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Posted: 10 years ago
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if sangini happens then i see their equation as ARNAV-KHUSHI of iss pyar ko kya naam du where arnav was strong shrewd business man who doesnot believe in trusting people, luv & emotions & khushi who was full of life does believe in luv & emotions. arnav was deeply hurt person.khushi mostly was able to stop arnav cos she herself was strong character & had a brain of her own. khushi made arnav again trust people,emotions & luv & khushi with her strong believes healed arnav , in sanskaar case also he is deeply hurt may be now has some trust issue also but i not seeing ragini to be the person who can heal sanskar or make him believe in trusting people.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

as i heard many time people saying swara can handle laksh which i agree but i disagree that ragini cant handle him if ragini can handle sanskaar then difinately she can handle laksh impulsive & immature behaviour, ragini is definately strong individual but not as strong that can handle sanskaar yes , the sanskaar she handled was insaane not this one who is a shrewd business man.

this sanskaarr is full on revenge mode & the person i think can handle sanskaar or control him is dp or swaara.



I think handling sanskaar and handling laksh is very different. I think just because Snacker is being shown as a very smart antihero, everyone is presuming that his vices are the same as lakshya's. That's not the case. Lakshya's vice is his impulsiveness which results from years of a very carefree living. Snacker hasn't had that privilege. He's been planning for 5 years, this indicates he's anything but impulsive. Lakshya's vice is his guarded life, he's lead a blessedly secured life and that reflects in how simple he thinks things are. His dadi dida milaap plan would've never worked out as well as it did if dadi hadn't found out about everything. There was too much bad blood to be put aside so easily. He's not street smart enough to look through the facade of things easily. Although he likes to think he is. 😆 Whereas Snacker made it on his own. He fought the whole world to survive. Not being street smart is not his vice. Lakshya is immature. His reactions are like a kid- simple and quite transparent. He's not guarded as he's not experienced as much of a plethora of emotions as the other characters. Snacker (with the exception of wanting to avenge his teen kid brother, but I'll wait on that for some confirmation) is clearly atleast not emotionally immature. He has experienced a great loss and tragedy. He has experienced disappointment and dejection. Thus, handling of Laksh and handling of the cunning villain Snacker is not the same! Whilst Laksh needs a guide and a philosopher in his life, a friend who understands his intentions and helps him execute his visions. Someone to steady him when he falters and be his rock in rocky times. Ragini as of now isn't that person and in order to hold that stern voice she'd need to do a complete 180 of her personality. That has nothing to do with her strength of character, she can stand up for what she thinks is right and hold her own and Laksh knows that. It's a matter of character. Swara is a lovable nag and laksh needs a lovable nag. Thus swara can handle him. In contrast Snacker doesnt really need someone to steady him, he doesn't need someone to help him stay grounded, you can't really handle such a deeply wounded character or really spoil his plans permanently by being smart mouthed and selfrighteous (I'm saying that and I LOVE swara). He needs someone to hold his hand and pull him towards the light, with affection and patience. The only growing Ragini will need to do for Snacker is learn how to speak her mind and gain some presence of mind. Everything else she has. Swara herself isn't very good with vulnerability and being nurturing. She has too little patience and too little understanding of the grey areas of life. Her thought process is very defined. The only person she ever breaks down infront of is Laksh cos for everyone else she wipes their tears. I don't think she can handle Snacker. Handling is very different for different people, it's not a matter of strength of voice but an issue of what you need to be as a person in order to handle the opponent. and to presume that just because Ragini isn't the right person to handle Laksh that she can't handle Snacker or that she's can handle Laksh if she can handle Snacker is not really a very sound presumption to make. Non of the characters are really like each other. You just have to look past the surface.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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every person has different way 2 see the situation as u say that swara will take 180 degree change to handle sanskaar& she can't handle sanskaar but ragini can but in my views to handle sanskaar ragini has 2 take 360 degree change& i dont think cvs will give ragini's character a 360 degree change after the accident , occasionally strength will not help her 2 handle sanskaar . the person who was luving person is buried very deep in this new sanskaar& do u think ragini will spoil his plans & sanskaar will sit quite holding ragini's dupatta really no dear he will crush her further & may damage her beyond repair.the guy is in revenge mode & will not let anyone spoil his plans or in other words he is a powerful toofan who can be stopped with something very strong not
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Posted: 10 years ago
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every person has different way 2 see the situation as u say that swara will take 180 degree change to handle sanskaar& she can't handle sanskaar but ragini can but in my views to handle sanskaar ragini has 2 take 360 degree change& i dont think cvs will give ragini's character a 360 degree change after the accident , occasionally strength will not help her 2 handle sanskaar . the person who was luving person is buried very deep in this new sanskaar& do u think ragini will spoil his plans & sanskaar will sit quite holding ragini's dupatta really no dear he will crush her further & may damage her beyond repair.the guy is in revenge mode & will not let anyone spoil his plans or in other words he is a powerful toofan who can be stopped with something very strong not any thing sober or mild. I'm my views sanskaar is a too strong & layered character 4 ragini . if sanskaar has 2 match ragini he has mellow down which I don't think going 2 happen anytime soon. swara is a very strong character in compared 2 ragini if sanskaar tries 2 crush swara she will not take it & throw it back on sanskaar. I my self had some incidents which in which I had breakdown but not in front of my family but in front of my frnds bcoz I share that bond with them, they will be my supporter & I can rely on them in my hour of need.dealing with laksh will be easier 4 ragini than sanskaar. as u swarya fan & I m ragya fan we will support our couple only but in real life there r different type of couple there kind of swarya , ragya couples also. sorry if I sound rude.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

