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Posted: 9 years ago
yes shruti u r right ...sita always shows her half knowledge ...and ram and janak made her live in an illusory world always ...they made her acknowledge her strength ...but never her weakness ...they never let her face the true face of world ... made her understand sanskriti ...when she faced partially of world for the first time ...her response was aggressive she looked at prakriti for support...instead of making her understand the sanskriti, its rule, causes, origin and loops ...he just supported her looking for prakriti ... there is an old saying zahar ko zahar kaat ta ha ... similarly if sita knows sanskriti she can use it as both weapon and shield against sanskriti ... but ram and janak ...instead of being her support system and guide ...become her virtual enemy ... they both made her victim of society instead of making her inspiration for society [strictly my pov not meant to offend any character in any way]
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Posted: 9 years ago
mata mata mata mata mata mata mata mata mata mata, mata aa rahi hain mata aa rahi hain!!!
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Arijit007

mata mata mata mata mata mata mata mata mata mata, mata aa rahi hain mata aa rahi hain!!!

Itne khush kyun Bhaiya? Mein episode nahi dekhi
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Posted: 9 years ago

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Itne khush kyun Bhaiya? Mein episode nahi dekhi


are u talking about kali ma 's entry
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: TwinMadness


Itne khush kyun Bhaiya? Mein episode nahi dekhi

kali maa aane wali hain kal.
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Posted: 9 years ago
Guys quick analysis on key points. Hanuman asking ruma to take decision and he will honour it.once again highlights the beauty of action and direction. Hanuman instead of worrying happily eating gave ruma choices. Life is like that. Even if we want help we have to take choice of what help we want. Then ruma getting blessings of mother but not father. Prakriti is with her but not sanskriti. That's why she will suffer at the hands of Bali as she doesn't know vanar sanskriti. Now jayanth.What a dialogue by hanuman.u r an idiot .And he says those who don't understand has to be shown might.in a way we have to speak their language. Now sita.look siya ram entered it together. Their foot prints seen. I guess that is the border. How did she step out alone beyond that slab without him without his knowledge. Here I will highlight knowledge especially when we are alone. Then sita giving shawl to lakshman.she is giving him prakriti protection and ram gives her shawl protecting her from sanskriti. He has no protection now which is taken by hanuman by keeping all his loved ones safe.uttam sevak.then last line dharma protects those who protect it.Will write in detail regarding this in individual post tomorrow
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: daydreamers

Guys I'll be updating yday's and today's analysis after 11-30 repeat. A bit tied up..

Shruthi thank u for replying.. Kal maine aur Shirley ne bahot dimag lagaya 😆.



Arre Maine kya kiya ?!!!😆
Please do tell me aaj how did it go.. Pm me
Edited by sshirley - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
SIYA KE RAM- 22/04- LOVE

"Aapke ram aur lakshman bas itna hi kar sakte the"

More than ram siya am loving the way they have shaped sita lakshman. It's a refreshing watch. Absolute treat.

The episode the both had a debate I went on whistling endlessly. Reason not known. But this week has brought out the answers to every analysis.

"Krodh toh tumhari naak par rehta hai" 😆

The episode was about "love" through and through.

On the occasion of hanuman jayanti danish has started growing over me as hanuman. Today I felt a bit that he was decent. Waiting for his scenes with Ashish. Maybe he'll blossom then.

Sita offers lakshman "ber". It was cute. 😳

The " parnkuti" is nice. What I really loved was ram sita's interaction.

Prior to it, "padchinha" or "padchaap" score brownie points. A clever use cvs. All of a sudden I was reminded of a similar scene in "ghajini".

The most awww moment was sita taking ram with her.

The roles have reversed guys. A bit here and there from Wednesday.

Ram and lakshman are willingly let sita lead their way. This began yesterday.

Yday lakshman asked her. Today ram tells her to enter first.

This was magic. ⭐️

Its a build up.. Build up to the golden deer.. Build up till this intuition goes wrong and messes up so much that even logic can't save the day. And this is smthn which cones up in the last part. WOW!!!!

Sita's " hastachaap" was nice again. I actually wanted to ask this after the wedding and grihapravesh episode. Its a ritual where the new bride marks the walls with her hand prints of haldi. Was this there that tym? Or the cvs have missed it?

But what really took my heart away was ram's dialogue. The one that I opened the post with.

