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Posted: 6 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: ria2794


Do you even see what you are comparing how can you even compare a relationship between a husband and wife with the relationship of kunal and nandini. They were not even friends.

I guess you didn't saw my post clearly. You are comapring totally worng things family comes first and misty is his family as he is her fiance and he is going to marry her. You have destroyed the whole premise of my answer .

And for your information wife comes before any other other relation in every law.

Here this guy is discarded her even being a part of him.


Weren't you talking about Mishti and Veer? Are they married couple?
Please decide what you want to say because first of all we are discussing people who are not married, Mishti is not Veer's wife yet and he said she will be a part of my world, he was referring to marriage only

Mishti and Veer aren't even in love with each other, as most people say. here mishveer aren't even compatible with each other.

@Bold Mishti is not Veer's wife, He said she WILL BE part of my world so after she becomes his wife, she will be a part of him like a wife is a part of husband's world and life
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Posted: 6 years ago
#32
There are two sides of every coin .
If the one side of coin is mishti is fake with veer then other side of coin is complex mishti is not veer's cup of tea.

Writers have never shown how mishveer relationship started . We don't know how veer fails to observe complex side of mishti since the beginning of relationship !! I mean koi kitna bhi fake ban le ya kitna bhi pretend karle , thode time mai dusre partner ko flows kaise hai kitne hai samaj ane he lagta hai .

Our generation is very smart when it comes to identifying fakeness or pretentious behavior. I still can't digest this fact how come veer failed miserably in identifying her fakeness with him.

I like mishaan but my question is completely on mishveer's relationship.

Edited by sweet_tania - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FruitToasty

Life isn't only about your girlfriend or fiance or wife, everyone is different. What we do is that we make marriage and romantic relationship our life which is not correct, it's just a part of it. So Mishti isn't already part of Veer's world, because he has a life beyond Mishti.

I don't see this as shortcoming in Veer's character, it's his life and ultimately, he gets to decide everything for himself and that's how it should be, isn't this what we want Mishti or Pari to do? We don't like when Mishti is changing herself for Veer, why should Veer change. Veer is honest with her, he has told her everything he expects and everything he is willing to give, if Mishti has a problem with it then she should end this, but Mishti is fulfilling Veer's expectations.

Ruhaan is submissive and his submissive nature is celebrated as his love for Mishti, Mishti is dominant with Ruhaan and submissive with Veer, Pari is submissive as well but her submissive nature makes her a doormat for everyone so when we talk about feminism or equality, why treat dominant male and female differently?
Dominant male is a chauvinist and dominant female is strong
Submissive male is husband goals and submissive female is a doormat

One more thing I have noticed is that everyone (Radhika, Su Bua, Pari) are being blamed or criticized for not telling Mishti that she is changing herself for Veer, except Mishti herself, why?
Isn't Mishti old enough to take her decision? We do not want Veer to take decisions for her, then why expect that Pari, Radhika or Su Bua who have seen Mishti as a dominant strong girl will doubt her decision regarding Veer? It's Mishti's life, she is responsible for it and if she is not able to understand that in a relationship she has to he honest then I don't think she is capable of taking decisions for herself. The reason Pari or other characters are not coming between them is because as I said Pari is a darbari, in old age Darbaris used to praise every move of their King, for them their King can't be wrong, all they can do is write poems and books in their Shaan


Veer and Mishti are definitely not for together and in this relationship Mishti didn't give Veer a chance to see real Mishti, why would you judge him that he can't take real Mishti before showing your real side to him? This is where makers went wrong because I understand Mishti changing herself AFTER commitment to save it but apparently Veer has never seen her real side so it's obvious she has been fake with him from the beginning.


Lastly, I didn't say that Mishti is like Kunal, I wrote a note in the end for a reason, I wasn't comparing anyone, I gave example of a relationship where both partners are dominant. Even in chromosome, the dominant allele suprreses the recessive allele, the only way two dominant allele can live together are when they have same traits or they reach a middle ground which is known as codominance.



i agree with u completely.. great analysis 👍🏼
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_tania

There are two sides of every coin .

If the one side of coin is mishti is fake with veer then other side of coin is complex mishti is not veer's cup of tea.

Writers have never shown how mishveer relationship started . We don't know how veer fails to observe complex side of mishti since the beginning of relationship !! I mean koi kitna bhi fake ban le ya kitna bhi pretend karle , thode time mai dusre partner ko flows kaise hai kitne hai samaj ane he lagta hai .

Our generation is very smart when it comes to identifying fakeness or pretentious behavior. I still can't digest this fact how come veer failed miserably in identifying her fakeness with him.

I like mishaan but my question is completely on mishveer's relationship.


This is exactly what I was thinking and you raised a very good point.
I came to a conclusion that relationship with Mishti is not as important for Veer, you know how for politicians their political life is more important than their marriage, I think Veer is one of those people, his approach to marriage and romantic relationship is not looking for a better half in his partner, marriage is something he has to do but for Mishti marriage is very important, I don't know if Veer's attitude is because he hasn't found someone he can confide in or be completely at ease.

That's why Mishti and Veer are not good for each other, if Veer had the interest or the ability to observe Mishti, I would have said that Mishti has to work on the relationship, here relationship is incomplete from both sides.

