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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Ramya I am an B-Tech graduate in Electrical and Electronics working in Information Technology sector in a MNC. 😃
So yes physics, maths fundamentals are known to me and that is why I said, my interest is in connecting western science to Indian mythology.
From childhood I had a lot of problem with rituals. I simply couldn't connect to them and was always called rebel and unconventional. Because my analytical mind always want to convinced of something. Beauty of science is that you can question. Nothing is absolute. It evolves. Today's technology is obsolete tomorrow. But fundamentals don't change, but application differs. No one stops this different application of fundamental laws.
When it comes to religion it is mired in dogmas. No questioning allowed. Whereas the same questioning can help religion also to evolve with time. Just like science. Same law, different application.
But things are like in the era of smartphone use telegram.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Ramya I am an B-Tech graduate in Electrical and Electronics working in Information Technology sector in a MNC. 😃

So yes physics, maths fundamentals are known to me and that is why I said, my interest is in connecting western science to Indian mythology.
From childhood I had a lot of problem with rituals. I simply couldn't connect to them and was always called rebel and unconventional. Because my analytical mind always want to convinced of something. Beauty of science is that you can question. Nothing is absolute. It evolves. Today's technology is obsolete tomorrow. But fundamentals don't change, but application differs. No one stops this different application of fundamental laws.
When it comes to religion it is mired in dogmas. No questioning allowed. Whereas the same questioning can help religion also to evolve with time. Just like science. Same law, different application.
But things are like in the era of smartphone use telegram.

Okay, good to know. So even though we differ in working area, still we have connectivity through physics 😉.

I simply feel that those who ask us not to question is the one who has no answers.
There is no need to accept everything as it is. In that case we may be thinking that sun is revolving around earth and RNA as the genetic material.
@bold:😆 absolutely shruthi.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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There is nothing to be afraid of worshiping Shivling at home. The rituals are simple. He gets pleased with even simple Jala abhishek, a Biva patra.
Vishnuji & his incarnations are Shringar priya, Shivi is Abhishek priya.
Regarding Shivling's as Neuclear reactors, they are Swayambhu ones. Are very deep rooted in Earth. Hence they are more powerful. With systematic worship offered to them during the day, they are charged with tremendous energy. Thats why the main ones are called Jyotirlings.
Some temples do follow a dress code for entering Garbha-griha. Whereas some big temples allows all to enter inside & offer worship.

Edited by mnx12 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thanks Meena. yes I have done Shivling Abhishek in Mahadev Mandir in Bhuvaneshwar. But in Kerala no temple allows people to enter Garba Griha and even to enter the interior men has to remove shirts and in some temples ladies cannot wear salwars( Padmanabhaswami temple in Trivandrum)
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Posted: 9 years ago
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In most of the temples in TN, people can hand over their pooja offerings to the priest and we can't do pooja directly. I know priest chants the mantras but in Kasi people themselves touch the shiv linga. I don't know about this difference.
Yes, there are some dress codes in temples but once it comes under archaeology dept like big temple, then they allow everyone including foreigners and in all dress. This has to be systematically organised irrespective of whether its under temple trust or under govt.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ramyalaxmi

In most of the temples in TN, people can hand over their pooja offerings to the priest and we can't do pooja directly. I know priest chants the mantras but in Kasi people themselves touch the shiv linga. I don't know about this difference.
Yes, there are some dress codes in temples but once it comes under archaeology dept like big temple, then they allow everyone including foreigners and in all dress. This has to be regularised irrespective of whether its under temple trust or under govt.


Every temple follows different rules. Specially in big powerful temples it feels so nice, dong Ahishek yourself, offering various things to Lord. It's worth experiencing.
In Babulnath temple of Mumbai, I've seen men even wearing shorts coming in early morning with big pots filled with water for Abhishek. That place is so good, one can even go empty handed. Copper pots kept there can be filled with water & offered to the Shivling.
Where I stay has a Shivji temple comparitively small but follows dress code for entering Garbh griha. I had pointed that out to the pujari too. 😆

When Krishna plays flute people gets mesmarised, gets attracted to the tune. Engrossed in the Divine music, they reach in higher plane. It's like meditation. I know people having Krishna playing flute in their home temple. They are quite happy with it.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: mnx12


Every temple follows different rules. Specially in big powerful temples it feels so nice, dong Ahishek yourself, offering various things to Lord. It's worth experiencing.
In Babulnath temple of Mumbai, I've seen men even wearing shorts coming in early morning with big pots filled with water for Abhishek. That place is so good, one can even go empty handed. Copper pots kept there can be filled with water & offered to the Shivling.
Where I stay has a Shivji temple comparitively small but follows dress code for entering Garbh griha. I had pointed that out to the pujari too. 😆

When Krishna plays flute people gets mesmarised, gets attracted to the tune. Engrossed in the Divine music, they reach in higher plane. It's like meditation. I know people having Krishna playing flute in their home temple. They are quite happy with it.


