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lucky.m

@lucky.m

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Posted: 9 years ago

#171

Originally posted by: soumi93
@TM see i completely agree wd u abt that particular scene it did break the flavour of swasan in many ways nd i do agree that Swara behaves like personality disorder in the whole MU track.there is nothing remain in dis track that now i am more than happy that this horrible mess is getting over.

but i guess u get where i am hurt i guess.Expressing disgust abt that scene is ok ad welcomed bt tell me whats the point of calling her double-faced selfish money minded opportunist and faking luv fr sanskar.
Srry bt the later part is definitely nt criticism bt clear cut bashing which is nt needed.

@ soumi

I get it totally and tat absolutely not acceptable ..questioning swaras love for sanskaar but did u note none supported that view

Edited by lucky.m - 9 years ago

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Nupur

@Nupur_5

Voyager

Posted: 9 years ago

#172

Okay I was restraining myself to comment Bt now I want to say something! Ofcourse it is my POV & what I feel & think AND people are more than welcome to disagree & differ my opinion Bt in a polite manner!

This thread was made to discuss about Swara's monologue of yesterday epi & in a way discuss about yesterday epi. Lucky made it very clear!

Then from where past came from?

How some people can think that Swara don't love Sanskaar?

Well first of all I want to share my opinion about yesterday epi for what this thread was actually made!

Lucky kudos to you for expressing your view in a polite manner!

I'm also hurt after watching the epi specially that natak word really pained me!

After watching the epi I was so disheartened & then I came here & read others opinions And I was thinking what I felt! I was confused TBH & I watched the epi thrice more time!

Then I felt that Swara was scared & hug Sanskaar out of fear AND that was NOT any natak! And she was feeling safe & I think that unsettled her that how can she feel safe in her supposed murderer's arms!

So she decided to play along & wait to right opportunity to come so that she can run away!

So she decided to do drama BUT was she able to do it?

Well she was trying hard to pretend alright Bt she couldn't help Bt stared him with genuine attraction!

She was switching between trying to pretend & genuinely attracting towards him!

She was trying to do natak Bt was failing to do! Well she did pretend little but not fully! I felt like she rested on Sanskaar's shoulder bcoz she was exhausted and couldn't help but resting her head. And obviously she slept peacefully the whole night and it was clear seeing her sleeping in the morning!

Then she woke up and was shocked to realize that she actually slept the whole night that too peacefully in Sanskaar's arm while she should have awake & how could see sleep whole night in Sanskaar's presence who is her supposed murderer! That thought snapped her out & she remembered her idea of pretending & she do what she decided to do that is escaping from him!

And how I got that she decided to pretend is no one can trust within few minutes! And then there was a point when I was quite sure & that was when she was staring at him while warming herself and I'm sure she was feeling attracted bt she was snapped out to her senses and her mind took over when Sanskaar said I will surely find a way & her reply which made me sure that she decided to pretend bcoz she replied that I'm sure you will find a way! It really sounded like she was thinking that he will find a way to hurt her!

So yes Swara decided to pretend! Bt pretending & trying to pretend are two different things!

She was trying so hard to pretend infront of him BUT she couldn't do it whole time actually most of the time!

This is what I felt after watching the epi!

Bt did I like it that Swara didn't trust Sanskaar?

No! I didn't Bt I can understand that she can't trust him overnight!

And it's not what broke my heart! I actually wouldn't mind if CVs showed us that she had to spend the night with Sanskaar bcoz of weather and she would have noticed his obvious care towards her what she did and then her questioning herself that why didn't he harm her when he could! That would be amazing and specially now that they are ending this track!

Bt no! They had to mess up!

So yes Swara behaved the way she was behaving in this whole ML track!

So Lucky dear this is my POV for what you actually made this post, that particular epi :)

And I'm really feeling sorry that your thread turned into a warzone by some!

Now I want to say something to some SwaSan fans, and you will know who you are:

I didn't like Swara in this ML track! Bas! And I expressed this few times before!

I couldn't relate to her in this track & more than that I couldn't find the Swara I like & adore!

So yes I criticized Swara bt this not mean that I'm a Swara basher or hater!

Bcoz I believe that if we love someone we can point their flaws as well and it's not just Swara, it applies to my love for Sanskaar as well that I can criticize him if he is wrong! Bcoz I love them!

So I criticized Swara in this track!

Bt criticizing & bashing are two different things AND I'm so heartbroken that some fans are bashing Swara!

Some fans criticized Swara in their comments And I understand them & their dissatisfaction bcoz I'm on the same boat!

Bt some fans bashed her so much so that they are questioning her love for Sanskaar!

