No Butchering of Swara by CVs! Justifications!

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hey guys! So here I am back again. But this post is more of an answer which I couldn't give yesterday. Some of my friends and me were having a discussion on VK AT, and I couldn't reply to them as sleep took over me, so here I'll give them, and it is also more of my POV regarding Swara, so I hope all would understand and won't make a war post out of this!

Now coming to it! As I've seen most SwaSanians were irked with Swara's behaviour towards Kissan yesterday. Well, her behaviour was ABSOLUTELY JUSTIFIED. Before Sanskaar, what has her life been? Music Maa and Dida! For such a girl, if you play with a musical instrument, it will be UNBEARABLE no doubts! I can't see someone playing with my keyboard/piano like this.The fact is it is easy to say, but for a person, like me, who worships music, such a grave insult is INTOLERABLE. Same is the case with Swara.

And Swara is Kissan's guru right? Guru has all rights to scold! Don't teachers ever scold when you don't do a thing properly, or when you insult someone? They do right? Then, where was Swara wrong. Teachers have been given a position equal to God, because they give us knowledge. She didn't insult him, but doesn't a teacher tell your weakness? Just because Kissan is Sanskaar, people are bashing Swara. Just because he is Sanskaar, you all say that Swara shouldn't have shouted on him. Why not??

And then some say, she has no rights to insult him like that? Where was it an insult? She just told him what he can't do because she was INFURIATED! Don't tell me, you haven't spoken something harsh, in VEXATION! Everybody does that. But because he is Sanskaar, so nobody gets the right to shout on him. Great! And because she does this she becomes Swara Devi!

When SwaSan fans will bash her unnecessarily, then why won't the others? Sanskaar is the best Lead, I agree. He is my super favourite too, I love him like anything and Kissan is like a latest crush. But that doesn't mean, that I will bash Swara and call her Devi. Guys, she is being a human now!! All the time people have called her mahaan, but now she is being a human, then also people have problem with her?

And then comes the most horrible point! Swara likes being MANHANDLED but can't see a guy dancing with a harmonium. Wowww! Guys, honestly tell me, which girl would like being manhandled? Sahil pulled her away, that was Sahil's fault and obssession but where is Swara's fault in that? She herself was shocked to see this side of Sahil, wasn't she? Even if she didn't react to it, maybe because CVs didn't like to give such a scene. But STOP calling Swara Devi because of that please!

Guys, Swara is not having flashes, because it has just been merely 6-7 days AT MAX. since she came back home. She isn't ready to accept Sanskaar, because that sight haunts her. Nobody telling her the truth is MM wasis problem, but where's Swara wrong due to that? She won't get flashes in a week, because that gunshot thing haunts her. She can't forget it. She was about to faint when Dadi was talking to her. For us, the track has had 1 month, in the show it is A WEEK!!

Swara has hurt Sanskaar yesss...but she has NOT hurt Kissan. Kissan deserved it, alteast I would have done that. And she will care for him, when he fakes fever, won't she?? Then what is the problem with Swara? I know lack of monologues! Well, this is one point I AGREE upon. CVs need to give us monologues, from Swara's POV which they are ignoring just like they did with Sanskaar. But yet, I connect to her, yet I feel she isn't wrong!

Swara's character is NOT BEING BUTCHERED, but being ,made a proper human, like people have wanted her to be, who cares for herself, who speaks up if she has suffered and she is again the Bold Beauty with Brains Swara Bose!!

Swara will regret a lot after she gains her memory back! In fact, regret a lot would an understatement, and honestly, there is no punishment MORE painful THAN regret, I tell you!! Just give her time, try to understand her. We are SwaSanians, in SwaSan...it is not just SAN, there is SWA also!! That is my POV, and I hope people will try to understand that.

SwaSanian to the core!
Sakshi!

P.S. Not intended to hurt or bash anybody! Just posted what I think about Swara's behaviour right now, and how I hate the responses I'm getting from fellow SwaSan fans!

