SSEL - a tale of selfishness vs selflessness

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Firstly a note to Apu and to all who have commented in her post - brilliant 👏👏👏 you guys have penned your thoughts really well.
I couldn't watch Saturday's episode nor be active int the forum since few days as am stuck with guests. But somehow I took time out to read members take on the episode...and was disappointed with CV's.

Am sure most of you like me started watching SSEL as to how CV' were going to handle this color discrimination in our society which has plagued our people for decades. Education has not refined our society in any way...sad to say so but I feel it's the truth. Coming to SSEL, well I loved Suhani's character...saw myself in her. CV's had shaped this character so well and you couldn't help but fall in love with her. And then Yuvraj too...the brash, arrogant young man who had a typical teenager's idea of beauty and love. But then, Suhani entered his life and I expected him to evolve, learn the value of a person, judge a person by their personality, respect them for who they are and not how they appear. Was confident he'll change to a better humane. But no such thing happened...CV's brought in Soumya and held a mirror to Yuvraj to compare for himself the difference between outer beauty and inner beauty...and he understood. But his upbringing is so strong and deep rooted that his mind refused to accept the inner beauty...he just acknowledged it, but never accepted. Like fools we too failed to see his rigidness. Few concerned words from him and we mistook it for love and raised our hopes. But none of it turned fruitful so far.

And then we also imagined a thousand scenes when Suhani would learn the truth and what all could happen...must give it to CV's none of our predictions turned out true...instead they did something which we hadn't even thought of ever.

Suhani the selfless female, who was once strong, carefree with an infectious smile, positive attitude was turned to a BM maid...her mrng and night started and ended doing chores for them to win a place in their heart. This is the fate of many women in our society...no matter how educated you are, or how worthy you are...your life at times is at the mercy of such in-laws. They decide and dictate your life depending on how well you fit into their frame...they never value what you are, but how profitable you'll be to them all.
Marriage is a gamble...a deal. If the deal's worth it your life is bearable...else misery keeps knocking every other day. You need to keep them all happy...and your happiness matters to none. This I have witnessed in my own circle of relations and friends. And all in-laws are highly educated ppl who have held good positions in their careers and are financially very well off too. A DIL can never be the daughter and MIL can never be a mother ( again a personal opinion).

Pratima for whom I had high respect in the show lost it all on Saturday. After witnessing what all Suhani had been through at the hands of dadi and her son...she had no regrets whatsoever for making a girl's life so miserable. She became so selfish in her son's love that inspite of knowing that he had feelings for another girl and will never accept this girl (as she aint fair) she went ahead and choose her. What the hell was she thinking...?? She failed as a mother to give her son/children proper ethics and values of life and wants a third person to do so at the cost of her life...this selfishness is difficult to digest and is unforgivable. She had suffered enough at her MIL's hands for so many yrs and yet she chose Suhani, knowing very well what all she has to endure. How could she be so insensitive...?? She could have requested Suhani to put some sense in her son as friend too...but why marriage only? She recognized Suhani's free spirit attitude and still let ppl cut her wings...?? Really sickening...if you ask me.

Like Apu said in her post...Suhani is lonely. Even her father cheated her...his love for her was so blind and shallow, that he forced Yuvraj to sacrifice his life for his daughter. He too is a selfish person just like Pratima. He thought her daughter is like a sunshine...she'll go and brighten ppl at BM...didn't think this might burn her in the process?

As of now am more angry and hurt by Pankaj and Pratima than am with dadi. I feel they betrayed Suhani more...of well Soumay too. Each, for their own gain played 'Lord Brahma" (God of Destiny in Hindu mythology) in Suhani and Yuvraj's life.

And coming to Yuvraj...sorry many of you may get angry or hurt...but it's my POV. After listening to Pratima...I don't blame Yuvraj much. Sure he has angered us all since past few days/weeks with his insensitive actions...but tell me one thing gurls - If you were forced to live with a person for whom you have no feelings for...would you have been any different from Yuvraj?
The guy has done as much as possible as a husband and a son...he has expressed his concern and respect for Suhani few times, stood by her and also supported her. He has always been honest and clear about his feelings for Suhani with Sharad and Pratima. Yet these two never stopped playing cupid in his life...either love happens or it doesn't. It has to come from within...it cannot be forced, and ShaTima were doing just that. Yuvraj values Suhani...and only time can convert this value and respect for her into love. So Yuvanians...let us stop thrashing Yuvraj for now...and give him some more time to realize. As girls we realize the value our mothers when we marry and go to another house...till then we take her love and concern for granted, so also Yuvraj. He knows not every pretty face makes a person beautiful (snaky) and also knows his dadi is doing things to hurt Suhani...atleast knowing Suhani for so many months he's learnt that much, he trusts Suhani more than his dadi...for this at least he deserves some credit.

