Calling all SwaSanians : Let's keep the faith, guys :) :) - Page 5

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sakura24

Thank you for this Viji! I am majorly upset myself. Firstly Swara went with her stubborn opver logical-ness and hurt Sanskar. Then when I come to IF I saw this act of hers has gained so much bitter response.

You're right, in relationships trust slips sometimes. For not every person is same in their behavior. Sanskar is cool, calm and mature always. He trusts her no matter what. Swara is not. She still has her share of world to see and learn, (Which I hope will happen soon) and still she believes in proof put in front of her. For some reason I don't see this entirely wrong either. That is the dynamic of their relationship, one is un-moving strong while the other is logical.
I second your thoughts on her realization later. She has to run around him like a maniac then only will we feel some peace. to come to that this was much needed. Love becomes stronger with bitterness and tests of fire. Sanskar knows this hence he said he will be there when she comes back after knowing the truth. I just respect him more for this now.
She would do a major redemption, which I am sure by judging her actions in the earlier struggles. We'll have some sweet moments then. Hoping for that day, fingers crossed.
good night!



Hey Saku...

Wanted to respond to your comment in a bit of detail from my lappie.

I am completely mad at Swara...and I do want a heavy dose of repentance from her. I'm sure, once she gets to know how misplaced her suspicions were, she is going to recollect the hurt and broken look on Sanskaar's face when she questioned him, and that is going to haunt her like hell. She's going to go all out to win his trust back, and by that time, she'd have realized what he means to her. So it will be a combined wooing and winning trust back track. 😊

But yes, Love that passes through tests of fire, emerges like the strongest steel. Sanskaar is already at that place, where he has accepted and internalized the strength of his feelings for Swara. The main reason I am cutting slack to Swara on this, is that she is yet to realize and accept what she feels for him. And she is definitely going to have some trust issues; how could she not, with her blood relatives, and her complete loser of an ex fiance (the sly kidnapper! 😡) having stabbed her in the back so many times?

Trust evolves in all relationships---be it a friendship or a marital relationship. Just because one party takes longer to develop that absolute trust doesn't make them a vile person. One with misguided priorities and a clouded thought process, sure. But not such a bad person that people start saying she doesn't deserve Sanskaar any more. 😊



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Posted: 9 years ago
#42
Thank you for the post!!👏
Yes, while watching Swara I really could not help disliking her, but then CVS need to provide some twists to continue their serial. That is all fine, but what was disappointing is Swara's dialogue that she would have done this to anybody... clearly putting Sanskaar and others in the same universe. She refused to understand Sanskaar's level of maturity and went on with her rightness of judgement... That would hurt anyone. Yes, she has still to realize her love for Sanskaar but her questioning of him also points to the fact that she believes Sanskaar's love for her as mere play... I am angry and hurt... and there definitely could have been a better direction. 😕
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: CogitoErgoSum



Hey Saku...

Wanted to respond to your comment in a bit of detail from my lappie.

I am completely mad at Swara...and I do want a heavy dose of repentance from her. I'm sure, once she gets to know how misplaced her suspicions were, she is going to recollect the hurt and broken look on Sanskaar's face when she questioned him, and that is going to haunt her like hell. She's going to go all out to win his trust back, and by that time, she'd have realized what he means to her. So it will be a combined wooing and winning trust back track. 😊

But yes, Love that passes through tests of fire, emerges like the strongest steel. Sanskaar is already at that place, where he has accepted and internalized the strength of his feelings for Swara. The main reason I am cutting slack to Swara on this, is that she is yet to realize and accept what she feels for him. And she is definitely going to have some trust issues; how could she not, with her blood relatives, and her complete loser of an ex fiance (the sly kidnapper! 😡) having stabbed her in the back so many times?