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Sakshi, a good post
We know SwaraSanskaar love each other and cannot bear Swara scolding Kissan who is Sanskaar...and also Swara being friendly with Sahil who is a psycho...but this is what we audience know...
As we differentiate from Reel and Real...here we have to separate audience knowledge and onscreen drama...
The fact as you said rightly is that Swara has gone to Sharmista and Dida days where music was important to her and she never thought of anything else not even love... Swara being angry is justified as music is her passion and life ... Kissan who is Sanskaar will understand this but in his haste to impress her made another mistake of lip singing...and henceforth he will learn from his mistake...
As for Swara's flashes or feelings...Swara did have a mind and heart conflict when Sanskaar left the house...and everytime she touches Kissan she feels the familiarity of closeness in her heart and her mind is not working then and we have seen Kissan gets her out of that trance, thus she cannot stay angry with him for long else she would have insisted on not inviting Kissan for puja...
When Swara sees Sanskaar her mind rules and dominates her heart...with Kissan her heart will get strong enough to eventually rule her mind...and then she will doubt her own flashes ad start thinking what is more to it..
Swara has no recollection of past and thus naturally confused and vulnerable, when information is thrown at her and Sahil trying to manipulate her...give her time to and we will get the detective or Sherni Swara...
The cv's are showing Swara is slowly coming close to Kissan cause it is Sanskaar behind the outer cover ...
Till then let us enjoy Kissan who apart from trying hard to tap into Swara's feeling for Sanskaar which are deep within has also to safeguard himself from the evil eyes of Sahil...
Sahil does not know SwaraSanskaar well and so it will be fun when they come in their Sherni and cunning avatar respectively to beat the carp out of Sahil...

Edited by NiViren-Raj - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Sakshi i love for this was not coming to forum coz of all this comments
I even read sanskar dont deserve wow srsly guys then who he deserve kav

If i go by logic i can also pounce on sanskar saying he knows her swara in and out and he knows for her music is her life then why he lied hide tape but i didnt coz i know i cant find logic in every scene

Swasan are couple coz both of them being part of eachother loving ne and bashing other wont make swasan our jodi


About man handel i also hated but then i saw swara pov for her sahil is her freind does she know about his obsession no
For her he is freind and two freinds going out on lunch other hold one freind hand ask her to move fast how can swara judge it as man handels

When he vurbally shouts she opposed it right

And aout swara monologue
That i miss alot i love swara alot the reason i hook to this show was swara now its swasan and sanskar
I so wanna hear her confusions but cvs not giving for that we can tell cvs on twitter fb insta
Cvs giving sahil sanskar even kissan monologues but not swara its not hers fault
Hope i am not being rude just got so diappointed when your co swasan blame the other half of there fav jodi

Edited by preetgurti - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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i completely agree with u
swara's behaviour is totally n absolutely justified
i think every viewer of swaragini needs to understand these 2 points very carefully that currently,
1)kissan is not sanskar for swara
2)sanskar is not the love of life of swara
kissan is her student and sanskar is a person who tried to kill her
she is suffering from a memory loss, she is swara bose n not swara sanskar maheshwari
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Posted: 9 years ago
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really people think swara's character is butchered ? how guys common yaar
firstly i myself love paino , trust me if anyone touches and doesnot use it properly or even eats and plays together i go mad .. i love my paino and no proper treatment of it i get furious .. so swara getting angry with kissan is understood ...
secondly swara's pov it ll come wid time .. i think they are trying that everyone gets against swara so she is finally all alone and has only 1 frnd thats kissan .. may be she ll eventually share... CVs are going slow so pls let them and they ll surely show ...
swara wid sahil as a frnd is fine - the man saved her life and owes him BIG TIME.. so she being a frnd is normal and human and also nobody knows he is negative so pls clam down
now cmng to swara feeling for sanskar - y the hell she shd feel anything for sanskar .. common guys she thinks that man tried to kill her so anyone in her place ll do the same and obviously not go near the man ... its natural and normal
ya ppl are missing swasan but the CVs need to justify that y swara ll eventually start falling for sanskar so i guess they are developing story for that .. pls patience
now finally sanskar is the best lead - pls lets not go there .. time and again sanskar is shown out of character .. malkin track , kavita track, uttara track , hell even kavya track .. now just coz he is trying to make swara remember everything he is perfect .. pls lets not say that ..
i love sanskar/kissan and hell i love VK to d core .. i love him like mad but he is shown casual many times.. i would anyday PREFER A INTELLIGENT SANSKAR OVER ROMANTIC SANSKAR . i m sry but that old sanskar is yet to come..he is still been being missed ...
now eventually Sanskar shd understand sahil's intention and if he still doesnot he ll be shown ..?
ok also now the track just started .. its going slow .. so just enjoy kissan who is a stress buster ..
Patience guys