And why was Pankaj angry at Yuvraj...?? He forced...sorry blackmailed him to marry his daughter when Yuvraj had gone to tell the truth...and now he is angry..?? So he expected him to forget the blackmail and live happily...?? Yuvraj may have forgiven him for the blackmail but not forgotten...forget Yuvraj, even Pankaj himself has not forgotten his blackmail. Being a father he failed in his duty...and hence I feel he has no right to show his anger at Yuvraj.

Note: Sorry for the long post...a thought just occurred and I put it all down. Wanted to think from Yuvraj's POV too...since am one among the foremost to have blasted him many times.

No idea what is scheming in his head...but I do hope it gets sorted out soon. CV's themselves have no idea as to how to project Yuvraj's character...by keeping him mute and inactive they are not evoking audience's sympathy nor empathy. And now they have turned their attention towards Suhani - by making her stay in BM even after learning the truth, viewer's seem to be losing interest, respect and love for this character gradually. I hope CV's rectify their mistake or if it's intentional - then they have to reveal the plan soon else TRP's will hit rock bottom soon for sure.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Beautiful post, Elita. Supposed to be working now *winks shame-facedly* so will reply later.
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A brilliant post, Eli! ⭐️ Thanks so much! 🤗

What particularly spoke to me was how you described what women in our society go through after marriage, where a ton of expectations are foisted on them, but no empathy. 😭

Am sure most of you like me started watching SSEL as to how CV' were going to handle this color discrimination in our society which has plagued our people for decades. Education has not refined our society in any way...sad to say so but I feel it's the truth.

Yes, I watched it for the same reason. Its first promo was so intriguing and brought up an issue that afflicts many across our country. However, we have only been disappointed, because this issue has become lost in the Suhani vs Phateechars slugfest.
Coming to Suhani, I feel very sorry for her, because at this point, other than Bhavna, I feel there is no one who cares for her and can guide her properly. I won't include Pankaj and Lata in this list, because they have very regressive attitudes on how a woman should behave with her in-laws. She is truly alone. It saddens me, that a bright spark of life like her, has been all but snuffed out by a few people who choose to degrade and humiliate her. Suhani comes from a traditional set up, and perhaps, I notice her oppression more, because I come from a liberal family. My mother would never give me the kind of bullshit advice Lata gives her and ask me to tolerate people like Dadi and her Phateechars. 😡

The best part of this post was how you said that everyone has played Lord Brahma in Suhani's life. They have taken away the power to decide on her OWN life from her and molded her fate to their liking. 😭

Pratima, like all the others, has used Suhani too. It's the bitter truth that we all have to accept. This line sums it all up-

She recognized Suhani's free spirit attitude and still let ppl cut her wings...?? Really sickening...if you ask me.

She thought Suhani was the solution to all of the Birlas' problems, particularly Yuvraj's attitude, and expected her to magically breathe life into BH. She never thought about how Suhani would survive in the hellhole that is BH. She threw Suhani into a burning cauldron of viciousness, hoping she would emerge victorious, and do what Pratima and Sharad couldn't do all these years.

As for Yuvraj, I agree with you that what Pankaj and even Pratima did to him was abhorrent. In fact, I had made a poll about how many were in favour of YuvAni's forced marriage and I voted for a 'no'. I feel what happened to him was gross injustice, because no matter how disgusting his beliefs were, no one should force a life-changing decision like marriage on someone. 👎🏼 I don't have a problem with his initial attitude and how he took the marriage.
My criticism of him began when he joined ShaTima in lying to Suhani, keeping her in the dark, while not wanting to take their marriage forward. 😲I also have a huge problem with how he let Dadi and her goons torment Suhani in front of him, without saying a word. He let Dadi actively pick away at Suhani's self-esteem and dignity, while standing mute. In today's world, nobody would let someone speak to their friend (won't say wife) like that. He wanted to remain in neutral and not take any decision regarding the future of his relationship with Suhani, knowing it would lead to unhappiness for her. He's a Birla too, and all the Birlas have a habit of brushing things under the carpet and pretending problems don't exist, instead of dealing with them. I think that was a mistake he made and it was very unfair to Suhani.