every person has different way 2 see the situation as u say that swara will take 180 degree change to handle sanskaar& she can't handle sanskaar but ragini can but in my views to handle sanskaar ragini has 2 take 360 degree change& i dont think cvs will give ragini's character a 360 degree change after the accident , occasionally strength will not help her 2 handle sanskaar . the person who was luving person is buried very deep in this new sanskaar& do u think ragini will spoil his plans & sanskaar will sit quite holding ragini's dupatta really no dear he will crush her further & may damage her beyond repair.the guy is in revenge mode & will not let anyone spoil his plans or in other words he is a powerful toofan who can be stopped with something very strong not any thing sober or mild. I'm my views sanskaar is a too strong & layered character 4 ragini . if sanskaar has 2 match ragini he has mellow down which I don't think going 2 happen anytime soon. swara is a very strong character in compared 2 ragini if sanskaar tries 2 crush swara she will not take it & throw it back on sanskaar. I my self had some incidents which in which I had breakdown but not in front of my family but in front of my frnds bcoz I share that bond with them, they will be my supporter & I can rely on them in my hour of need.dealing with laksh will be easier 4 ragini than sanskaar. as u swarya fan & I m ragya fan we will support our couple only but in real life there r different type of couple there kind of swarya , ragya couples also. sorry if I sound rude.



No deepika you don't sound rude. And Ofcourse we have our biases but at the end of the day a rational argument is what we're here for. Have you ever heard about the bamboo and the tree? A proud tree is bigger stronger bolder and more rooted than any bamboo. It boasts to a woodcutter- man! cutting a bamboo with an axe, it'll take you not an hour. but try cutting me. it'll take you a very long time. A daunting task for any man. Then a storm comes, the great tree with its unmovable pride again says, oh your such a great storm, but I'm a powerful grand tree, you can't even bend me. Enraged, the storm turns so vicious that the great tree doesn't only bend but it breaks. Whilst celebrating its victory the storm notices, that it's blown everything else away in its rage but what still stands, is the bamboo tree. It glides to the direction of the wind but doesn't break. After a while, the great storm is forced to give in to the patience of the bamboo and it becomes a nurturing rain. I believe Ragini is like that bamboo. She's not weak and fragile like you believe her to be. Laksh is like that woodcutter- a man not a great force of nature, it hurts her self worth which she measures in terms of whether she can get the approval of the boy her family set her up with or not. but sanskaar is the storm that will have to bend in front of the bamboo's patience. As you said like Arnaav did infront of khushi. On a side note Arnav was the foxiest man to be on tv ever. But back to the topic, swara is a great tree unbending and relentless in its strength overshadowing the bamboo at all times except for when in confrontation to the storm. That bamboo is Ragini. Soft nurturing malleable but unrelenting in its patience. Ragini is not weaker than Swara, they're strong in different ways. we have been shown glimpses of that. But if that's not the case then I guess they should just rename this Swara and be done.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

