Play of power at IF-Calling for attention Mr.Vijay

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Subject: HITLER DIDI Banner contest



1.We had the first round of voting for the Banner contest in the forum itself.


The attack of MIDs is always expected in any thread,and here it was about the banner for the whole forum and definitely it would draw more eyes!(I would like to make another point here.The mids might also be voting with an intention to bring the banners under the notice of the mods ,so that they get disqualified.So,one can never really conclude that the person behind the banner for which the mid has voted,as the one who is operating those mids)

2.Thus,the mods went on with the scrapping of the first round and resorted to the voting in the DT section.
But this was kept completely hidden from the rest of the forum!We would have had no problem if we had been informed abt it earlier and if the voting in the DT section had been a fair one!!

I am not doubting the votes in the DT section,but a few facts make me really skeptical about it.

For eg,the banner 19 which got 7 votes(2newbies and 1 groupbie) out of the 98 votes in the forum voting,made it to the top 4 in the DT section voting. I would just want you to have a look at this banner no.19

https://i.minus.com/i7Meg34t6cSbq.bmp

I really dont want to degrade any of the banners bcs every banner has the effort of the maker behind it,but do you really think this banner deserved to be out there in the top 4? There are soo many banners in which the efforts of the members is soo clearly visible,but the voting in the DT section prevented them from getting rewards for their efforts.This speaks a lot about the voting in DT section which takes place hidden from the forum.

3.Later,the winning banner from the votes of the members in DT section was announced but it was called as the banner which won by the choice of the members of the forum. Questions were bound to be raised as any normal member who looks at the thread having the voting by the forum would find that this banner was not the one to win.And thats the main reason why I myself questioned the mods in the thread that was made to congratulate the winner!

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/hitler-didi/3464009/banner-contest-ii-winner-note-pg-13-19

4.It was only after persistent and repeated questioning that we got to know that voting was held in the DT section unknown to all of us.We then demanded for the proofs to be placed before us as it was the matter of the banner for the forum and we needed clarity in the whole process.And a point note here,in the midst of all this,the mods emphasised over and again that top4 banners were selected from the voting in by the forum and only these banners were put up in DT section! Here in this link you can find one of the mods saying so


and in this link we have the other mod emphasising the same https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/hitler-didi/3464009/banner-contest-ii-winner-note-pg-13-19?pn=4

5.When we stood strong that we need a proof of the voting in the DT section,the mods agreed to come up with the screenshots.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/hitler-didi/3464451/screen-shots-voting-round-1

6.From the screenshots we got to know that it was a mod cum the participant of the contest who had organised the voting round in the DT section! Its not that we are saying that she has manipulated the voting in DT section,

but firstly,we were told by another mod herself that she was the one who organised the contest


but in reality her role could only be seen in the final result thread and nowhere else! And secondly,the screenshots pointed out to the editing of the comments by mod in the voting in the DT section!

We can find the editing by mod cum participant near banner 5,7, and 18.

7.When both these points were raised by us,it was then that the mods agreed that the process of voting has not been a fair one-

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/hitler-didi/3464009/banner-contest-ii-winner-note-pg-13-19?pn=20

8.And finally after a lot of discussion,it was decided that revoting will be done.Everyone of us was really glad with this decision of the mods.But then once again we were made the victims.The top banners based on the voting in DT section were alone put up for the second round.As pointed out earlier,a particular banner which had hardly got any votes in the forum voting but had not failed to be in the top 4 by the hidden DT section voting,this seemed completely unfair to all the other members 24 members who had invested all their time and effort into the making of the banner!! And one more thing,since by then it was known to the whole forum that banner 1 was of that of the mod,we raised concern that it would create uneven grounds of voting as the members would be more inclined to vote for Sano' banner so as to win the trust of the mod!

9.One can just have a look into the voting thread that is currently running in the forum.It just gives one a clear picture of what is called group voting.The 'likes' for the comments having 'banner1' writen in them also speak a lot!

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/hitler-didi/3464649/hd-voting-round-2

10.But our concerns and requests were not considered by the mods.But we still dint want to let this issue go off just like that.And sincerely,this is the only reason why I had to come up with a thread voicing the views of all those members who found serious faults in the whole voting process organised by the mods!!

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/hitler-didi/3465348/the-voice-against-injustice-at-i-f-mod-note-pg34-and-36

If the mods went ahead with the decision of scrapping the first round of voting by the forum because of mid issue and group voting,then what is stopping them from doing so in the voting thread that is now there in the forum?

The only problem is that we are minority demanding justice in this forum while the majority of the members are happy with the banner solely because this forum is always divided into two groups and it has become a custom to always oppose the views of the other group,no matter whether the other group is right or wrong.The same is happening now.The forum is failing to just raise above all these small things like groups and fight for greater and good cause taken up for the forum as a whole!

We have been a witness to the truth being misrepresented to us a number of times and now we have lost all the hopes on our mods.I kindly request you to intervene and take the right decision for the whole forum.

And right now the thread The voice against injustice at I-F!!Mod note Pg34&36 is being closed. Initially when mod notified us about decision declaration on friday at pg 34, post wasnt closed, but as we raised some genuine questions on post itself, then that lead to MOD closing our post.

We can no way accept this whole disguised and unfair voting process that is opted and safeguarded by the mods so that the banner of the mod alone gets a chance to be put up there ,right on the top,in the forum!!And hence,we request this so called Banner contest to be scrapped keeping in mind the efforts of all the members who had participated in it in the hope of a fair contest!!

