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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: prav2

@Ramya ..that's an interesting inference and very well put...
Thank u Prav

We can also add damayanti from Mahabharata to it...

Yes, dhamayanthi is also one among the list.

You made me think of ovaiyaar's athichoodi..

"Udaiyathu vilambel" don't boast as it might bring upon some jealousy or wrath from someone else..

Yes, perfect quote. By the way, r u tamilian? Can I know ur name?


We can also infer why Brahma vivah is held as high by vedic society where there is no expectation from the groom or the bride side only the mutual respect..

Well said.👏 Our rituals have a strong meaning but unfortunately we don't spare time to know about it.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: TOTAL-ROMANTIC

Point well noted & great that you noticed 👏. It really is a big problem always & main point is to be noted Ladies..Woman..It all starts from there..LOL..😆😳😳


Thank u.
@red: It is not because of woman, but because of their father who wanted to expose their status😉
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: fatssrilanka

Ramya, great observation. True, all these swayamvar created problems for the brides.


Thank u. Yes, too much of anything is good for nothing.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: eternity_of_luv

Interesting point dear...
Great observation..
Each swayamvar calls destruction...


Thank u dear.
In ancient period, woman was given the choice to choose by either show casing the men or by asking them to express their skill. IKD how and when this practise changed and women became the showcase doll for the men?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Ramya,I'm Priya... and yes i'm tamilian 😊.. very true .. somewhere we lost the meanings behind it and started following just rituals which brings in a lot of confusion .. slowly the trend is changing ... ...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: prav2

@Ramya,I'm Priya... and yes i'm tamilian 😊.. very true .. somewhere we lost the meanings behind it and started following just rituals which brings in a lot of confusion .. slowly the trend is changing ... ...


Nice knowing you. Yes, hope in future we understand and do our rituals.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Ramya nice observation. But you need to understand that when Shiva unites with Shakthi destruction will happen. To elaborate it further we need to understand that the world and the Gods were at the mercy of Adi parashakti or Parvati because only she could bring back Shiva back to family life. Parvati took the hard path to get Shiva as her husband not only because of her immense love, but the world needed her to do it. Because Tarakasur was making mayhem with the boon that only the son of Shiva could kill him, knowing fully well Shiva after the death of Sati is leading an ascetic life. Devas tries by hook and crook to make Shiva marry Parvati using God of love. That plan failed miserably with Shiva burning Kamadeva. But Parvati's true love finally wins over him and dharma is established in the world as Karthikeya was born and killed Tarakasur
Enemity had to happen between Ram and Ravan. Ram had to Ravan. Dharma needed it. Shiv Dhanush only became a medium. Sita united with Ram for that purpose, creating jealousy in a man who saw a different woman in her.
Same is the case with Draupadi. Krishna needed her to establish dharma. She had to be send to Arjun. And she has to flag, the fires of enemity more so that ultimate aim of dharma is established.
Bhishma taking Amba, ambika, ambalika from their swayamvar opened up avenues for Krishna to take Rukmini as well as send Subhadra with Arjun. In star MB it is with this point Krishna counters Bhishma when he questions Subhadra-Arjun marriage. If Bhishma used might. Krishna needed Rukmini to kill Shisupal. Shishupal had to die from Krishna's hands. But Shisupal's mother made Krishna promise her that he will pardon 100 sins of Shisupal. Krishna wanted to make Shishupal commit that 100 sins, what better way for that to take his beautiful bride from the mandap on Swayamvar day. Shisupal reacted, went on insulting Krishna and finally got killed during the Aswamedha in Indraprastha. The finger wound thus happened is tied by Panchali from the piece from her silk robe and it is said the clothes she got during vastraharan was Krishna repaying her for that single piece of cloth she lovingly tied to his wound without thinking she is tearing her silk robe.
So understand that marriage is a union of Shiv with Shakthi and at the onset of itself whether we realize or not the process of destruction to something will also start. When the marriage is based on dharma, on the freewill of both partners then it destroys the right things to bring balance in the world, when the marriage is not right, it is forceful, then wrong things gets destroyed creating imbalance.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Shruthi: I agree that for the cause of destruction a reason was required and all these swayamvara paid way for it. But we should not forget that the enmity started between the evil and good from the day of marriage not because of bride. Its not the fault of draupadi, sita or amba. I hate those calling these ladies as the cause for the war instead its either the father or the husband who poured oil in the burning fire of asuras. Yes, if people degrade the shakthi they have to meet the consequences.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Ramya you need to understand in mythology stories if you observe deeply good side makes mistakes, and that includes both men and women. Bad makes advantage of these mistakes. Good makes amends, suffers and then are able to strike back.
When we say the journey of the woman was hard, we are discounting the misery of the men associated with them. The pain of Sita in Asoka Vatika was immense, so was the pain of Ram who not only lost her, but carried the guilt of not able to protect her.
Same with Pandavas. Yes Draupadi's pain was unbearable, but so was the guilt and shame of Pandavas who failed her.
We need to see the men made amends, they too lost quite a lot. Mythology had never placed the blame of war on women or men. Our stories are balanced to show the victory of dharma and how both men and women play equal role in it.
But the misguided patriatichial society we have ended up have made women responsible for war. And these societies actually push down the real Rams and Arjun's in the name of sanskaar, while the Ravan's, Dusshana's and other asura type of men take central stage.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Ramya you need to understand in mythology stories if you observe deeply good side makes mistakes, and that includes both men and women. Bad makes advantage of these mistakes. Good makes amends, suffers and then are able to strike back.

When we say the journey of the woman was hard, we are discounting the misery of the men associated with them. The pain of Sita in Asoka Vatika was immense, so was the pain of Ram who not only lost her, but carried the guilt of not able to protect her.
Same with Pandavas. Yes Draupadi's pain was unbearable, but so was the guilt and shame of Pandavas who failed her.
We need to see the men made amends, they too lost quite a lot. Mythology had never placed the blame of war on women or men. Our stories are balanced to show the victory of dharma and how both men and women play equal role in it.
But the misguided patriatichial society we have ended up have made women responsible for war. And these societies actually push down the real Rams and Arjun's in the name of sanskaar, while the Ravan's, Dusshana's and other asura type of men take central stage.

I agree that even the associated men suffered but the half-knowledged crooked people just brush off the fundamental line and blame the ladies like draupadi, sita and amba. I just ignore them rather than wasting my time in explaining those creatures. Ravan took Sita not just because she forcefully send laxman in search of Ram, but this is his in-born nature.
@bold: Completely agree.

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