d 2 kill her & now betrayed her by disguising.its like sanky's denial during that maalkin track wen he din't want 2 trust swara but luved her & cudn't resist taking acre of her.

sumtimes CVs r responsible 4 it 2 make inconsistent & 2 clear that why things r done.we know ckts behave as CVs write them & sumtime s 4 drama also but that doesn't luk like that they r doing it 4 drama(i mean we know but it goes wid flow of the story & ckts)but sumtimes they made it clear bcoz of their high level of creativity then it luked that CVs r 2 b blamed.

Hey ..Dont get me wrong ..but as far as I remember ..swara hates natak and jhoot right ..all that bhasan and all ..and she was mad bcos kissan lied to her , broke her trust ..swara is always known for her straight forward character but now she is taking the same route ..Why??

whatever be the cause or situation ..jhoot tho jhoot hain na ..she herself said she did natak ..so that clears up and now she cant screan ..jhoot dhoka and all

what was fake marriage plan which start swasan love story and whose plan was it

she hate lie but sometime still do it for the reason she think is right

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Posted: 9 years ago

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Originally posted by: Nynaeve

And it begins!
I never said that for Sanskaar because I did not blame CVs for his characterization flaws and praise him for the intensity with which he adores Swara. During that time, that malkin track, all the posts I wrote were from Swara's POV - I so admired her then and hated his disgusting silence. But over here I am upset that whatever inane things Swara does or says is the CV's fault and tomorrow when she asks Sanskaar's forgiveness, she is being good and asking forgiveness even though she was never at fault. I cannot agree.
I think we should understand that justifying Swara's actions in light of some remote possibility is much different from simply blaming the CVs. Sanskaar was at fault then and those who tried to justify his actions, as you mentioned above, did not blame the CVs. Please do the same here, it is blaming the CVs that gets my goat.

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Posted: 9 years ago

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Agreed that was disappointing and unexpected but then the sudden nice behavior towards Sanskar smiling at him holding his hands and assuring him itself was fishy so that monologue do make sense. Swara's expression on those particular scene were not genuine so.. Watched episode after vented out my frustration

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