every person has different way 2 see the situation as u say that swara will take 180 degree change to handle sanskaar& she can't handle sanskaar but ragini can but in my views to handle sanskaar ragini has 2 take 360 degree change& i dont think cvs will give ragini's character a 360 degree change after the accident , occasionally strength will not help her 2 handle sanskaar . the person who was luving person is buried very deep in this new sanskaar& do u think ragini will spoil his plans & sanskaar will sit quite holding ragini's dupatta really no dear he will crush her further & may damage her beyond repair.the guy is in revenge mode & will not let anyone spoil his plans or in other words he is a powerful toofan who can be stopped with something very strong not any thing sober or mild. I'm my views sanskaar is a too strong & layered character 4 ragini . if sanskaar has 2 match ragini he has mellow down which I don't think going 2 happen anytime soon. swara is a very strong character in compared 2 ragini if sanskaar tries 2 crush swara she will not take it & throw it back on sanskaar. I my self had some incidents which in which I had breakdown but not in front of my family but in front of my frnds bcoz I share that bond with them, they will be my supporter & I can rely on them in my hour of need.dealing with laksh will be easier 4 ragini than sanskaar. as u swarya fan & I m ragya fan we will support our couple only but in real life there r different type of couple there kind of swarya , ragya couples also. sorry if I sound rude.


I completely agree...Well in order to get Sanskaar-Ragini together, CVs will have to show a big twist. Same with Lakshya-Swara...As of now, we are not aware of any romantic feelings in Swara's heart for anybody and even we are not aware of the mystery lady/girl/boy/man 😆 in the picture kept by Sanskaar... Infact we even don't know whether that person is really the lover of Sanskaar or not... So at this point, we can only make speculations...

Agree Ragini has a lot of patience as compared to Swara and she has shown occasional display of strength but while dealing with Sanskaar, she will have to be consistently strong, else as mentioned by my 1st post on this topic thread, Sanskaar is going to retaliate big time, push her back and crush her further.
On comparing Sanskaar-Ragini to Arnav-Khushi (of Iss Pyaar ko Kya Naam Doon): I would say Arnav was shrewd, had trust issues & was ruthless towards people he didn't like but same time Khushi was a chirpy, bubbly girl and with a smart attitude. She gave it back to Arnav in her own way and on many occasions, I have seen Khushi losing patience which relates her more with Swara than Ragini here (completely my opinion!).
Here Sanskaar is full-on vindictive mode from the start, is being sneaky (unlike Arnav) while Ragini is a sweet, kinda-naive girl with a lot of patience. Apart from being strong consistently, she will have to show smartness as well to tackle and foil Sanskaar's plans which I don't see unless she is going to hit her head pretty hard during the accident and waking up as 'different' Ragini.

So far, she is just the collateral damage for Sanskaar on his mission to ruin DP & Lakshya.
Sanskaar has not come across the 'real' Swara so far (what we have seen) apart from Ragini's sister and the object of Lakshya's one-sided love. He is going to use Swara big-time to give pain to Lakshya but if he starts messing with her and the 'real' Swara sees through it, he is going for the ride of his life...😆😆😆

Lakshya too needs a big lesson in his life that your life partner should not be necessarily what you have imagined to have a better married life. Also you cannot get everything by just being a crybaby or attempting suicide.
I don't know what CVs have planned for these 4 leads but before Swara decides anything, Lakshya needs to be taught these lessons nicely.😉
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: rittu_deep



I completely agree...Well in order to get Sanskaar-Ragini together, CVs will have to show a big twist. Same with Lakshya-Swara...As of now, we are not aware of any romantic feelings in Swara's heart for anybody and even we are not aware of the mystery lady/girl/boy/man😆in the picture kept by Sanskaar... Infact we even don't know whether that person is really the lover of Sanskaar or not... So at this point, we can only make speculations...

Agree Ragini has a lot of patience as compared to Swara and she has shown occasional display of strength but while dealing with Sanskaar, she will have to be consistently strong, else as mentioned by my 1st post on this topic thread, Sanskaar is going to retaliate big time, push her back and crush her further.
On comparing Sanskaar-Ragini to Arnav-Khushi (of Iss Pyaar ko Kya Naam Doon): I would say Arnav was shrewd, had trust issues & was ruthless towards people he didn't like but same time Khushi was a chirpy, bubbly girl and with a smart attitude. She gave it back to Arnav in her own way and on many occasions, I have seen Khushi losing patience which relates her more with Swara than Ragini here (completely my opinion!).
Here Sanskaar is full-on vindictive mode from the start, is being sneaky (unlike Arnav) while Ragini is a sweet, kinda-naive girl with a lot of patience. Apart from being strong consistently, she will have to show smartness as well to tackle and foil Sanskaar's plans which I don't see unless she is going to hit her head pretty hard during the accident and waking up as 'different' Ragini.