I can say makers are going on good path as we can say that Veer won't be as hurt as Mauli was.
But that isn't same for Veer and Ruhaan's relationship, Ruhaan is very important for Veer and its Ruhaan who is betraying Veer not Mishti, people say Mishti is introvert in fact Veer doesn't share anything with anyone except Ruhaan
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Posted: 6 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: FruitToasty


This is exactly what I was thinking and you raised a very good point.
I came to a conclusion that relationship with Mishti is not as important for Veer, you know how for politicians their political life is more important than their marriage, I think Veer is one of those people, his approach to marriage and romantic relationship is not looking for a better half in his partner, marriage is something he has to do but for Mishti marriage is very important, I don't know if Veer's attitude is because he hasn't found someone he can confide in or be completely at ease.

That's why Mishti and Veer are not good for each other, if Veer had the interest or the ability to observe Mishti, I would have said that Mishti has to work on the relationship, here relationship is incomplete from both sides.


Bold black : completely agree with you .Veer's approach is very casual on everything related to relationship.If veer had the interest or the ability to observe mishti then since long back he had come on conclusion that mishti is faking and not showing her true side to him.

Here relationship is incomplete from both the sides and going nowhere because both have very different kind of expectations from their life partner. Yaha engagement tootegi to bhi itna bhi kuch bada dhamaka nai.Real life mai jaise compatibility issues ki wajah se engagements break hoti hai scene waisa he yaha hoga.

Season 1 was about more cheating and betrayal without highlighting major fall out reasons between husband and wife. Season 2 is showing different concept with highlighting more of incompatibility issues in engaged couple and fall out with giving attraction kinda juzzbaat in the background.


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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FruitToasty


Weren't you talking about Mishti and Veer? Are they married couple?
Please decide what you want to say because first of all we are discussing people who are not married, Mishti is not Veer's wife yet and he said she will be a part of my world, he was referring to marriage only

Mishti and Veer aren't even in love with each other, as most people say but Kunal and Nandini were definitely in love with each other when Nandini chose Kunal over Mauli. here mishveer aren't even compatible with each other. Kunal and Nandini were married to each other, that day might not come for Mishveer, but still I'd say Nandini was wrong when she picked Kunal over Mauli

@Bold Mishti is not Veer's wife, He said she WILL BE part of my world so after she becomes his wife, she will be a part of him like a wife is a part of husband's worl god and life


First of all Friends are also part of one person's world. You believe that veer and misty are in love ( at least veer is in love with her ). Don't you think if you live someone that person automatically becomes part of their world. I have never seen someone saying that I love you and your are not part of my world simultaneously.

For Nandini and kunal part it is a well stabilised fact that Kunal was the one who ws more worng between the two. It was his duty towards his wife that he failed to notify his wife before sleeping with her best friend.

Same is with nandini people hate her because she was hypocrite as she wanted her bad husband to not sleep with prostitute in front of her but happily slept with her best friends husband.

Nobody hated them for falling in love as it's a proven fact that you can fall for anyone. They hated them for what they did after falling in love.



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Posted: 6 years ago
#37
The conclusion to all this is : Veer fell in love with a fake Mishti aka a Liar? WOW the victim here is Veer while most are actually jumping on him
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Posted: 6 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: FruitToasty




Mishti is submissive for Veer but she is dominant for Radhika and Pari

Veer is Mishti's decision, why would Radhika and Pari doubt something Mishti chose for herself? How many times did Pari say today that Mishti is perfect, Mishti is perfection, she can't be wrong, dialogues are there for a reason



Right.Its Pari only who said Mishti is changing herself to make her relationship with Veer work. This is not the real Mishti.


Dialogues are there for a reason.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: ria2794


1 First of all Friends are also part of one person's world. 2 You believe that veer and misty are in love ( at least veer is in love with her ). 3 Don't you think if you live someone that person automatically becomes part of their world. I have never seen someone saying that I love you and your are not part of my world simultaneously.

For Nandini and kunal part it is a well stabilised fact that Kunal was the one who ws more worng between the two. It was his duty towards his wife that he failed to notify his wife before sleeping with her best friend.

Same is with nandini people hate her because she was hypocrite as she wanted her bad husband to not sleep with prostitute in front of her but happily slept with her best friends husband.

Nobody hated them for falling in love as it's a proven fact that you can fall for anyone. They hated them for what they did after falling in love.




@Bold 1 - First of all that's exactly what Veer said that Ruhaan, his friend is a part of his world.

@Bold2 - No, I don't believe Mishti and Veer are in love, please read the post,I said that today's episode made it clear that Mishveer aren't for each other

@Bold 3 - I don't know enough people to come to a conclusion on this, there is one person who said this and it's Veer, so it's his life and he gets to decide who gets to be a part of his life and when.


I don't want to get on why people hated Kunal and Nandini, it was for falling in love or cheating because we are not discussing the fundamental of their relationship. I distinctly remember that people hated Nandini because she betrayed Mauli.

I just gave an example that I hated Nandini for choosing Kunal over Mauli, now that you have mentioned Rajdeep, I hated her for choosing Rajdeep over Mauli, so how can I be a hypocrite now and diss Veer for choosing his childhood friend over his fiance? I don't think he is wrong.


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Posted: 6 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: poiu123



Right.Its Pari only who said Mishti is changing herself to make her relationship with Veer work. This is not the real Mishti.


Dialogues are there for a reason.


Didn't Pari also say that it's because Mishti loves Veer? So Pari thinks that Mishti loves Veer and Mishti is perfect, she can't be wrong, so why would she correct Mishti if she thinks that Mishti is not wrong? You correct people when you think that they are wrong, no?

Again dialogues are there for a reason

You see we have to hold Mishti responsible for SOMETHING in her life, it's her life and her relationship after all.

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