A man will always give a shelter. But only a woman can make that as a home. This whole interaction reminded me of the diya rangoli. Especially

"Jaha stree hai Wahi uska ghar hai. Van ho ya bhavan"

And I loved that lakshman was a witness to SiRa's interaction today.

The parallel scene is Roma sugreev hanuman.

One word cvs "clever". Nthn can beat this combination. I love the way you deal one aspect in an episode. 👏

Hanuman is hungry and wants a supermarket but he gets a small grocery shop this tym 😆. But he's happy devouring that. Roma is concerned about her life, hanuman about his stomach. 😆

He was given many dhamakedar lines today. 👏

The one regarding choices ⭐️. I can only say one thing here. Whichever side you chose, pain is inevitable. Today or tomorrow you don't know. When, how, why you don't know. But what makes you sail thru it? Its the faith, trust and belief. And these three come with a tiny thing termed as " love ".

Roma had two choices: follow your heart or crush it and move on.

Roma's proclamation that she'll follow her heart no matter how many obstacles she has to face, how much ever sufferung she has to take.

This goes directly to bali-roma-sugreev.

That's where the " pain" will come and "love" will become the strength.

Roma's father and hanuman once again 👏

"You can teach sugreev and make him an exceptional warrior. But how will you teach Roma to love jayant?"

Ah!! Cvs one word "WOW"

How beautifully hanuman has slapped Roma's father with mere words... 👏

Roma's mother blessing Roma. Again emotion and intuition take the lead. But does logic follow? A very imp note, not every man is "ram" or "lakshman".

This implies many things.. Can intuition always be correct? Can logic surpass intuition in this? Only future will tell. But what was better option? Marrying sugreev or marrying jayant? Following prakriti or following sanskriti?

So technically Prakriti sanskriti can coexist or not? Friction does happen, but to what extent? When sanskriti takes over prakriti is a person like ram always needed?

Am now pretty excited how this track shall shape up. Its seemingly interesting.

" Tum toh ucch koti ke murkh nikle" 😆

I wonder what he'll tell ravan once he's caught and Lanka dahan happens. It will be a treat.

Throwing off jayant more or less takes me to Lanka dahan.

Roma hanuman scene is much in line with Hanuman's visit to siya.

"Jinhe buddhi se baat samajh na aaye, unhe bal se hi samjha sakte hai"

Aasan bhasha mein

"Laaton ke bhoot baaton se nahi maante"

All in all a good scene.

The morning scene was nice. Sita lakshman ⭐️. Sita gives her shawl to him. Ram gives a shall to her.

This interpretation is a bit weird kindly bear it 😆

Sita giving her knowledge of prakriti to lakshman and most of all "trust".

Ram giving his knowledge of sanskriti to sita and most of all his "trust".

I relate this to the golden deer.

Giving away their belongings has made a void in ram and sita.

And who earns it all? Its lakshman.

The man who understands sanskriti and is learning prakriti.

The only person alert in case of golden deer is lakshman.

Sita by giving shawl and knowledge of prakriti has in a way lost the ability to distinguish between " nature" and "Maya". This will be evident in golden deer play.

Ram by giving shawl to sita has again lost some sense of sanskriti and Maya. He will have that blind trust in sita's ability.

The only person who has both is " lakshman". Reason?
He's still learning and is not afraid to question and express his doubts.

Ram on the contrary has developed a blind faith in sita. And posing any question or doubt is like questioning their bond. It will be a total catch 22 position for ram. 😆

My stupid analysis on lakshman is confirmed by the very next scene.

The ladies come to ask for help. He tells sita that it's not correct in terms of safety.

And one interesting thing.

Lakshman asks aren't they hurrying up? Why not wait till all the danger is over?

It was ⭐️

The man who knows sanskriti and is learning prakriti gives a practical solution.

But the tables turn when ram interferes. And his view echoes what sita had done at VM ashram.

Ram is more or less into "intuition" mode or "prakriti" mode.

But the person who thinks it both ways is lakshman.

He doesn't offer any heavy philosophy. He gives practicality.

"Jo dharma ki raksha karte hai, dharma unki raksha Karta hai"

It's a repeat I ges of what sita had told janaka or vice versa. I don't remember really 😆

"Dharma vo hai jo hum dhaaran karte hai"

Again both views support and oppose each other...

If u call what you live as dharma, what are you protecting then?

"Yourself or your life?"