As for SSEL, I doubt things will ever improve and looking at their writing, I feel they are not equipped to deal with all these serious issues maturely. They can only come up with cliched TRP-fetching slugfests and nothing more. These CVs aren't capable of dealing with colorism, prejudice and discrimination, unfortunately.
Edited by clarity - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Elita



Education has not refined our society in any way...sad to say so but I feel it's the truth.

And then Yuvraj too...the brash, arrogant young man who had a typical teenager's idea of beauty and love.

But his upbringing is so strong and deep rooted that his mind refused to accept the inner beauty...he just acknowledged it, but never accepted. Like fools we too failed to see his rigidness. Few concerned words from him and we mistook it for love and raised our hopes. But none of it turned fruitful so far.

This is the fate of many women in our society...no matter how educated you are, or how worthy you are...your life at times is at the mercy of such in-laws. They decide and dictate your life depending on how well you fit into their frame...they never value what you are, but how profitable you'll be to them all.

Marriage is a gamble...a deal. If the deal's worth it your life is bearable...else misery keeps knocking every other day. You need to keep them all happy...and your happiness matters to none. This I have witnessed in my own circle of relations and friends. And all in-laws are highly educated ppl who have held good positions in their careers and are financially very well off too. A DIL can never be the daughter and MIL can never be a mother ( again a personal opinion).

She could have requested Suhani to put some sense in her son as friend too...but why marriage only? She recognized Suhani's free spirit attitude and still let ppl cut her wings...?? Really sickening...if you ask me.

As of now am more angry and hurt by Pankaj and Pratima than am with dadi. I feel they betrayed Suhani more...of well Soumay too. Each, for their own gain played 'Lord Brahma" (God of Destiny in Hindu mythology) in Suhani and Yuvraj's life.

I don't blame Yuvraj much. Sure he has angered us all since past few days/weeks with his insensitive actions...but tell me one thing gurls - If you were forced to live with a person for whom you have no feelings for...would you have been any different from Yuvraj?

He has always been honest and clear about his feelings for Suhani with Sharad and Pratima. Yet these two never stopped playing cupid in his life...either love happens or it doesn't. It has to come from within...it cannot be forced, and ShaTima were doing just that.

Yuvraj values Suhani...and only time can convert this value and respect for her into love. he trusts Suhani more than his dadi...for this at least he deserves some credit.

Yuvraj may have forgiven him for the blackmail but not forgotten...forget Yuvraj, even Pankaj himself has not forgotten his blackmail. Being a father he failed in his duty...and hence I feel he has no right to show his anger at Yuvraj.


👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

Elita, seriously one big 🤗 for this post and specially the bits in bold.

You have said it all. This is the root of problems and it is a very REAL problem. I hope the creatives understand the sensitivity of the situation and deal it with maturity and understanding that it deserves. If they handle it well, it will truly become a remarkable show for addressing so many stereotypes!

I really hope creatives read your post and get an idea of what they are driving at and what they should do. This is a much more fascinating individual journey than a mere love story... a beautiful love story will make it more heart-rendering!

Once again, fantastic post! ⭐️
Edited by drummedup - 10 years ago
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Amazing post Eli...
Claps * Claps *
And a big hug 🤗
Agree with each and every word of your...
So true...
I really wish if CVs could read it...
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Great post the title says it all
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Originally posted by: clarity

A brilliant post, Eli! ⭐️

What particularly spoke to me was how you described what women in our society go through after marriage, where a ton of expectations are foisted on them, but no empathy. 😭

Am sure most of you like me started watching SSEL as to how CV' were going to handle this color discrimination in our society which has plagued our people for decades. Education has not refined our society in any way...sad to say so but I feel it's the truth.

Yes, I watched it for the same reason. Its first promo was so intriguing and brought up an issue that afflicts many across our country. However, we have only been disappointed, because this issue has become lost in the Suhani vs Phateechars slugfest.
Coming to Suhani, I feel very sorry for her, because at this point, other than Bhavna, I feel there is no one who cares for her and can guide her properly. I won't include Pankaj and Lata in this list, because they have very regressive attitudes on how a woman should behave with her in-laws. She is truly alone. It saddens me, that a bright spark of life like her, has been all but snuffed out by a few people who choose to degrade and humiliate her. Suhani comes from a traditional set up, and perhaps, I notice her oppression more, because I come from a liberal family. My mother would never give me the kind of bullshit advice Lata gives her and ask me to tolerate people like Dadi and her Phateechars. 😡

Pratima, like all the others, has used Suhani too. It's the bitter truth that we all have to accept. This line sums it all up-

She recognized Suhani's free spirit attitude and still let ppl cut her wings...?? Really sickening...if you ask me.