@bold: This gives the immense pleasure. Somewhat I lack that connectivity in these temples. I know its their rules. But I want to know the exact reasoning.
I meant Brihadeeswarar Temple (Tanjore) as big temple.
@red: Interesting one.
@blue: 😆. We can't be stopped right😉
@pink: This is what is required. When people worshipping those krishna playing flute idol are happy, then its a misunderstood concept of not doing so.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ramyalaxmi

As I feel this forum is full of members with rational views, I want to get different reasons for some of the following practices. I was told some reasons and I have my own different explanations but I want to know whether I am correct or not.
1. In my house, we wont worship idol or picture of Ram alone, only Ram-Sita or the Ram Pattabhishekam idol or picture. Is it a common practice? If so what's the reason?
2. We are not allowed to do pooja for krishna playing flute or the one in which krishna renders gita gyan for arjun in Chariot (battlefield). What can be the explanation?
3. Why doing pooja for yoga narasimha and not lakshmi narasimha?
4. Why we are not allowed to do poojas for siva lingam in house?
All these are my entire family rituals, I am not saying it as an universal practice. So if u feel the practice is wrong, u r welcome, but state the fact.

Note: I think it is not against the forum rules, if so then the thread can be closed.



Hopefully this helps a bit.

1. In my house, we wont worship idol or picture of Ram alone, only Ram-Sita or the Ram Pattabhishekam idol or picture. Is it a common practice? If so what's the reason?

2. We are not allowed to do pooja for krishna playing flute or the one in which krishna renders gita gyan for arjun in Chariot (battlefield). What can be the explanation?

Most vaishnavites consider that Lord Narayana always worshipped with his consort. This is very true in Ramayana where while Ram and Sita may have been physically together all the time, they were still always with each other. No prayer is complete without thinking of Rama and Sita together. One does not remain without the other. and hence a lot of people believe in not even portraying that in a picture.

3. Why doing pooja for yoga narasimha and not lakshmi narasimha?
Actually the only Narasimha I have seen not placed in homes is Rowdra Narasimha... the depiction of Narasimha as he tears into Hiranya and kills him.
Yoga Narasimha is Shaanthi Swaroop and Lakshmi Narasimha is divinity personified. Both are worshiped at home.

You can have rowdra Narasimha too.. only the rules and traditions of Pooja would be stricter and he brings with him the anger he felt at Hiranya for tortuing his Bhakt.. That may be hard to adjust to.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Justlikethat1



Hopefully this helps a bit.

1. In my house, we wont worship idol or picture of Ram alone, only Ram-Sita or the Ram Pattabhishekam idol or picture. Is it a common practice? If so what's the reason?

2. We are not allowed to do pooja for krishna playing flute or the one in which krishna renders gita gyan for arjun in Chariot (battlefield). What can be the explanation?

Most vaishnavites consider that Lord Narayana always worshipped with his consort. This is very true in Ramayana where while Ram and Sita may have been physically together all the time, they were still always with each other. No prayer is complete without thinking of Rama and Sita together. One does not remain without the other. and hence a lot of people believe in not even portraying that in a picture.

3. Why doing pooja for yoga narasimha and not lakshmi narasimha?
Actually the only Narasimha I have seen not placed in homes is Rowdra Narasimha... the depiction of Narasimha as he tears into Hiranya and kills him.
Yoga Narasimha is Shaanthi Swaroop and Lakshmi Narasimha is divinity personified. Both are worshiped at home.

You can have rowdra Narasimha too.. only the rules and traditions of Pooja would be stricter and he brings with him the anger he felt at Hiranya for tortuing his Bhakt.. That may be hard to adjust to.

Thank u. Good to know that even rowdra narasimha can be worshipped in home.
Why in most of the temples in TN, Chakkarathalwar is on the other side of lakshmi narasimhan?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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The Location And Structure Of The Temple

Temples are found deliberately at a place where the positive energy is available abundantly from the the magnetic and electric wave conveyances of north/south post push. The idol of God is set in the core center of the temple, known as "Garbhagriha" or "Moolasthanam". Ideally, the structure of the temple is built after the idol has been placed in a high positive wave centric place. This *moolasthanam* is the place where earth's magnetic waves are discovered to be most extreme.