Lakshman is practical and reasonable.

But ram and sita have to go a long way to prove what they preach. To offer practicality to their philosophy.

What it takes? A huge sacrifice...

Another mention was "aastha". Terrific cvs.

And c the precap.. What we get is juz wow.. Am loving the googlies cvs are throwing at us day after day.

One episode we praise sita
Next episode we praise lakshman
And precap?
Both are right.. Lakshman with his concerns ( demons) and sita with her faith ( kaali)

Absolutely a roller coaster ride. And who said mythology was disinteresting 😛 my advise pls come and watch SKR.


Cmn to the title

" raksha" I loved the dialogue of Roma "aap mere iss nirnay ki raksha karenge na hanuman"

And cut to "jo dharma ki raksha karte hai, dharma unki raksha Karta hai"

And what is the biggest dharma? "Love"

Hanuman is protecting Roma's "decision" indirectly her dharma.

Lakshman keeps the value of the shawl given to him and warns his bhabhi. Again "love", " respect" and "devotion"

Sita wants to help in resurrection of the remains. Her driving force? "Faith" a manifestation of "love"

Ram by supporting sita and the ladies. "Aantarik shanti mahatvapurna hai" and how one achieves this? "Boundless love"

In a nutshell...

"Jo dharma ki raksha karte hai, dharma unki raksha Karta hai"

Ram, sita, lakshman, hanuman, Roma all are following the biggest dharma called "love"

Ram saving Roma from bali (am not sure of this). Again he's protecting dharma of Roma, he gets hanuman. Hanuman protects ram.

Lakshman protecting Ram's dharma of love. Hanuman protects lakshman when he's unconscious.

Sita protecting the dharma of "love" and "womanhood" now. Mother earth will protect her from defamation..

Another scene that I loved was the opening dialogue of today's post.

Today sita's ram lakshman have given her a home. What about tomorrow? Will they only give her vanvas? Ram letting her go and lakshman leaving her in forest?

Tomorrow, the need of parnkuti will be more. Especially when she's all alone..

That dialogue has brought all sorts of complex feelings in me. It was poignant to the core.










Edited by daydreamers - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
Shruthi ,You nailed it with respect to Hanuman-Ruma incident. I also felt that a loop was opened when he gave the warning to Jayanth to not to come between love, for I remember a story of Jayanth ,in the form of a crow hurting Sita and as a consequence, had to face Ram's ire in the form of a normal strand of grass serving as a Bhramastra .He asked for help from every god and the threat went away only when he ultimately surrendered to Ram. May be Hanuman 's warning was a prophesy for that.
As for Sita not understanding sanskriti, I would like to put forward a different perspective. I think Sita understood sanskriti better than anyone else for like Ram she was discerning enough to see the cracks in it and strong enough to put herself in the line of fire to rectify it. Parshuram did have a reputation for his ferocious nature and his indiscriminate killing of Kshatriyas, so there was no reason to suppose that he was on a peaceful mission, was there? She did not try to injure him by lifting the bow, but tried to use it as a shield to protect her father. It is the natural instinct in all of us to protect our loved ones from real or sometimes apparent danger, isn't it?
When she questioned Janak, she was not really concerned with the prevalent rules of the universe. She had been brought up with certain principles and rules followed both by the king and the subjects of Mithila. So when Janak unwittingly contradicts his own teachings, she seeks to understand this deviation. It was needed for Mithila to be true to its own sanskriti and this deviation would have weakened its own position in the society.
When she crosses the threshold, her only intention is to protect her family from another curse{doesn't Ravan in the guise of a rishi threaten to do so?}.She has seen the effect of a curse in Ayodhya, that had ended in Dashrath's demise. So wouldn't she try her utmost best in avoiding another
curse? It happened not because she could not understand sanskriti but her inability to accept the distortion of its essence. Ravan represents not sanskriti but its hideous distortions...the thoughts of any person remains hidden until it is manifested in his or her actions, doesn't it?
The precap seems to be taken from 'adyatma Ramayan'{sometimes I remember the story and not its source}.From what I vaguely recollect Sita herself takes the form of Shakti to destroy the demons and comes back to her original form only when Ram gets shocked to see her kali roop and entreats her to come back to her normal form..I am not sure but let us see how they show it tomm.
Savita
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Posted: 9 years ago
Savita I m totally bowled over by ur post
It's utterly fabulous

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