Like seriously!? Fan-frigging-tastic!!!

I can question Swara & Sanskaar's some actions, thoughts or behaviours BUT NOT THEIR LOVE FOR EACH OTHER! NEVER EVER!

I always feel & believe that Sanskaar love Swara more than Swara love Sanskaar! Yes!

Bt Swara also love Sanskaar very very very much!

And I would dare to say more than anyone in her life with Shomi ofcourse! I believe Swara love Sanskaar & Shomi equally!

And I will borrow from Nyna (Her OS - A Love Like None Other) when she put brilliantly that Swara's love for Sanskaar may not EQUAL to Sanskaar's love for Swara But indeed EQUIVALENT!

And even as I said that I believe Sanskaar love Swara more, Swara's love for Sanskaar is not much less!

Just Unnees-Bees Ki Fadk!

Bt I will never believe that Swara just love Sanskaar from her mind or she loves him bcoz of he is rich, good looking, understanding!

Swara loves Sanskaar from the bottom of her heart!

It is as universal truth as Sanskaar loves Swara!

And I'm really so disheartened that some questioning her love & naming her!

I also didn't like Swara's characterization in this track!

Bt no way I doubt her feelings towards Sanskaar!

And specially I can't overlook her nature and her other good qualities just bcoz of this one particular track!

And I will blame CVs for their worst execution of this track! They really couldn't execute it properly!

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lucky.m

@lucky.m

Rocker

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Posted: 9 years ago

#173

@ viji nynu sumi nimmi

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Cant put it better ..I seriously doubt If people even know the difference b/w what an expression of opinion means and how different are criticism and bashing I am talking about constructive criticism

Just because I dont like trait of my fav character at one point ..its so sad to see how people jump into conclusion that , that particular character is being hated or bashed .

I am so glad on one side seeing sensible posts and replies but at the same time its disheartening to see how a simple thread can be turned into war zone for something which is not even directly related to the post..

But I love you all people but putting across your stand clearly ..Hope at leastt this thread gives a clear cut view of what is bashing and what is expressing a view which may be different from other pov but which can be put across in a right way

Lucky

Edited by lucky.m - 9 years ago

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dolly

@tiny15

Stunner

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Posted: 9 years ago

#174

@lucky thatswat we r saying.no1 said that don't criticize swara but few posts asking 4 her punishment & even questioning her luv 4 sanky & the lang used is so bad that i felt if they were/r really swasan fan or only sanky fan.

u made the post & i think i said that CVs messed that by giving that monologue & few ppl started mocking not just swara but also members indirectly saying all is 2 b blamed on CVs as its abt swara .u can see those posts.

just tell me wen CVs were blamed w.r.t swara??i don't rembr it.

and then few went even ahead questioning swara's luv 4 sanky & saying her 2 b money minded & lang again used is so bad & wen oders reacted on these then its said they r termed as bashers.i think in initial posts nowhere ppl supporting swara or understanding her or analysed difft abt the nite scene said oders as bashers/haters.

and u r saying no1 supported that post abt swara questioning her luv 4 sanky & asking 4 her punishment & 2 suffer her more then do see those posts & likes also below them.

the thing which hurt me most that wen we put our POV then we r bashed saying we r blaming CVs 4 swara & we r saying oders as swara bahsers.u can see the posts & tell where its said who r disagreeing wid swara's behaviour her haters & then more hurt came wen swara is blamed as gold digger & her luv is less than sanky.

i agree wid @sia few posts made it luk like swara is not worth of sanky & snaky'd done sum fvaour on her by falling in luv wid her & marrying her.and every1 pampers her. tho its nowhere shown. who pampers swara except sanky. if she does a mistake shes the one who was questioned or treated v.badly.

@nupur. v.gud post & quite balanced one.tho i don't agree wid u w.r.t swara 's cktization in this track but ur analysis is v.gud & i agree wid it.i din't find swara at fault here or her cktization as i m seeing shes having ML & had -ve flashes of sanky then sahil sending goons making it luk like sanky did it made her behave like this IMO.

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Nupur

@Nupur_5

Voyager

Posted: 9 years ago

#175

@Tiny : Well thank you that you agree with me what I said except for Swara's characterization in this track!

And about Swara's characterization, well I gave her lots of benefit of daubts, lots of leeway considering she is having ML, going through alot of turmoils, physically not well, having -ve flashes of Sanskaar tried to kill her, Jahil sending goons & looking it like Sanskaar did it!

I got these! I understand her point, I really do!

And trust me, I have no problem Swara being friendly with Jahil & trusting him bcoz there was no reason not to trust!

