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Posted: 6 years ago
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All in Mishti's family are agreeing she is changing herself to make the relationship work with Veer. This is not the real Mishti , even Pari confirmed today.

Phir bhi everyone is watching the tamasha from the sidelines.No one is advising her against it or even telling her she is wrong.



Radhika is obsessed with damadji instead. Koi aur ladka nahi mila tha .. phir itna compromise kyun?
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Life isn't only about your girlfriend or fiance or wife, everyone is different. What we do is that we make marriage and romantic relationship our life which is not correct, it's just a part of it. So Mishti isn't already part of Veer's world, because he has a life beyond Mishti.
I don't see this as shortcoming in Veer's character, it's his life and ultimately, he gets to decide everything for himself and that's how it should be, isn't this what we want Mishti or Pari to do? We don't like when Mishti is changing herself for Veer, why should Veer change. Veer is honest with her, he has told her everything he expects and everything he is willing to give, if Mishti has a problem with it then she should end this, but Mishti is fulfilling Veer's expectations.

Ruhaan is submissive and his submissive nature is celebrated as his love for Mishti, Mishti is dominant with Ruhaan and submissive with Veer, Pari is submissive as well but her submissive nature makes her a doormat for everyone so when we talk about feminism or equality, why treat dominant male and female differently?
Dominant male is a chauvinist and dominant female is strong
Submissive male is husband goals and submissive female is a doormat

One more thing I have noticed is that everyone (Radhika, Su Bua, Pari) are being blamed or criticized for not telling Mishti that she is changing herself for Veer, except Mishti herself, why?
Isn't Mishti old enough to take her decision? We do not want Veer to take decisions for her, then why expect that Pari, Radhika or Su Bua who have seen Mishti as a dominant strong girl will doubt her decision regarding Veer? It's Mishti's life, she is responsible for it and if she is not able to understand that in a relationship she has to he honest then I don't think she is capable of taking decisions for herself. The reason Pari or other characters are not coming between them is because as I said Pari is a darbari, in old age Darbaris used to praise every move of their King, for them their King can't be wrong, all they can do is write poems and books in their Shaan


Veer and Mishti are definitely not for together and in this relationship Mishti didn't give Veer a chance to see real Mishti, why would you judge him that he can't take real Mishti before showing your real side to him? This is where makers went wrong because I understand Mishti changing herself AFTER commitment to save it but apparently Veer has never seen her real side so it's obvious she has been fake with him from the beginning.


Lastly, I didn't say that Mishti is like Kunal, I wrote a note in the end for a reason, I wasn't comparing anyone, I gave example of a relationship where both partners are dominant. Even in chromosome, the dominant allele suprreses the recessive allele, the only way two dominant allele can live together are when they have same traits or they reach a middle ground which is known as codominance.


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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: poiu123

All in Mishti's family are agreeing she is changing herself to make the relationship work with Veer. This is not the real Mishti , even Pari confirmed today.

Phir bhi everyone is watching the tamasha from the sidelines.No one is advising her against it or even telling her she is wrong.



Radhika is obsessed with damadji instead. Koi aur ladka nahi mila tha .. phir itna compromise kyun?



Mishti is submissive for Veer but she is dominant for Radhika and Pari

Veer is Mishti's decision, why would Radhika and Pari doubt something Mishti chose for herself? How many times did Pari say today that Mishti is perfect, Mishti is perfection, she can't be wrong, dialogues are there for a reason
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FruitToasty

Life isn't only about your girlfriend or fiance or wife, everyone is different. What we do is that we make marriage and romantic relationship our life which is not correct, it's just a part of it. So Mishti isn't already part of Veer's world, because he has a life beyond Mishti.

I don't see this as shortcoming in Veer's character, it's his life and ultimately, he gets to decide everything for himself and that's how it should be, isn't this what we want Mishti or Pari to do? We don't like when Mishti is changing herself for Veer, why should Veer change. Veer is honest with her, he has told her everything he expects and everything he is willing to give, if Mishti has a problem with it then she should end this, but Mishti is fulfilling Veer's expectations.