She thought Suhani was the solution to all of the Birlas' problems, particularly Yuvraj's attitude, and expected her to magically breathe life into BH. She never thought about how Suhani would survive in the hellhole that is BH. She threw Suhani into a burning cauldron of viciousness, hoping she would emerge victorious, and do what Pratima and Sharad couldn't do all these years.

As for Yuvraj, I agree with you that what Pankaj and even Pratima did to him was abhorrent. In fact, I had made a poll about how many were in favour of YuvAni's forced marriage and I voted for a 'no'. I feel what happened to him was gross injustice, because no matter how disgusting his beliefs were, no one should force a life-changing decision like marriage on someone. 👎🏼 I don't have a problem with his initial attitude and how he took the marriage.
My criticism of him began when he joined ShaTima in lying to Suhani, keeping her in the dark, while not wanting to take their marriage forward. 😲I also have a huge problem with how he let Dadi and her goons torment Suhani in front of him, without saying a word. He let Dadi actively pick away at Suhani's self-esteem and dignity, while standing mute. In today's world, nobody would let someone speak to their friend (won't say wife) like that. He wanted to remain in neutral and not take any decision regarding the future of his relationship with Suhani, knowing it would lead to unhappiness for her. He's a Birla too, and all the Birlas have a habit of brushing things under the carpet and pretending problems don't exist, instead of dealing with them. I think that was a mistake he made and it was very unfair to Suhani.

As for SSEL, I doubt things will ever improve and looking at their writing, I feel they are not equipped to deal with all these serious issues maturely. They can only come up with cliched TRP-fetching slugfests and nothing more. These CVs aren't capable of dealing with colorism, prejudice and discrimination.


Thanks Apu.

@ bold - Agree with you Apu. Nobody can blame Yuvraj...not Pratima, not Sharad not Pankaj, and not Lata...but only Suhani. He knew she was innocent in all this as was as much a victim as he was. And he was also aware how much she trusted and loved him...he should have been the first person to tell her the truth if he cared for her. Had truth come from Yuvraj...Suhani wouldn't have felt so betrayed and hurt. She's have understood and this should have had happened after Diwali or after snaky confession. Story would have been brilliant then...two people with different views of life forced to live together, bound in a sacred relationship with no escape...but to learn to cope and appreciate each other, depend on each other and then gradually learn to accept each other's presence in their lives and then fall in love gradually would have been awesome I feel.

Yuvraj is only Suhani's culprit and nobody else's...so none of them should point fingers at him...bcos I feel he's better than them atleast.

Coming to CV's they have drifted away from the theme they started off with and got into cat & mouse race...saas ya bahu...who wins for their stupid TRP's. Wish they had thought maturely and addresses topics such as color discrimination, women's marital issues - how today inspite of entering 21st century DILs are treated. Ppl in metros may have moved forward...but life for women in small towns and cities - even educated and working face so many issues. Through Suhani- a simple, fun loving girl like any of us they could have addressed all these. But no PH and channel want this drama more than creating awareness in society.

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Originally posted by: drummedup


👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

Elita, seriously one big 🤗 for this post and specially the bits in bold.

You have said it all. This is the root of problems and it is a very REAL problem. I hope the creatives understand the sensitivity of the situation and deal it with maturity and understanding that it deserves. If they handle it well, it will truly become a remarkable show for addressing so many stereotypes!

I really hope creatives read your post and get an idea of what they are driving at and what they should do. This is a much more fascinating individual journey than a mere love story... a beautiful love story will make it more heart-rendering!

Once again, fantastic post! ⭐️


Thanks drummedup 🤗.

@ bold - So true. I wish CV's get things right soon. I want to see Suhani's journey...a journey of every simple girl who faces rejection and failure and still lives with a smile and challenges life. I wanted her to dare ppl at BM and walk away with her head held high...I don't want to see her crumble and become all sorry, but strong and live life to it's fullest. I wanted CV's to put across a message to all...that no one is responsible for your sadness or happiness except you...your life is your's - ppl are welcome but don't depend so much on them that you feel lost and lonely when they exit. Every indvidual should hold the key to their life and not let others rule them.
Hmm...so many expectations but alas nothing is gonna be fulfilled. CV's ruined a beautiful story with their saas-bahu drama.
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Originally posted by: anita_m

Beautiful post, Elita. Supposed to be working now *winks shame-facedly* so will reply later.


Thanks Anita. Looking forward to your thoughts too 😃
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Originally posted by: rbb1

Great post the title says it all


Thank you...😊

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