And I have no problem either for Swara not trusting Sanskaar or accusing him as her murderer!

Except these two things, I didn't like how Swara simply behaved! With everyone, in every situation!

She was totally out of her character!

Her some doings, some actions really didn't make sense! She was out of character in this track!

And as I said I can't and won't support blindly even if Swara & Sanskaar are my favorites & I love them!

She was suffering from ML alright Bt having ML doesn't mean you will forget your nature, how you always behave or the traits you have! These things are natural & people in every damn situation behave the way they always did in their whole life!

Just like a ML patient don't forget how they sit, talk, look through something, in which language they know, their educational knowledge, the same way they don't forget their natural traits!

I didn't mind her friendship with Jahil (No matter how much I loathe even seeing that creep's face) and her screaming Khooni, Ghatiya aadmi & so on to Sanskaar (No matter how much it pained me)

Bt I couldn't understand why Swara didn't try to find truth, why she didn't give some thoughts that why everyone is praising & believing that one person who is her supposed murderer! She was angry with her mother which was understandable that time Bt didn't she talked with her mother later (I know the both family members are at huge fault Bt here im only talking about Swara's part)

The Swara we knew would have did everything which I mentioned above & even more to find truth! She always was a truth seeker! Bt here I didn't see her doing anything Bt simply accusing Sanskaar & maintaining 'Only im right, every other person are wrong' attitude! She behaved like a spoilt brat which Swara never was & which is not Swara!

Apart from these there was some other things she did or did not which is so not her! And having ML or suffering from physical & mental turmoil don't stop someone to do or not to do! Bcoz there are some things which is natural almost as breathing!

And there lies my problem!

Well some people definitely can disagree with me or can blindly support Swara (Not only just Swara or Sanskaar Bt their other fav characters) Bt definitely I will not support blindly just bcoz they are my fav.

And I have no problem with others opinion or POV as long as they are being polite & criticizing in limit without bashing or mocking!

And about Swara's characterization we don't agree with each other Bt lets stop it with respect for each other & others opinion!

I hope I didn't offended you or anyone!

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Pooja Menon

@pooja-menon

Trailblazer

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Posted: 9 years ago

#176

Originally posted by: Nupur_5
@Tiny : Well thank you that you agree with me what I said except for Swara's characterization in this track!

And about Swara's characterization, well I gave her lots of benefit of daubts, lots of leeway considering she is having ML, going through alot of turmoils, physically not well, having -ve flashes of Sanskaar tried to kill her, Jahil sending goons & looking it like Sanskaar did it!
I got these! I understand her point, I really do!
And trust me, I have no problem Swara being friendly with Jahil & trusting him bcoz there was no reason not to trust!
And I have no problem either for Swara not trusting Sanskaar or accusing him as her murderer!

Except these two things, I didn't like how Swara simply behaved! With everyone, in every situation!
She was totally out of her character!
Her some doings, some actions really didn't make sense! She was out of character in this track!
And as I said I can't and won't support blindly even if Swara & Sanskaar are my favorites & I love them!

She was suffering from ML alright Bt having ML doesn't mean you will forget your nature, how you always behave or the traits you have! These things are natural & people in every damn situation behave the way they always did in their whole life!
Just like a ML patient don't forget how they sit, talk, look through something, in which language they know, their educational knowledge, the same way they don't forget their natural traits!
I didn't mind her friendship with Jahil (No matter how much I loathe even seeing that creep's face) and her screaming Khooni, Ghatiya aadmi & so on to Sanskaar (No matter how much it pained me)
Bt I couldn't understand why Swara didn't try to find truth, why she didn't give some thoughts that why everyone is praising & believing that one person who is her supposed murderer! She was angry with her mother which was understandable that time Bt didn't she talked with her mother later (I know the both family members are at huge fault Bt here im only talking about Swara's part)
The Swara we knew would have did everything which I mentioned above & even more to find truth! She always was a truth seeker! Bt here I didn't see her doing anything Bt simply accusing Sanskaar & maintaining 'Only im right, every other person are wrong' attitude! She behaved like a spoilt brat which Swara never was & which is not Swara!

Apart from these there was some other things she did or did not which is so not her! And having ML or suffering from physical & mental turmoil don't stop someone to do or not to do! Bcoz there are some things which is natural almost as breathing!
And there lies my problem!

Well some people definitely can disagree with me or can blindly support Swara (Not only just Swara or Sanskaar Bt their other fav characters) Bt definitely I will not support blindly just bcoz they are my fav.

And I have no problem with others opinion or POV as long as they are being polite & criticizing in limit without bashing or mocking!