Removing Your Footwear Before Entering Temple

Temples are the place that contains pure vibrations of magnetic and electric fields with positive energy. In olden days, temples were built in such a way that the floor at the center of the temple were good conductors of these positive vibrations allowing them to pass through our feet to the body. Hence it is necessary to walk bare footed while you enter the core center of the temple.

Another known reason is shoes and chappals are used everywhere hence they tend to get all the impurities like dirt, germs etc which spoil the pure environment of the temple and is the source of negative energy.

Ringing The Temple Bell When You Enter The Temple - Hearing Sense Activated

People who are visiting the temple should and will Ring the bell before entering the inner temple (Garbhagudi, Garbhagriha, Moolasthanam or womb-chamber) where the main idol is placed. These bells are made in such a way that when they produce a sound it creates a unity in the Left and Right parts of our brains. The moment we ring the bell, it produces a sharp and enduring sound which lasts for minimum of 7 seconds in echo mode. The duration of echo is good enough to activate all the seven healing centres in our body. This results in emptying our brain from all negative thoughts.

This bell sound is also absorbed by the idol and vibrated within the Garbhagudi for a certain period of time.

Lighting Camphor In Front Of Idol - Sight Sense Activated

The inner core of the temple is usually dark where the idol is placed. You usually close your eyes to pray and when you open your eyes you should see the camphor which was lit to do the Aarthi in front of the idol. This light seen inside the dark activates your sight sense.

The other reason of lighting camphor is for the idol to absorb the heat and vibrate within the Garbhagudi for certain period.

Put Your Hands Over The Camphor Flames And Then Touch Eyes - Touch Sense Activated

Once the camphor is brought to you after offering the prayer, you usually put your hands over the camphor to make your hands warm and then you touch your eyes with your warm hands. This action assures your touch sense is active.

Offering Flowers To God At The Temple - Smell Sense Activated

Flower, is good to see, spreads good fragrance, very soft to touch, the nectar given by flower pleases the tongue, and this combination is perfect for using at the temple.

Only specific flowers are used for offering to God like rose petals, jasmine, marigold based on different factors, amongst them fragrance is most important. The fragrance of the flower, camphor and instance sticks all together have the strong essence to keep your smell sense active and pleasant giving calmness to the mind.

Drinking Theertham - Taste Sense Activated

The next part of your act would be to drink theertham ideally from a silver or a copper vessel. The water used for theertham usually would contain Thulasi leaves dipped in water and must be stored at least for eight hours in the copper vessel. According to Ayurveda, water stored in a copper vessel has the ability to balance all the three doshas in your body, (vata, kapha and pitta) and it does so by positively charging the water. By drinking this Thulasi water you activate the taste sense. The other benefits of drinking Thulasi water from a copper or silver vessel also includes cure for soar throats, Fever & Common Cold, Coughs, Respiratory Disorder, formation of Kidney Stone, Heart Disorder chances will be reduced.

Doing Pradakshina Around The Garbhagriha/Moolasthanam

Finally, after performing all the above rituals you have to walk around the idol inside the Garbhagirha, the inner most chamber of temple in clockwise direction for nine times. Pradakshina literary means right side in Sanskrit.

The idol inside the Garbhagriha absorbs all the energy from the bell sound, camphor heat and vibrates the positive energy within the Garbhagriha for a certain duration of time. When you do the pradakshina at this point of time, you tend to absorb all these positive vibrations once your five senses are activated. This vibration inside the Garbhagriha is considerably less and hence it is advised to visit the temple very often and follow the same rituals again.

Applying Tilak/Kumkum Given By The Temple Priest

On the forehead, between the two eyebrows, is a spot that is considered as a major nerve point in human body since ancient times. The Tilak is believed to prevent the loss of "energy", the red kumkum' between the eyebrows is said to retain energy in the human body and control the various levels of concentration. While applying kumkum the points on the mid-brow region and Adnya-chakra are automatically pressed. This also facilitates the blood supply to the face muscles.

Why Offer Coconut And Banana To God When You Visit Indian Temples ?

Coconut and Banana are the only two fruits in this world which are considered to be "Sacred fruits". All other fruits are tainted fruits (partially eaten fruits). For example, the apple tree grows from the seed of another eaten fruit and that fruit is treated as tainted.

In the case of coconut and banana, the shell or the sleeves is not used for anything. To grow a coconut tree, you have to sow the entire coconut itself and Banana tree grows with the sampling. This is the reason why Coconut and Banana has an important place in all religious activities.
Our Ancestors had found this reality long ago and they had made it as a system which is still followed religiously.

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