Who is justifiable? Ragini or Laksh?

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Posted: 9 years ago
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After today's episode, their forced trial to make Ragini a bechari,
And a forced Swaragini scene,
I still can't understand what is my stand for Ragini.
Because many people, I saw commenting, how fake she is.
Yup, to an extent, it is true, nah?
Why always Ragini gets the benefit of sympathy?
So, where is her redemption?
I mean, she is also a lead, (even if parallel)she should also get the troubles like swara is getting.
Then only people can accept her redemption whole heatedly, nah?
Ragini, after all these villainous avatar, suddenly turned abala naari, requiring Swara' s support, AP's concern.
And they are ready to shower it on her.
This is too unreal.
It is too much injustice to that character, no?
We will feel her as unbelievable, no?
And such a transition will leave a room for doubt in every future tracks on Ragini.
I mean, if they want to make rgini a positive, there should not leave any grudge over that character, no?
This is soo abala naari, bechari Ragini..
Above all, her taunts on Swara is still on..
That too with those pathetic words "pehla pyaar", when she herself is a victim of pehla pyaar.
She should atleast now realize,that pyaar pehla ho ya doosara, if it was a forced one, it doesn't have any Worth.
Means Ragini is still so nasamajh?
Don't having any value in her life?
Her dadi claimed about her sanskaripan, but that Malkin track clearly showed how asanskari she is.
Above all, a Sanskari bahu, becoming sooo desperate for her so called 'haq'
Is anything still left for that character?

And Laksh is also not wrong.
How can he put faith in her all of a sudden, after these much kartoots.
Her sudden concern for Swara's injury, when she herself tried to kill her many times in the past.
And Laksh never got justice, as their relation was be a forced one.
And each time he wants to get rid of this, he again falls into the same pit.
Even today AP is forcing him to accept her.
But how when his dil can't accept her.
I mean love should be from both sides.
When he loved Swara, but she doesn't love her, then there is nothing left in that relation.
After a long struggle, he realised the meaning of Truuu love.
But now he is not feeling that true love for his partner.
I agree that it was his immature decision to marry Ragini without thinking about it twice.
Now he is totally trapped in another "truuu louuu"
How can CVs justify their relation when it was not out of their love, but out of selfishness or a forceful one?
Above all, his each attempts to get rid of that relation turn out to be failures, because it lack proper planning & application of intelligent moves.
I am really disappointed, that Ragya is not getting justice..
I mean, both may have a reason of their own, but it is not justifying their actions

Above all the negative characters are also from Ragini's side.
I mean, her redemption track, still all negative vibes just because of her?
This is not done.
Her dadi, her massi.. All are negative.
People had a liking towards her mom, but this "gege khush nahi hein"😡 jaap really destroyed everything..
Now people are not liking her too.
People started mocking her too in the name of "Gege.."
And Ragini is not responding to her Massi' s stupidity, when she is turning an annoyance to all.
This is making Ragini more worse.
Both Swara & Ragini got the same education, I mean, both learned music still Swara is intelligent, and Ragini is a dumb.
Her attempts to show her intelligence is turning out to make a joker.. Like she did in Malkin track.
Still she is interfering in others matters like yesterday she ordering sanskar to do this, that..
I mean if she is on redemption, she should realise that such a malkingiri is soo cheap..
I am tired of describing the poor portrayal of Ragya characters.

How many of you are feeling disappointment like me, on RagYa's making?
Give your views
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Posted: 9 years ago
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ragini character will never get justification till she really suffers loss, separation rejection and retribution and redemption. she will always come across as fake. she has no realization that she is a kettle calling a pot black. she is constantly taunting swara for stealing kavitas first love. has she forgotten that she herself stole her sister's bridegroom in the very mandap that her sister was to marry him.
she conned lakshya into marrying her when he was in love with swara. ragini lied, cheated, kidnapped her mother, tried to kill her sister, falsely accused sanskaar for molestation, slandered swaras character,committed the most atrocious acts and she never apologise for any of that. but does she get punishment. no her reward to live a happy married life.

i really want lakshya to succeed in his plan. and throw ragini out where she realises her mistakes and is sorry for them.