And about Swara's characterization we don't agree with each other Bt lets stop it with respect for each other & others opinion!

I hope I didn't offended you or anyone!

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KostinsQueen

@KostinsQueen

Sparkler

Posted: 9 years ago

#177

Originally posted by: Nupur_5
@Tiny : Well thank you that you agree with me what I said except for Swara's characterization in this track!

And about Swara's characterization, well I gave her lots of benefit of daubts, lots of leeway considering she is having ML, going through alot of turmoils, physically not well, having -ve flashes of Sanskaar tried to kill her, Jahil sending goons & looking it like Sanskaar did it!
I got these! I understand her point, I really do!
And trust me, I have no problem Swara being friendly with Jahil & trusting him bcoz there was no reason not to trust!
And I have no problem either for Swara not trusting Sanskaar or accusing him as her murderer!

Except these two things, I didn't like how Swara simply behaved! With everyone, in every situation!
She was totally out of her character!
Her some doings, some actions really didn't make sense! She was out of character in this track!
And as I said I can't and won't support blindly even if Swara & Sanskaar are my favorites & I love them!

She was suffering from ML alright Bt having ML doesn't mean you will forget your nature, how you always behave or the traits you have! These things are natural & people in every damn situation behave the way they always did in their whole life!
Just like a ML patient don't forget how they sit, talk, look through something, in which language they know, their educational knowledge, the same way they don't forget their natural traits!
I didn't mind her friendship with Jahil (No matter how much I loathe even seeing that creep's face) and her screaming Khooni, Ghatiya aadmi & so on to Sanskaar (No matter how much it pained me)
Bt I couldn't understand why Swara didn't try to find truth, why she didn't give some thoughts that why everyone is praising & believing that one person who is her supposed murderer! She was angry with her mother which was understandable that time Bt didn't she talked with her mother later (I know the both family members are at huge fault Bt here im only talking about Swara's part)
The Swara we knew would have did everything which I mentioned above & even more to find truth! She always was a truth seeker! Bt here I didn't see her doing anything Bt simply accusing Sanskaar & maintaining 'Only im right, every other person are wrong' attitude! She behaved like a spoilt brat which Swara never was & which is not Swara!

Apart from these there was some other things she did or did not which is so not her! And having ML or suffering from physical & mental turmoil don't stop someone to do or not to do! Bcoz there are some things which is natural almost as breathing!
And there lies my problem!

Well some people definitely can disagree with me or can blindly support Swara (Not only just Swara or Sanskaar Bt their other fav characters) Bt definitely I will not support blindly just bcoz they are my fav.

And I have no problem with others opinion or POV as long as they are being polite & criticizing in limit without bashing or mocking!

And about Swara's characterization we don't agree with each other Bt lets stop it with respect for each other & others opinion!

I hope I didn't offended you or anyone!

@Blue
Can't Agree more , You very well explained what we didn't like
Thanks for this

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Mallika-E-Zain

@Mallika-E-Zain

Rocker

Posted: 9 years ago

#178

Woah guys!! I've not read the pages after 4 and I'm not interested too!! But seriously man, what is this!! This post is completely Swara vs Sanskaar!! Really?? Do we SwaSan fans have to fight amazing ourselves!!
Guys LEARN to respect other's views!! You just can't IMPOSE your opinion on them!! We all are DIFFERENT and hence our thinking differs. That doesn't mean we'll start fighting among ourselves!! This isn't a Parliament House damn it,
The TM just posted her views on the scene. If you have to agree fine, if disagree GREAT!! But what is the need to quarrel among ourselves? And then comes the most EPIC of all things-
Swara's love is FAKE?? Seriously? Are you people kidding me?? Did you forget the girl's AGONY when she had pined for Sanskaar during Cavity track? Did you forget her TEARS when she ran all the way home, because she couldn't see HER Sanskaar, HER soulmate being engaged to someone else! Did you all forget how she had ASKED him to shoot, because she had the UNDYING FAITH on him and THEIR love!! Did you all forget her cry- I LOVE YOU SANSKAAR while she feel of the cliff!!? If you haven't then please DO NOT call SwaSan love fake!!
This is to all this those who have a pinch of doubt on Swara's love for Sanskaar!!

I too was dejected yesterday!! I just felt heartbroken this time and the biggest. This behaviour of Swara did hurt me! Swara running away could have been shown in SOOO Many ways by the CVs but this made me quite unhappy! But fine, we can't just fight like that. Guys, we are SwaSanians...a powerful fandom!! If we stay united, we are too Huge! Let's be one in all cases and not fight like that!!

Not intended to hurt anyone please!!

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