Now after our every failed attempt for justice on the forum, only the admin can help us out in this biased forum .Its my sincere request to admin vijay to do the needful!!!


Thank you!!

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I kindly request the ones who have gone through this post to stand for the right by choosing the correct option in the voting that is going on right now in Hitler Didi forum regarding whether the Banner contest must be scrapped or not!!

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I would like to catch the attention of admin in my words
  1. Banner Contest was announced in Hitler Didi forum. Voting round was conducted on Forum itself https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/hitler-didi/3420233/hitler-didi-2nd-banner-contest-voting-round where many members participated.
  2. Later, winner was announced on this thread Banner Contest II Winner[Note pg 13/19]
  3. The winning banner was different than the voting taken place at forum. But the banner belonged to the Mod of the Hitler Didi forum itself, so many members accepted but few who counted the votes raised their voice against it.
  4. The MODs came up with clause that they conducted voting in DT section due to MIDs at the voting round of forum. The question was why was a banner contest held in the absence of our knowledge at DT sections? we were not informed prior about MIDs issue, and suddenly mods came up with the fact that BC was held in DT section.
  5. After we raised voice against this, and ased for the screen shots then after many hours of wait, screen shots were posted Screen Shots Voting round 1
  6. Decision of second round voting was undertaken but the top four banners which were included for voting was chosen from DT section votes.
  7. Moreover the winning banner which was of section mod was again placed in second round of voting, and its clear Its tough for members of forum to vote against section MODs.
Now we can not accept that banner which came out as a result of UNFAIR VOTING MEANS.
So its my sincere request to Admin Vijay to do the needful and trash such contest which are conducted not on fair terms.
thanks
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Posted: 12 years ago
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The CM had informed the whole forum that the decision of this Banner Contest issue will be told on Friday or Wednesday!! ( https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/hitler-didi/3465348/the-voice-against-injustice-at-i-f-mod-note-pg34-and-36 )Had the topic been closed after this declaration,then one can assume that it was done with the good intention of ending the issue on a peaceful note !! . But when a few more questions and queries (which pointed to the unfairness of the whole contest organised by the mods)were raised, it was only then that the CM closed the topic for no reason!! ( https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/hitler-didi/3465348/the-voice-against-injustice-at-i-f-mod-note-pg34-and-36 , https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/hitler-didi/3465348/the-voice-against-injustice-at-i-f-mod-note-pg34-and-36 )All this just points out to the way the mods and CM are escaping the situation by the use of their power,when they must actually be answering the members!!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Here,one can see the FB advertisement slightly visible by the side of the banner in the screenshot.Sch FB advertisements are seen only on the first pages of the forum or in the inner pages of any thread(Not on the first page of the main thread). So,going by this logic,does this mean the so called BC organised by the mods at the coolbie and videobie sections was not in a separate thread but ws rather a part of an already existing thread OR are we being given edited screenshots calling them to be original ones??!!! This itself shows how this particular BC for a forum has been treated in the DT section and the efforts that have gone into making this contest a fair one!!!


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Aadk, thank you for raising such valid points. It is sad to know that the BC was completely mishandled by the mods and the time and effort that many put into making the banners was completely disregarded due to this mishandling.
And yes, it seems like a mod taking place in a BC is completely in line with IF rules. But a mod who is a participant also running and overseeing the same contest that they are a participant in? How is this fair? What checks and balances are in place to ensure fairness in this case? Absolutely none!
I hope IF looks into this. People who put so much effort into making these banners should not be treated so unfairly. If IF does not have the appropriate tools to offer a fair contest, then they should not even bother. No contest will be much better than a sham contest.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Thank you Appu to take this much time and investing this much energy to fight for what you believe in and fight for justice !! I am upset the way this was handle! And shocked to see that your post was locked. I want to see this matter handle properly so everyone who participated and spend so much time get justice! I also want to see new open contest !! We watch the show and visit forum every day. We see this banner every single day and I do not want any bad memories !! good luck. I hope you and forum members get justice !!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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HD forum members should understand whatever has happened till now is complete wrong & i request all the members to think over about this for once irrespective of whoever had participated & whichever banner is beautiful.

Please understand the points appu & pari has raised about the banner arrangements & try to get justice


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Posted: 12 years ago
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In the elections of the country,we know the procedure because we have the right to know,since we select a government.In the same way,here a;so since we are the members,we have every right to know about the procedure of banner selection.

What others think is not necessary for us to consider,but as a member,we do have every right to know everything.

Lastly this post is created to draw the attention of the supporters and the MODS and of course if any question asked here is asked to the MODS.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Why there is an injustice in the contest? Why we are not getting the proper answers for our Questions raised in the forum? Why the Winning banner was different from the voting taken place in HD Forum?

We need an answer as to why they have conducted the second round contest without knowing it to the member?

Justice is more important than the Majority or minority . Please do the needul and junk the contest. We Wanted Justice.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hey Appu, U have placed the facts and proofs very well that i dont see how a neutral person would not see the fraudulence happening in the whole process. So congratulations for taking ur time and effort to write up a very tight and fool proof post for the cause.

Dear Mr Vijay, I hope you will read the thread and do the needful so that justice prevails. It might be a small thing like a contest in an entertainment portal, but isn't this a chance to show example to the youngsters, so that they go on to do similar things in life, and take inspiration from this.

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