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: luvakanksha

i completely agree with u

swara's behaviour is totally n absolutely justified
i think every viewer of swaragini needs to understand these 2 points very carefully that currently,
1)kissan is not sanskar for swara
2)sanskar is not the love of life of swara
kissan is her student and sanskar is a person who tried to kill her
she is suffering from a memory loss, she is swara bose n not swara sanskar maheshwari


Exactly!! All are going Sanskaar Sanskaar Sanskaar because he is suffering too much...He is yess!! Even I've cried for him!
But we need to understand Swara too, right?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: mans1234

really people think swara's character is butchered ? how guys common yaar

firstly i myself love paino , trust me if anyone touches and doesnot use it properly or even eats and plays together i go mad .. i love my paino and no proper treatment of it i get furious .. so swara getting angry with kissan is understood ...
secondly swara's pov it ll come wid time .. i think they are trying that everyone gets against swara so she is finally all alone and has only 1 frnd thats kissan .. may be she ll eventually share... CVs are going slow so pls let them and they ll surely show ...
swara wid sahil as a frnd is fine - the man saved her life and owes him BIG TIME.. so she being a frnd is normal and human and also nobody knows he is negative so pls clam down
now cmng to swara feeling for sanskar - y the hell she shd feel anything for sanskar .. common guys she thinks that man tried to kill her so anyone in her place ll do the same and obviously not go near the man ... its natural and normal
ya ppl are missing swasan but the CVs need to justify that y swara ll eventually start falling for sanskar so i guess they are developing story for that .. pls patience
now finally sanskar is the best lead - pls lets not go there .. time and again sanskar is shown out of character .. malkin track , kavita track, uttara track , hell even kavya track .. now just coz he is trying to make swara remember everything he is perfect .. pls lets not say that ..
i love sanskar/kissan and hell i love VK to d core .. i love him like mad but he is shown casual many times.. i would anyday PREFER A INTELLIGENT SANSKAR OVER ROMANTIC SANSKAR . i m sry but that old sanskar is yet to come..he is still been being missed ...
now eventually Sanskar shd understand sahil's intention and if he still doesnot he ll be shown ..?
ok also now the track just started .. its going slow .. so just enjoy kissan who is a stress buster ..
Patience guys


Exactly!! Any insult to music or musical instruments is far more than bearable for me! Same is the case with Swara, whats wrong in it? Swara is not aware of Sahil's intentions, like we our! We hate him because we are SwaSan fans, but Swara is just a normal girl who befriends everybody! And for her, Sahil is the only one who doesn't like Sanskaar, so she'll obviously feel that he is a good friend.
Thats my point!! She will feel for him, but given some time! She can't move ahead of that gunshot sight! She is still in a severe mental condition! Patience guys Patience!! Although I beleive Sanskaar has not been showed strangely except Malkin and Kavita track, but I love him as he is!! Yet, it doesn't mean I would hate Swara! I would always support my favs whenever they are right!
Seriously...patience!!