So far, she is just the collateral damage for Sanskaar on his mission to ruin DP & Lakshya.
Sanskaar has not come across the 'real' Swara so far (what we have seen) apart from Ragini's sister and the object of Lakshya's one-sided love. He is going to use Swara big-time to give pain to Lakshya but if he starts messing with her and the 'real' Swara sees through it, he is going for the ride of his life...😆😆😆

Lakshya too needs a big lesson in his life that your life partner should not be necessarily what you have imagined to have a better married life. Also you cannot get everything by just being a crybaby or attempting suicide.
I don't know what CVs have planned for these 4 leads but before Swara decides anything, Lakshya needs to be taught these lessons nicely.😉



I do agree about laksh being a baby with the whole suicide thing, but I just don't understand, why can't your life partner be the kind of person you envision for yourself? Why is that such a crime that he needs to be taught that as a lesson? If he wanted to marry an alcoholic or drug addict rude conceited party girl then I'd be like ok you need to readjust that idea in your head. But his vision of a life partner is quite normal and swara fits in in some respects but not necessarily all. And he didn't fall in love thinking, oh swara is exactly what I want in life so I love her? No! He fell unknowingly and reluctantly. He's known swara for a long time, and he's known Ragini. If he fell for swara then why does he need to be taught a lesson for not falling for Ragini? It's quite a normal thing. If we went out to teach every boy a lesson for falling for one girl over the other, then we'd probably have to beat up every guy alive. And this isn't like a spoilt kid who shouldn't get his preferred toy because he gets everything he wants too easily. Your disregarding a persons freedom of choice. If swara doesn't choose him then fine but how does that imply that then Ragini is the best choice for him? There are 1000s of other girls like swara. Laksh would be better of marrying that female friend of his. You think that ragya are both like children and yet you think they should be with each other. That's like putting two kids together and telling them to start a family. And we don't know anything about sanskaar, and why would swara, if she doesn't love laksh go about stopping sanskaar?!? Did she take thekedari of the maheshwaris? And also im pretty sure Ragini isn't stupid. She's delusional but not stupid. She could sense swarya before laksh even knew. I feel like once her delusions are shattered she will emerge stronger but if she's going to stagnate like now forever, then I don't think she should be with anyone, she then should be put in a glass cage somewhere where no one can hurt the fragile doll. And the viewers won't even notice that she's gone.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Tejaswiniwenham...hats off. You did a commendable job. I loved all of your comments...I completely agree with you.
I myself would prefer SanGini over RagYa anyday...I sincerely hope CVs don't push lakshya towards ragini forcefully...I am sick and tired of the unrequited love/marrying some one who loves another track...
I hate seeing the same situations over and over again...
hopefully ragini will move on from lakshya..., she needs to get over this infatuation.
If she herself backs out of this 'Rishta' then this will be good for her...

I myself hail from a very strict traditional family...so I can somewhat relate to raginis character. Especially since I lost my mother at a young age too...
I really sympathize with the poor girl. She needs someone to help her come out of her shell...and that someone doesn't have to be a love interest either.
I wish Swara could be that person or even sharmishtha...
I believe getting together with lakshya will be bad for raginis character development. Poor girl will always suffer from insecurities, self-image issues and lack in self esteem.
I for one will never marry a guy who doesn't want me...it will only make me doubt myself...I would feel like I am imposing on someone...I will feel like a burden.
and even if by some miracle lakshya does fall for ragini then, I am quite sure it will a very long, hard and grueling process...with too much angst and suffering.
Someone wise once told me...never marry a person who doesn't love you expecting them to love you someday. It will only bring you heartache. Marry someone who loves you...this theory is especially applicable to females. Since a woman's heart is more adaptable and women can learn to love relatively easier than men.
Hopefully I didn't offend anyone with my comment. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I was only sharing mine.
I like raginis character a lot. Hopefully the CVs will utilize her properly. I am tired of the clich sister rivalry. It has been done and rehashed one too many times
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I can't see in future lakshya avoiding ragini after forcefull marriage n ragini being the good wife trying to win his heart trying to be modern with the help of swara n slowly lakshya falling for her no wayyy that will be the most ghisa phita storyyy ragya will be super boring to watch than... M quiting for sure but yeah swara sanskaar takker will surely interesting... But still wishing for swarya
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Smart TM 😛 swara Ki dil Mei kya hai 😆 cvs hav not shown til now 😆

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