AP should not forget that ragini is a snake who will bite anybody if she is crossed.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Swati, I have lots to say so today I'll res and unres tomorrow.
Unres

Ragini actions are not justifiable... never was. She is living in a fantasy world and is not able to see what she has done to others.. She keeps on blaming Swara for snatching her first love but she forgets that she is the one responsible for that. She herself forced them to join and then broke both their hearts. But more than Ragini her dadi is at fault. I've said this earlier also. Ragini's mother figure is Dadi, has always been. Needless to say how she is, so her sanskari pan will be transferred to her ladoo also. The difference between right and wrong is taught to all of us by our mothers more than our fathers and they mould our character. Here Shekar never got a role to play in his daughters life. Dadaji and Dadiji decided on what to do and how and it was put into action. Dadi said if you ever make a mistake I'll punish you and then later supported her in torturing her in laws. Such double standards.. For Ragini she is always the victim because she is always self sympathising which is not a healthy habit. Even the love for which she was ready to kill her sister, kidnap her mom and torture all she ended up taking revenge from him for not returning her love. She doesn't understand the value of relations or the meaning of love. Bringing her to redemption can be possible only if she can remove the glasses she has put on and see the reality. What s love for her I don't understand... was it just to get intimate with the one whom you love? Physical intimacy is not love. And she never took any step in getting love or respect from her inlaws or her hubby. She was brought up to be a good bahu.. and till date I haven't seen anything in that direction. I'm disappointed beyond words on what they have done to a beautiful character. She fell so low that now for me her redemption is not possible, or else they have to show her suffer like hell, maybe then we can accept her.

Laksh on the other hand, is again wrong on so many levels. He could have told Ragini the truth that he is not interested in marriage and its because of his father's force that he is getting married and if they marry he will need time to give her the love and care a wife has rights on. Till then be friends and get to know each other. This would have saved both their lives. Later like Ragini Laksh aslo had a obsession but he got over it after he realised that his love is lost for ever. He is the one who has suffered the most and yet everyone expects him to accept her as wife (everyone in a sense AP, Ragini and her Dadi). She has destroyed his life, happiness... to forgive her he must be having a great heart or she should have showered her love so much on him. Both of which is not possible. This relation suffocates him and he is doing everything to get rid of it. Ragini if had any brains would understand that this forced relation has no future and would quit her madness. Even now he got intimate with her to win her trust and get sign on divorce paper an act which I don't support but I understand that he is so desperate to get her out of his life that he is not looking at the consequences of this act. His impulsive nature has landed him in this situation and he is digging the hole deeper now. Both are equally at fault.

CV's had a great pair with amazing chemistry and could have shown some light moments where her love was over the sky and him falling slow and steadly not suddenly as he just had a heart break. But instead we got haq jaap, murder plotting, kidnap, malkin drama and now aatma... How can anyone love a girl who has burned his life to ashes? If he falls then the reason should be convincing. Here nothing like that. They show on episode that Ragini is now positive and Laksh is mad about her and we are supposed to believe it. Its total injustice to both the characters in this show.

As for Jiji kush nahi hai.. How can she be happy seeing all the great paths her only child is taking.. Ek galat rasta fine, we can say human nature, we all make mistakes and all that to support her action. But always the wrong path?? Jiji will be happy when Ragini is finally redeemed and settle down with her hubby, which if CV's want will happen in next episode no questions asked..
Edited by Sree8410 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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i just want this crap of a track to end and move forward with the upcoming track...its getting boring now...as its stuck at one position...ragini's character is made a mess due to trps greed...otherwise ragini's character is same as swara...its getting annoying now...stop the dragging...move on...i am bored of discussing abt her deeds...just make her realise her mistake...accept...rectify it...redeem her...its getting too much now...the cvs for the greed of trps spoil every relationship that relates to ragini...such a hot sizzling couple Ragya are...they could pen down a passionate love story for Ragya...but no they have to ruin Ragya story too...who writes such creative craps...if given to our IF friends...they write a good story and brings a shame out of this creative idiots...there is too much negativity in this show...they even spoil the title of the show by showing something totally opposite to it...if i am still stick to the show is becos of swasan-ragya...otherwise i would have quit the show long ago...
justify or no justify is not the question...both are wrong...i don't support ragini nor lakshya...both have stoop low...ragini deserves a punishment...lakshya's betrayal is her punishment...but equally lakshya too deserves a punishment for using ragini physically to achieve his goal...that was cheap...ragini might have done all the bad deeds...but noone has the rights to use a women physically...even if that has to teach her a lesson...a women's body is not a property or toy to play with...i hate such mens who use womens physically...there is lots of ways to teach ragini a lesson...but teaching a lesson by using her physically...its wrong in my eyes...many might thats what ragini wanted...her HAQ...she wanted her HAQ out of love...not using her physically...there is difference in it...whatever lakshya has been doing to ragini is a marital rape even though ragini allows it...she doesn't know his intentions and she thinks he is in love with her...i have seen such cases in crime patrol...don't justify this saying ragini deserves it for her bad deeds...she deserves her punishment..she needs to suffer...she needs to cry...she needs to lead a miserable life of loneliness and rejection...but for that using her physically is cheap...lakshya deserves a punishment for that...