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I think I have a drastically different opinion here. Let me go point wise:


Before Sanskaar her life was music, ma & dida. Dida is MIA so lets leave that BUT why doesnt she trust her mom when she says Sanskaar isnt a bad guy? Does she really believe her mother would side with a man who would try to murder her? She knows she is suffering from memory loss & has one single memory of the man but every other proof & witness testify to something opposite to her belief. I can understand her not trusting the Maheshwaris but not trusting her own mother? Her faith in her mother is that weak?


Coming to music, guru, respect, etc. Firstly Kisan was playing with HIS harmonium, not hers. She respects music great! But that is his instrument & he can do what he wants with it. Also, this was the first time she saw him "disrespecting" a musical instrument (I dont think it was disrespectful but chalo some people are more sensitive about such stuff) so shouldn't you be gentle on the first mistake? There is a lot of difference between scolding someone & insulting someone. Saying you have no sur taal ki samajh is as insult since she is his guru of ONE DAY only. A teacher, more than anyone else, is patient with his student. Its not as if she has spent a year on him & even then he keeps doing these monkey acts.The first time a strict warning should suffice but nope! We must have a full fledged bhashan🥱


Sahil & Music: Now before I go to the manhandling let me talk about one more thing. Swara is in her Guru mode. She is giving instructions to her student about what he should be doing while she is away. Then Sahil has the audacity to drag her out from there even when she is not done talking? Now THAT isn't an insult of the guru - shishya tradition? That isnt an insult to music itself? I remember when I used to go for my classes my teacher never stopped mid instruction even to talk to her 12 yr old son when he returned from school. She should have shouted at Sahil too for disrupting her practice. Its not as if he was dying that he couldnt wait right? Or is it that friends over respecting music any day? Such double standards!


Manhandling: How much is too much? Today he pulled her. She was OK with it? Next what? Is a man wrong in assuming that he was right in what he did (disrupting her lessons, pulling her, shouting at her, etc) if the girl doesnt tell him in clear cut words that NO IT IS NOT OK?! Swara need not know that he is an obsessive lover to start setting some boundaries. I have friends who are men & I am yet to be pulled or shouted at by anyone of them & it is not that they dont do it with others, it is that they know I will not be tolerating it. So yes, if Swara does not stop him then it does mean she is OK with it. Also since everyone keeps saying its been only a week since Swara is back, then by that calculation its been only two weeks (or chalo I will give you one month) since she knows Sahil. So much lack of boundaries in a few week old friendship is definitely a little hard to digest. And I am also not going to give Swara any benefit of doubt here. If she can scream at Sanskaar & Kisan & tell them clearly what's on her mind she can do the same with Sahil too. Otherwise that would be another example of her hypocrisy.


Insulting Kisan: I already told what I felt about the incident at the baadi. Now coming to MM. Once again let me repeat! She is there as Ragini's sister & not as Sanskaar's wife. So she has basically zero rights to create a tamasha there especially when there is a Pooja going on. She is as much a guest as Kisan. Secondly she did not invite Kisan, Laksh did. He is Laksh's guest which means her Jiju's guest. Which also means she again has ZERO rights to insult his guest. She could have just said to Laksh "I did tell you he is hopeless" but nope we must have a full fledged bhashan even there🥱 And if you tell me she insulted him because she is his guru, again wrong! Gurus do not insult. Guru's correct & they do it at their school which in this case would be baadi. Not in MM. There was no need to spoil such an auspicious occasion by your ranting. Before creating a new drama in MM maybe for once Swara needs to stop & think how she is in her sister's sasural & how later Ragini may have to face the music for her actions? Stay in your limits please Swara?