Trust evolves in all relationships---be it a friendship or a marital relationship. Just because one party takes longer to develop that absolute trust doesn't make them a vile person. One with misguided priorities and a clouded thought process, sure. But not such a bad person that people start saying she doesn't deserve Sanskaar any more. 😊



Exactly Viji. One mistake doesn't end life and one time misconception doesn't prove who deserves whom. I was so upset yesterday at some suggesting Ragini is better than Swara, I mean if we start such a thought process SuAn and us have no difference at all.
She will soon see what a folly she had made and I'm sure as you said her words and his replies + expressions is going to haunt her in to sleepless nights and senseless days. Now that's the track I'm hoping for.
I strongly believe in test of fire on trust. Sanskar is already through it, he has seen and experienced love not once but twice over, so his unshakable trust is justified.
On the other hand we have Swara. Who had been betrayed by every male who entered her life till now, is still discovering her feelings towards Sanskar and is trying her best to suppress them. I can hardly see her not jumping in to this conclusion that one more character in her life story has betrayed her trust.
And also, there is another angle to this. Which is Swara knows what she means to Sanskar. And what he does to people who hurts what is dear to him. She has first hand experiences on that. Ragini as they both agreed had engineered a plot where Swara would be proven characterless, where her relation with Sanskar was questioned and insulted. Is it wrong of Swara to suspect Sanskar would retaliate in this matter?
I know he hasn't, but in her shoes it seems likely.
Stupidity and evilness should not be confused. Rest I agree with everyone else.😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
#44
Fantastic Post
It's giving me now power to Tolerate Foolish Swara's Mahaaanata

Hope Sanskar Starts To Ignore Her
Then she will realise his value

Thanks For Fantastic Post
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Viji, I am glad to read this post from you! I have seen quite a few positive posts on the forum after the initial angst...I have put in my bit as well. Do read and tell me what you feel.

I must admit I was very upset after the episode but thinking it over, I am feeling positive about the whole situation. So cheers! 🤗
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Viji dear🤗 much needed post
Thankyou very much dearie
S disappointed with swara .. bt wanted to give her chance of doubt...as she has trust issues.
Many put their views...very happy for the positivity...
Love swasan😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I was not much bothered by what Swara did.As she said she would have thought the same of anyone else.
She is still not at the same place where Sanskaar is regarding them.It will take her time..I can wait.

As our SANSKAARI elders tell "sabr ka phal meetha hota hai".So I think it will be very sweet when swasan happens.

So I ask my fellow swasanians to not lose heart or to blame Swara..she will reach the destination (i.e swasan) in her own way .there will be heart pains ,heart break but it will be momentary and when swasan happens everything will be alright.

As Saskar said if and when she falls I will be with her.😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hey Viji😊

So there's a lot of mixed reactions on this whole trust issue. Frankly speaking I'm not really upset with Swara and probably because I kind of expected this apparent lack of trust from her. After watching the day before yesterday's epi nobody needed to guess the next step that Swara would take. It was pretty obvious. Swara is at best delusional. She claims to understand Sanskar and his emotions merely by looking in to his eyes. She knows that sometimes Sanskars words are said just to appease someone but the truth is usually hidden in his eyes. So why did she fail to notice that he looked away from her when he answered her question about the port receipt. A constant thing with Swara is that her judgement is always wrong. She believes the wrong people, puts her faith in the wrong hands and yet always misjudges the one person who is right. For some one who has been twice betrayed by her own family member would surely be more wary but such experiences also teaches one to have a better sense and understanding on whom to trust.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: moonstonespirit

Hi Viji 🤗

I'm annoyed at Swara's lack of trust. But then again Swara was never the one for reading between the lines. She takes people for their face value and believes what she sees. It is going to cost her a lot but she needs to undergo this phase to gain her hold.

But a little part of me is hoping to see a flip (I know, wishful thinking... but its them). Swara's character sketch has kind of deteriorated and CVs need to give her a victory to bring her upto the mark. I really hate it when the FL are turned dumb to sell some dramatic crap. How I wish they would construct the tracks keeping in mind the characterizations instead of tweaking with the characters to suit the plot.

Cheers to hoping!!