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mages

i just want this crap of a track to end and move forward with the upcoming track...its getting boring now...as its stuck at one position...ragini's character is made a mess due to trps greed...otherwise ragini's character is same as swara...its getting annoying now...stop the dragging...move on...i am bored of discussing abt her deeds...just make her realise her mistake...accept...rectify it...redeem her...its getting too much now...the cvs for the greed of trps spoil every relationship that relates to ragini...such a hot sizzling couple Ragya are...they could pen down a passionate love story for Ragya...but no they have to ruin Ragya story too...who writes such creative craps...if given to our IF friends...they write a good story and brings a shame out of this creative idiots...there is too much negativity in this show...they even spoil the title of the show by showing something totally opposite to it...if i am still stick to the show is becos of swasan-ragya...otherwise i would have quit the show long ago...

justify or no justify is not the question...both are wrong...i don't support ragini nor lakshya...both have stoop low...ragini deserves a punishment...lakshya's betrayal is her punishment...but equally lakshya too deserves a punishment for using ragini physically to achieve his goal...that was cheap...ragini might have done all the bad deeds...but noone has the rights to use a women physically...even if that has to teach her a lesson...a women's body is not a property or toy to play with...i hate such mens who use womens physically...there is lots of ways to teach ragini a lesson...but teaching a lesson by using her physically...its wrong in my eyes...many might thats what ragini wanted...her HAQ...she wanted her HAQ out of love...not using her physically...there is difference in it...whatever lakshya has been doing to ragini is a marital rape even though ragini allows it...she doesn't know his intentions and she thinks he is in love with her...i have seen such cases in crime patrol...don't justify this saying ragini deserves it for her bad deeds...she deserves her punishment..she needs to suffer...she needs to cry...she needs to lead a miserable life of loneliness and rejection...but for that using her physically is cheap...lakshya deserves a punishment for that...




It's also wrong to physically harm a woman. Like pushing her off a bridge or stabbing her. Ragini may not be a man but she did those things in greed and selfishly. She has no motives other than selfishness. Where as Laksh's motive was to teach her a lesson.

And I personally don't think that was "using her physically". He didnt sleep with her for pleasure and to satisfy his physical needs. He basically sold his body to her to get that signature. If you look back .. she's always been after him trying to make him sleep with her from the day of their marriage. As much romantic as anyone tries to make it look. It was just disgusting because she knows Laksh loved Swara yet she wanted to sleep with him. Remember that episode when Laksh almost slep wiith her but went out screaming Swara. I'm sure if she was strong enough she would have probably tried to rape him for her haq. It's not thirst for love. It's plane disgusting. He basically just gave in and accepted her request and slept with her. Then cheated. Ragini is not the only one who can back stab. Just because she is women doesnt necessarily make her a victim in all this. That's what RS is going to do too but that's ridiculous.