Sanskaar & Memory Loss: You have said in your post that Swara has been back for just a week & it is not right on our part to expect her to forgive Sanskaar since MM wasis are not telling her the whole story & also that it is wrong to expect her to have flashbacks. OK chalo we will go by the timeline of one week. But see what all she HAS managed to do in one week. She has been found roaming in the park with Sahil, playing games with children in the baadi, insulted Sanskaar in the most horrible fashion in his own home which makes me question if she even has any basic decency & manners, gone to MM to take care of a pregnant sister, been the cause of Sanskaar leaving his home, later left same home making his leaving & her coming entirely pointless, gone out for lunch with Sahil, saved a suicidal Kisan, decided to teach Kisan, decided to participate in IGT with him, participated in a Pooja & again insulted another man screaming at the top of her lungs. So tell me, if she can do all these things why cant she herself sit down with someone & ask them the whole story? She may or may not believe it. But why isnt she curious about this man whom her own family fangirls over but she knows is a murderer? If MM wasis arent telling her...why isnt she, Swara Detective Bose doing something to find out about this guy? It is her life right & she knows she is married. Its not as if let me ignore it for a few days & it will go away? What is Swara afraid of? I think Swara is afraid of the truth. I think she fears that she will be proven horribly wrong & then where will she be? Am I then wrong if I assume that this "back to old Swara" finds her marriage a burden which she isnt willing to carry at the moment? Maybe she is really enjoying her freedom 😊 Any other woman would have taken a "samaj ki nazro mein hum pati patni hai" a little more seriously than Swara is taking at the moment. Its all about priorities in the end & am I expecting too much if I think Swara should prioritize finding the truth over Sahil & Kisan & her other fun activities?

Edited by The.Lannister - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: preetgurti

Sakshi i love for this was not coming to forum coz of all this comments

I even read sanskar dont deserve wow srsly guys then who he deserve kav

If i go by logic i can also pounce on sanskar saying he knows her swara in and out and he knows for her music is her life then why he lied hide tape but i didnt coz i know i cant find logic in every scene

Swasan are couple coz both of them being part of eachother loving ne and bashing other wont make swasan our jodi


About man handel i also hated but then i saw swara pov for her sahil is her freind does she know about his obsession no
For her he is freind and two freinds going out on lunch other hold one freind hand ask her to move fast how can swara judge it as man handels

When he vurbally shouts she opposed it right

And aout swara monologue
That i miss alot i love swara alot the reason i hook to this show was swara now its swasan and sanskar
I so wanna hear her confusions but cvs not giving for that we can tell cvs on twitter fb insta
Cvs giving sahil sanskar even kissan monologues but not swara its not hers fault
Hope i am not being rude just got so diappointed when your co swasan blame the other half of there fav jodi


Even I rarely come to the forum now!! Just to read the superb FFs here. SwaSan also has SWA in it, that is what I want to convey!! Sahil is a jahil gadha, we know! But for Swara, he is a friend who saved her life, and supported her when her parents took Sanskaar's side (I hate to type this).
Monologues point, we all agree!! We need to have monologues from Swara's side, but bashing her merely, for shouting on Kissan, is not acceptable...atleast not to me!
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Exactly!! Any insult to music or musical instruments is far more than bearable for me! Same is the case with Swara, whats wrong in it? Swara is not aware of Sahil's intentions, like we our! We hate him because we are SwaSan fans, but Swara is just a normal girl who befriends everybody! And for her, Sahil is the only one who doesn't like Sanskaar, so she'll obviously feel that he is a good friend.
Thats my point!! She will feel for him, but given some time! She can't move ahead of that gunshot sight! She is still in a severe mental condition! Patience guys Patience!! Although I beleive Sanskaar has not been showed strangely except Malkin and Kavita track, but I love him as he is!! Yet, it doesn't mean I would hate Swara! I would always support my favs whenever they are right!
Seriously...patience!!

i agree sakshi
again music lovers cant take irresponsible treatment wid there music instrument . the fact is they are very attached ..
guys if no patience then they ll wind up the track ... pls just all of u have patience yaar and pls calm down ..
ya ya .. trust me i want my intelligent sanskar and then that face off .. par hota hai . sab aayega .. thoda patience plsss .. i guess a new twist ll come after that IGT audition ..
swara ka POV milega .. itna tension mat karo pls.. sab milega ..
and ya we as viwers know everything and not swasan .. so chill karo plss

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