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Originally posted by: varaali

Thanks a lot for all your replies.

I had typed a long reply. but somehow didn't get posted. So I am writing a condensed version now

It was shown in one of the episodes that Rama was against the sacrifice of the Ashwamedha horse and instead suggested a gold replica of the same.

Now this has what irked me.

1. Dasaratha performed the Ashwmedha well before Rama's birth. Just before the putrakamesti yagna. Not when Rama was a youth
2. Can Rama be shown as going against the Vedic injunctions? Ashwamedha is one of the shrauta yagnas
3. Even of the CVs want to highlight the non violence aspect, where the heck is it mentioned that the horse was butchered?
4. Is it not misleading the youth to believe that all our Vedas and shastras are crap and they have to be changed ? Srutis are eternal- they exist even after the mahapralaya.
5. Rather than doing research properly and showing the correct meaning, they have shown Rama as changing the rules- which in any case he did not. Is this not misleading ? Are the CVs cleverer than Lord Rama?

Originally posted by: sugunmanas

@varali
nice pointers agree with you👏
I know Aswameha yaga and Rama Condemning the age old ritual of sacrifice
there is no clarity regarding whether the horse will be given as Bali daan😕
CVs un necessarily put this track in between😆
they should have shown the Putra kamesthi Yaga in the beginning even though its Ramayan in Sita's perspective birth of Rama has a lot of singnificance in Ramayan😲
I really wished this track on the show
please post your long reply than a condensed version😃
i just wanted to know your view😳

Originally posted by: varaali

Thanks a lot for all your replies.

I had typed a long reply. but somehow didn't get posted. So I am writing a condensed version now

It was shown in one of the episodes that Rama was against the sacrifice of the Ashwamedha horse and instead suggested a gold replica of the same.

Now this has what irked me.

1. Dasaratha performed the Ashwmedha well before Rama's birth. Just before the putrakamesti yagna. Not when Rama was a youth
2. Can Rama be shown as going against the Vedic injunctions? Ashwamedha is one of the shrauta yagnas
3. Even of the CVs want to highlight the non violence aspect, where the heck is it mentioned that the horse was butchered?
4. Is it not misleading the youth to believe that all our Vedas and shastras are crap and they have to be changed ? Srutis are eternal- they exist even after the mahapralaya.
5. Rather than doing research properly and showing the correct meaning, they have shown Rama as changing the rules- which in any case he did not. Is this not misleading ? Are the CVs cleverer than Lord Rama?

Originally posted by: .MereRangMein.

1. I have no clue when Dasharath performed Ashwamedha Yagya. I just know there was one Ashwamedha Yagya when Lava-Kusha were in Valmiki Ashram.

2. Why not? It is one of the Shrauta Yagyas agreed. But if we praise Ram's loyalty for Sita for making a golden statue for her in Ashwamedha Yagya then why not this? People might as well say, why did he do that? Isn't the wife supposed to be there and be with throughout the rituals, doing her own part? I remember having a brainstorming session with my teacher who happens to be a Brahman and immensely passionate about these epics. If not in this Yagya, than the sacrifice of the horse was stopped in the next Ashwamedha Yagya conducted when Rama was the king.

3. Ashwamedha means Horse sacrifice as per my knowledge. Correct me if I am wrong of course. Here's a wikipedia article about the same: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashvamedha

It mentions that the horse is killed but since in Sanskrit the same words can have multiple meaning based on the context we don't really know. But I am sure it is possible that it was killed because still Bali Chadana is in prevalence. And the kings would have done it too.

4. They are not crap. I absolutely believe that Vedas and Shastras are the most amazing pieces of work ever. They are more scientific and amazing than any other books. They have knowledge about every single thing in this world. But sometimes a change is necessary. Isn't that what Krishna said? Sometimes the old rules though were perfect for the time they were made, have to be changed. Parivartan Hi Ek Matra Sthir Vishay Hai. And to bring about that Parivartan a huge mahasangram had to take place named Kurukshetra. It doesn't make the Shastras or Vedas any wrong. They are just not very appropriate or useful in the current scenario. Our Vedas preach kindness and name it as the sarvottam dharm. And what kind of kindness is asking a horse to be killed if that was case. Child marriage, Sati Vidhi, Female children as burden and everything cannot be given by Vedas. Why? Because the Vedas which showed Ardhanarishwar and worshiped so many goddesses cannot be so bad to us.

5. Maybe Ram didn't break rules but he surely didn't promote any kind of badness or wrong deeds too. CVs are not cleverer than Ram but someone who know what Ram means for all of us and wants to give us a good message we can follow throughout our life. We follow what god's say or do blindly and if they show Ram was against something, it will motivate people to do it too. I am glad that they are doing what Ram truly wanted, establishing Dharma and peace.

Strictly my thoughts, no offense to anyone.

Love,
Yagya

Originally posted by: .MereRangMein.

. I have no clue when Dasharath performed Ashwamedha Yagya. I just know there was one Ashwamedha Yagya when Lava-Kusha were in Valmiki Ashram.

2. Why not? It is one of the Shrauta Yagyas agreed. But if we praise Ram's loyalty for Sita for making a golden statue for her in Ashwamedha Yagya then why not this? People might as well say, why did he do that? Isn't the wife supposed to be there and be with throughout the rituals, doing her own part? I remember having a brainstorming session with my teacher who happens to be a Brahman and immensely passionate about these epics. If not in this Yagya, than the sacrifice of the horse was stopped in the next Ashwamedha Yagya conducted when Rama was the king.

3. Ashwamedha means Horse sacrifice as per my knowledge. Correct me if I am wrong of course. Here's a wikipedia article about the same: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashvamedha

It mentions that the horse is killed but since in Sanskrit the same words can have multiple meaning based on the context we don't really know. But I am sure it is possible that it was killed because still Bali Chadana is in prevalence. And the kings would have done it too.

4. They are not crap. I absolutely believe that Vedas and Shastras are the most amazing pieces of work ever. They are more scientific and amazing than any other books. They have knowledge about every single thing in this world. But sometimes a change is necessary. Isn't that what Krishna said? Sometimes the old rules though were perfect for the time they were made, have to be changed. Parivartan Hi Ek Matra Sthir Vishay Hai. And to bring about that Parivartan a huge mahasangram had to take place named Kurukshetra. It doesn't make the Shastras or Vedas any wrong. They are just not very appropriate or useful in the current scenario. Our Vedas preach kindness and name it as the sarvottam dharm. And what kind of kindness is asking a horse to be killed if that was case. Child marriage, Sati Vidhi, Female children as burden and everything cannot be given by Vedas. Why? Because the Vedas which showed Ardhanarishwar and worshiped so many goddesses cannot be so bad to us.

5. Maybe Ram didn't break rules but he surely didn't promote any kind of badness or wrong deeds too. CVs are not cleverer than Ram but someone who know what Ram means for all of us and wants to give us a good message we can follow throughout our life. We follow what god's say or do blindly and if they show Ram was against something, it will motivate people to do it too. I am glad that they are doing what Ram truly wanted, establishing Dharma and peace.

Strictly my thoughts, no offense to anyone.

Love,
Yagya

Originally posted by: varaali

WHere does Rama condemn age old ritual of sacrifice ?

There is a line in the veda "Yagno vai Vishnu"

Yagna is Vishnu himself

How can Rama then be shown going against Vedic injunctions ?

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Originally posted by: Kanak-123

Do u feel young generation would connect to story which is without folklores. Or something like old ramayan where one arrow to another then one goes and they laugh...My answer would beNo...They want to see love story , saas bahu all masala.

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Originally posted by: varaali

Actually that's what I wanted to know from u folks