Both are wrong but it's no where near equal. Ragini is much worse. I still stand by what I said. She should be locked up in jail or a mental asylum.
Edited by Vt-Cl - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I haven't watched the show as much as the rest of u have watched. So still putting the pieces together. But from what I am watching. Ragini is simple basking in the supposed love of laksh not any1 elses. She isn't going out of her way to want to be seen as a nice person who has realized she is wrong. She just has stopped being bad for the moment. There isn't any realization of what she has done, that realization will hit her full force with laksh's betrayal. I might be wrong in my perception of what I am seeing as I am not a fan of the show in its entirety so even when I watch I still change the channel unless its a raglak or ragini scene. Bt still the show is testing my patience move on with the storyline. Certain writers aka sharad tripathe likes to tell fans that in his shows he likes to juice the storyline out. Bt unfortunately he juices the story so much that it ends up being utterly dry and dead and doesn't realise that there are certain moments in a show when the show and the characters must move forward otherwise u just end up ruining the character and the show. I think some feel that this has been done to ragini's character. But for some who like her and new fans of the show we still want her to have her story and so the only thing we want to get done is for her to find out Laksh's truth. She is 1 of the leads of the show and I wnt call her a parallel lead coz unlike other 'supposed leads' her name is in the actual title. Bt back to your question. Laksh's methods are distasteful to say the least. He has obviously done the deed with her. Its just going to be so interesting when he gets what he wants if he is satisfied and hw he will deal with the aftermath of his actions. Bt both these characters to me are black and their story must be shown. I want to see the imperfect being made perfect with these 2. They hot. They the baddest couple I have seen on tv they so hot. More screen time is needed. I dnt care what both did in their past I just wana see a proper story btw those hotties.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Ragini is acting like a stubborn kid...
At makar sankranti time also... Wen her kite cutted by her dad n group, she was so angry at them... Poor lucky manages, consoles her every time. It's true that being with laksh she will not do any bad things, chal n all...
I support laksh n his pain until n unles he will not harm others..
Edited by MissUArYa - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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There is nothing called "justification" for neither Laksh or Ragini.

Laksh took the decision of marrying her impulsively without thinking about the consequences just to get back on Swara and Ragini "snatched" Laksh without really deserving him/his love. Both got married for the wrong reasons hence are not happy with each other and trying to play the victim card.

Ragini never forced Laksh to marry her in the first place, it was his own decision and again, nobody asked him to get physical with her now. It was also his own decision so he should take the responsibility of his stupidity. Two wrongs don't make a right! If he was a decent man, he wouldn't sink so low to actually sleep with her when he doesn't even love her or has any intention of staying with her.

Ragini may got succeed in snatching Laksh away from Swara but she could never earn his love. Getting the "haq" of a wife will not secure your marriage or make your husband love you. Trust is important in a relation which both lacks.

I dont believe in redemption in RS shows and since both are beyond redemption, their so called punishment will be Laksh being stuck with her and Ragini never get the true happiness/love she always wanted.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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@mages in usual circumstances, we will never stand with a boy who physically uses a woman for his selfish deeds.
But Ragini can't even get the benefit of that.
She had been desperate to get physical with him.
To assure her position in MM, she wants to get her haq.
Remember, she is using the word 'haq' for it
For that haq she troubled & destroyed so many lives around her.
She even tried to seduce him.
She was totally frustrated when she didn't get it.
More than Laksh, she was badly in need of that.
Here it is not Laksh, but Ragini is getting satisfaction from it.
So, how can we say Laksh is doing wrong by giving her 'haq'.
If he didn't she will again destroy people around her.
The theory of 'using the girl' is not true in Ragini's case.
She is stooped in such a level that she can't even get that benefit of sympathy in this case

But taking Laksh's case alone, by his decision to sleep with her and get back his property, is proving it that he is simply a coward.
I am not supporting Laksh's actions, but clearing my point that, Ragini can't even get the benefit of this usual clause
Edited by Shreeswathy - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Agree With All The Points Sree Nice Post 👍🏼
Before Redemption Ragini Needs Punishment Before That If Cv's Try To Create Sympathy Situation For Her Then They Will Badly Fail To Create That 👎🏼
Laksh He Has Done Really Distasteful Act For Getting Ragini Out Of His Life 🤢Through Giving Her Haq With A Intention To Throw Her Out Is Not Done At All 👎🏼But One Think Can't Be Denied That Ragini Seriously Needs Punishment
Edited by Fariiiii - 9 years ago

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