The devil in the details.||discussion. - Page 3

Originally posted by: .annihilation.

Nothing nice? OMG you didn't like it? 🥺 Nice or not, I want to know what is that you think about the episode?

Originally posted by: ~*sindhu*~

The show is sucked out of logic, emotions and canon story line. Carver is a genius.

You have always had a different take on the show and I'm glad to read that you still make as much as sense as you did before. I admit I probably got so excited with something happening that I didn't look at it though this lens.

I have no idea what I think or why I think so anymore. The fact that Dean walked down a freaking staircase to reach hell. Rest in peace the age old days of hells gate . Even Simar walking down patal lok made more sense to me at this point.

I get that, it gets really hard to understand this show at times. Okay, that Simar joke cracked me up. 🤣 I'll try and reason it with you to the best of what I understand how it is and why it is so. Not 'justifying' because there's no way one can justify stupidity, just reasoning.

It genuinely bothers me that u can see reapers with naked eyes but to actually find a reaper to be hells gatekeeper.. yup reapers have no job these days. Blame it on Dean for killing their boss. But Dean having no memory or emotions regarding his time in hell? Next Carver will send him to purgatory to play hide and seek with the monsters and he will be fine. Because apparently hell is a picnic spot.

The thing is, no human, no creature and no entity on Supernatural is the same as it used to be seasons ago. With such progression and changes in storyline, every character has got affected, more or less. Remind me please, who can see reapers? People who have witnessed death, right? 🤔 I'm not sure if that's right but if it is, then, both Sam and Dean being able to see Billie with naked eyes makes sense. Crowley being able to work with reapers would be a different thing altogether as he's the King of Hell and Death's dead. As told by Billie herself, they're probably just trying to get done whatever job there is to do because Amara threaten's every species existence.

The best part of everything. A thousand year old angel who was trained and taught to fight the devil got manipulated by lucifer instead of the thirty year old human. I mean this just takes the cake. I admit I understand that writers have a hard time writing his character into the story but to delete his character by turning him into the dumbest character of all time? That too after he let the leviathans out? There is not even variations to the mistakes he makes. Same thing again and again. I still don't get why the hell did he agree. How did he fix anything? What was the plan? Did he even had a plan or just plain stupid impulse. But I have to give it to the writers. They finally found a way to continue a story without writing Cas. Well atleast for few epis. They must have promoted the guy who came up with the idea of replacing Cas with Lucifer and still having Misha. Their job is done and fandom can't complain.win win.But I m glad for Misha though. He will have some interesting storyline finally. The man wasted a lot of time for this incompetent bunch of idiots.

At first I thought Castiel's move of letting Lucifer in stemmed from the conversation he had with Ambriel, about them being expendable and not being able to do anything significant. But on second thoughts, I don't understand what Amara's message meant. 'I am coming'. Who was that message meant for and what did it mean? Why did Dean think if its a promise when it seemed more of a warning? Could it be that Amara wanted Lucifer out as God wasn't responding to her calls? How did she know where to send Cas to? I think the whole play of it has something to do with her other than Cas just taking a stupid decision on impulse. I could very well be wrong though.

I don't think any character in such a situation takes into account the mistakes they have made before he/she does something on impulse. Dean killed Death himself. Made sense? Nope. Did he think about the stupid moves he's made before? Nope. What was the result? More mess. Dean, Sam, Cas, they're all about doing what comes to their heads first in the moment of desperation, urgency and need. They're all always, specifically, Sam and Dean swinging between saving each other to saving the world. They act first, deal with the consequences later. So, from where I see it, what Cas did wasn't out of character. Not wise definitely, though.

But yes, the writers found a way to have Misha do something on the show and not as Cas. While Cas may go MIA for a while, I'm actually glad for Misha because like you said, the guy deserved to do something on the show than just hang around.

And two angels note TWO angels and not one angel in a human body. Lucifer barely managed with Nick.. isn't this vessel supposed to explode? If he could just grab any freaking body what was the whole damn five seasons about? I felt like crying when they destroyed the whole freaking 5 seasons of story building in just one epi itself . There is no emotional connect to it. Its to a point where there won't be any nostalgia left either because they are destroying the past..

That's one thing we all are trying to figure out. Jimmy's vessel, technically, should have been exploded by now because its damaged enough already and then two angels residing in together doesn't quite explain HOW. Sam was Lucifer's true vessel and he will remain so. I guess Lucifer was just taking what he got. Better out than stuck inside. I'm hoping they'll address and answer this question in the coming episodes. If they don't and just continue like that, they'll obviously face a lot of flak.

I'd be outraged too if anything of that happens. But right now, I have a feeling that they're heading in a positive direction. Basically, I'm just trying to make sense of whatever there is. (Or may be my judgement is clouded by my love for the show. 🤔)

p.s: Sorry for being a downer here

Don't be sorry, mann. I'm glad you let it out because your take on it as important as any other fan's. It doesn't matter if its on the upside or the downside. Sooner or later, it will make sense to you (and to all of us), I hope. 😳 Just hang in there, buddy! 🤗

Originally posted by: .annihilation.