Ruhaan is submissive and his submissive nature is celebrated as his love for Mishti, Mishti is dominant with Ruhaan and submissive with Veer, Pari is submissive as well but her submissive nature makes her a doormat for everyone so when we talk about feminism or equality, why treat dominant male and female differently?
Dominant male is a chauvinist and dominant female is strong
Submissive male is husband goals and submissive female is a doormat

One more thing I have noticed is that everyone (Radhika, Su Bua, Pari) are being blamed or criticized for not telling Mishti that she is changing herself for Veer, except Mishti herself, why?
Isn't Mishti old enough to take her decision? We do not want Veer to take decisions for her, then why expect that Pari, Radhika or Su Bua who have seen Mishti as a dominant strong girl will doubt her decision regarding Veer? It's Mishti's life, she is responsible for it and if she is not able to understand that in a relationship she has to he honest then I don't think she is capable of taking decisions for herself. The reason Pari or other characters are not coming between them is because as I said Pari is a darbari, in old age Darbaris used to praise every move of their King, for them their King can't be wrong, all they can do is write poems and books in their Shaan


Veer and Mishti are definitely not for together and in this relationship Mishti didn't give Veer a chance to see real Mishti, why would you judge him that he can't take real Mishti before showing your real side to him? This is where makers went wrong because I understand Mishti changing herself AFTER commitment to save it but apparently Veer has never seen her real side so it's obvious she has been fake with him from the beginning.


Lastly, I didn't say that Mishti is like Kunal, I wrote a note in the end for a reason, I wasn't comparing anyone, I gave example of a relationship where both partners are dominant. Even in chromosome, the dominant allele suprreses the recessive allele, the only way two dominant allele can live together are when they have same traits or they reach a middle ground which is known as codominance.



No veer should not change himself but he should also not say that his fiance and would be wife is not a part of his life as is means that you haven't that person as yours.
Will he say the samething for his parents and siblings.

Will you still say that he has a life so he can say that they are not part of his life. Misty is not some random girl whom he has met for arrange marriage, as you all keep saying she is his girlfriend and now fiance going to be wife. If she is not part of his life then who is?
Spouces comes before every relationship.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Majority here obviously likes Mishaan and Mishti so they are trying to find faults in Veer, we have established Veer and Mishti should not be together but let me reiterate it, Mishti never gave Veer a chance to see real Mishti, if Veer is going to break up now, he isn't wrong because he did not sign up for this. Do you see honesty is important part of a relationship, Mishti decided herself that Veer won't accept her dominant nature, it should be Veer's choice, right?
If she had shown him her real nature before maybe they would have gone for a few dates and ended this relationship, commitment wouldn't have been in picture.

Didn't Veer ask Mishti if she is OK with Ruhaan staying at her home today? He made that decision of giving her workload to Pari because Pari told him that Mishti is exhausted and overworking so he is no male chauvinist, who doesn't want his wife to work. If Mishti says that she won't work, as a fiance he is ready to support her financially, Mishti has to tell him things, he is no antaryami like Ruhaan, He did consider her feelings, after seeing her so called real side, he did come to her and apologize, so he isn't the monster everyone is trying to paint him.


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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FruitToasty

Life isn't only about your girlfriend or fiance or wife, everyone is different. What we do is that we make marriage and romantic relationship our life which is not correct, it's just a part of it. So Mishti isn't already part of Veer's world, because he has a life beyond Mishti.

I don't see this as shortcoming in Veer's character, it's his life and ultimately, he gets to decide everything for himself and that's how it should be, isn't this what we want Mishti or Pari to do? We don't like when Mishti is changing herself for Veer, why should Veer change. Veer is honest with her, he has told her everything he expects and everything he is willing to give, if Mishti has a problem with it then she should end this, but Mishti is fulfilling Veer's expectations.

Ruhaan is submissive and his submissive nature is celebrated as his love for Mishti, Mishti is dominant with Ruhaan and submissive with Veer, Pari is submissive as well but her submissive nature makes her a doormat for everyone so when we talk about feminism or equality, why treat dominant male and female differently?
Dominant male is a chauvinist and dominant female is strong
Submissive male is husband goals and submissive female is a doormat

One more thing I have noticed is that everyone (Radhika, Su Bua, Pari) are being blamed or criticized for not telling Mishti that she is changing herself for Veer, except Mishti herself, why?
Isn't Mishti old enough to take her decision? We do not want Veer to take decisions for her, then why expect that Pari, Radhika or Su Bua who have seen Mishti as a dominant strong girl will doubt her decision regarding Veer? It's Mishti's life, she is responsible for it and if she is not able to understand that in a relationship she has to he honest then I don't think she is capable of taking decisions for herself. The reason Pari or other characters are not coming between them is because as I said Pari is a darbari, in old age Darbaris used to praise every move of their King, for them their King can't be wrong, all they can do is write poems and books in their Shaan


Veer and Mishti are definitely not for together and in this relationship Mishti didn't give Veer a chance to see real Mishti, why would you judge him that he can't take real Mishti before showing your real side to him? This is where makers went wrong because I understand Mishti changing herself AFTER commitment to save it but apparently Veer has never seen her real side so it's obvious she has been fake with him from the beginning.