Hi Raksha

I wanted to respond to your reply in a bit of detail from my laptop. 😊 I completely agree with you, Swara is not shown as a type of person who would analyze anything too deeply, reading between the lines, as you put it. She believes stuff which is told to her, laid out in front of her. Maybe that's a weakness, but its that same cheery optimism, that sunny nature that brought Sanskaar out of that morass of hatred and bitterness in which he'd buried himself.

I'm not holding her present lack of full trust in Sanskaar against her--too much, at least---because I can kind of see, how she would be wary of trusting someone absolutely again. She has got burnt so many times by trusting her own flesh and blood, and got betrayed, time and again, by her father and her sister. Not to mention that complete loser of an ex fiance, whose name I don't even feel like taking! 😛

As I was saying in my reply to Saku, trust in any relationship, takes time to evolve. Be it a friendship, a love or a marital relationship. Quite often, the partners involved proceed in developing this feeling of trust, at different paces. It doesn't make the person who's slower to trust, automatically a bad person. In the present instance, I would definitely say Swara's lack of belief in Sanskaar was inexcusable, given how implicitly he trusts her, but it definitely was not unpardonable.

One last point I did want to mention was, that Swara perhaps felt this way, knowing how much Sanskaar feels for her. She knows that he reacts aggressively against anyone who threatens people or things he holds very dear to him. And Ragini had certainly pushed all the wrong buttons, by maligning Swara. Knowing Sanskaar's policy of the ends justifying the means, Swara probably put 2 and 2 together to make 22, and decided Sanskaar kidnapped Ragini in retaliation! The only thing is, when Sanskaar told her that her lack of trust was wounding him deeply, and that he would never doubt her in similar circumstances, she ought to have realized that he hadn't done it.

But oh well, we know Swara is kinda slow on the uptake! She probably needs her time to come to terms with what she feels for Sanskaar, and I do feel once she realizes what a big mistake she made, she's going to repent like crazy. She's going to recollect that hurt and broken look on Sanskaar's face, and its literally going to make her bleed. I do hope the CVs handle that track sensitively.

I would love to agree with you, that this track is more of a "fake MU" being shown by Swara to smoke out the real kidnapper, but sadly, I don't think it's going to be shown that way. Swara simply isn't being shown as being so canny now, unfortunately. She's been dumbed down considerably, from the beginning of the serial.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: bloomnskyrules

Exactly! This post was much needed so thank you for this! I am angry at Swara but I was expecting this; after all what else can you expect from someone who forgave the sister that tried to kill her and an ex who called her characterless?

With regard to trust: our Swara has still not reached that stage of unconditional love yet and for her, right now, her sister and parents are the most important people in her life and everyone else goes to the wayside. This MU was much needed for her feelings to progress!



Hey Vyshu...🤗

Yeah I do agree with you that Swara and Sanskaar are not at the same place, at present, in their relationship. Sanskaar is head over heels in love with her, and trusts her implicitly. Swara, on the other hand, is yet to realize the depth of her own emotions for him. She still deludes herself that she feels for him as a "best friend". 😛

Trust in any relationship, takes time to evolve, and sometimes the parties involved proceed through it at different paces. One person does sometimes develop that trust slower than the other, it doesn't mean that they are bad or a poor partner. It may mean that they are frustrating, misguided and dense, sure! 😛 I do feel Swara is all of these things. But surely, to cast her as the villain of the piece, is extreme.

I'm willing to cut her some slack for one main reason: the betrayal of trust she's encountered so many times, from her father, her sister, her ex fiance. It would be difficult for her to trust someone unconditionally again. She'll get there, am sure she's going to soon be s deeply, unconditionally in love with Sanskaar, as much, or dare I say even a tad more than he feels for her? Because she will realize just how much he did for her, and that realization of the pain she put him through, will turn her into a complete deewani for Sanskaar's love. 😉

But I do expect and hope that the CVs will show this realization, her pining for Sanskaar, and resolve to win back his trust, in a sensitive manner, If they rush through that track, I would be majorly bugged!

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