Lastly, I didn't say that Mishti is like Kunal, I wrote a note in the end for a reason, I wasn't comparing anyone, I gave example of a relationship where both partners are dominant. Even in chromosome, the dominant allele suprreses the recessive allele, the only way two dominant allele can live together are when they have same traits or they reach a middle ground which is known as codominance.



Completely agree !

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: ria2794


No veer should not change himself but he should also not say that his fiance and would be wife is not a part of his life as is means that you haven't that person as yours.
Will he say the samething for his parents and siblings.

Will you still say that he has a life so he can say that they are not part of his life. Misty is not some random girl whom he has met for arrange marriage, as you all keep saying she is his girlfriend and now fiance going to be wife. If she is not part of his life then who is?
Spouces comes before every relationship.


It's for Veer to decide, not me.

Parents and siblings are part of your world since you are born in this world, how is that similar to romantic relationship like Mishveer, where Mishti isn't even honest with him? If he picks Mishti above Ruhaan, whom he knows since childhood, I would have bashed him.

Didn't we bash Nandini for choosing Kunal over Mauli? If spouses or boyfriend or romantic relationship is above every relationship then Nandini was right in choosing Kunal over Mauli but we do criticize Nandini, don't we? Because we know she was wrong.
Forget Nandini wasn't Pari criticized when she went to Ruhaan and not Mishti? Ruhaan is that romantic relationship for Pari, and you are saying that it is above siblings and family, then why criticize Pari?

Don't we criticize people who send their parents to old age home for their wives or husbands? Every relationship has a distinctive place and every individual has the right to decide which relationship is the most important relationship for him/her
Edited by FruitToasty - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: ria2794


No veer should not change himself but he should also not say that his fiance and would be wife is not a part of his life as is means that you haven't that person as yours.
Will he say the samething for his parents and siblings.

Will you still say that he has a life so he can say that they are not part of his life. Misty is not some random girl whom he has met for arrange marriage, as you all keep saying she is his girlfriend and now fiance going to be wife. If she is not part of his life then who is?
Spouces comes before every relationship.


I dont believe he don't know about misty even after dating her before marriage. At that time Ruhan was not there and most probably misty would also not be on her overprotective mode for her relationship.

Why he couldn't see these traits then ?
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: ria2794


I dont believe he don't know about misty even after dating her before marriage. At that time Ruhan was not there and most probably misty would also not be on her overprotective mode for her relationship.

Why he couldn't see these traits then ?


Didn't Mishaan fan say that veer saw real side of Mishti and ran away? I just picked it up from the consensus of forumwasis on this topic and in today's episode everyone said that Mishti is changing herself for Veer. I haven't seen Veer asking her to change, he changed his last name to Khanna way before his marriage and I can tell you that this is a big thing in a conserved family like Veer's family, but it was his decision and he is like that, he takes decisions for himself and Mishti has given him freedom of taking decisions for herself, it was upto her to stop him and put her foot down
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FruitToasty


It's for Veer to decide, not me.

Parents and siblings are part of your world since you are born in this world, how is that similar to romantic relationship like Mishveer, where Mishti isn't even honest with him? If he picks Mishti above Ruhaan, whom he knows since childhood, I would have bashed him.

Didn't we bash Nandini for choosing Kunal over Mauli? If spouses or boyfriend or romantic relationship is above every relationship then Nandini was right in choosing Kunal over Mauli but we do criticize Nandini, don't we? Because we know she was wrong.
Forget Nandini wasn't Pari criticized when she went to Ruhaan and not Mishti? Ruhaan is that romantic relationship for Pari, and you are saying that it is above siblings and family, then why criticize Pari?

Don't we criticize people who send their parents to old age home for their wives or husbands? Every relationship has a distinctive place and every individual has the right to decide which relationship is the most important relationship for him/her


Do you even see what you are comparing how can you even compare a relationship between a husband and wife with the relationship of kunal and nandini. They were not even friends.

I guess you didn't saw my post clearly. You are comapring totally worng things family comes first and misty is his family as he is her fiance and he is going to marry her. You have destroyed the whole premise of my answer .

And for your information wife comes before any other other relation in every law.

Here this guy is discarded her even being a part of him.

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