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Posted: 6 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: -poloenigma-

I think they tried to justify KuNan. Their vision had Kunal and Nandini as the leads. They tried to show that their love was not wrong, that it was okay to cheat on your spouse if you fall in love with someone else. However, the audience wasn't having any of it. For the 1st time in the history of Indian television the audience totally rejected the lead pair. For the first time, a supporting character ended up becoming the protagonist. I think they never expected Mauli to become so big. Drashti sensed that their was no way audience would accept Nandini and ended up quitting. Wise decision.

From the moment Mauli got to know about KuNan's affair, it became HER story. The audience only wanted to know what Mauli was going to do now. They wanted to see Mauli's reaction, her journey. And just like that, Mauli became the protagonist of Silsila.

I think regardless of who Mauli chooses in the end, it was quite evident in the post leap track that Mauli did end up becoming an independent , working single mother. They introduced Ishaan as her friend and people started shipping them together.
I think more than Twitter and Instagram/IF which is filled with actors' fans, the real reflection of what the audience wants is in the YouTube comments section of Silsila. These people are normal public, not fans of actors and 90 percent of them want Mauli and Ishaan together. Heck, these people don't even know that the show is ending and they want Mauli and Ishaan.

So I don't believe that Gajra doesn't know what the audience wants. She knows that the audience wants Mauli and Ishaan, but does she want Mauli and Ishaan together? That's the question.

Yup it clear what viewers want and it's also clear what writers want. 😆 I guess it's a win for both.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshi_asya

I religiously followed this show until it aired on TV. I have been reading updates, watching insta clips & visiting forum since it went to VOOT. This show riled me up so much during the entire EMA phase & after that until kids were introduced. Used to make several posts to understand these characters on my own, their actions & how a promising story went into gutter with the way it was executed.

Despite my initial apprehension for the show's initial promos & the kind of storyline they were depicting with all that juzzbat crap, I decided to give this show a chance. And I don't regret it because initial episodes were simply brilliant. For the first 2 weeks, the Maunal, the friendship, the abusive relationship, all was perfect. I even saw underlying issues in MauNal's marriage which could lead to big problems and on why Nandini would fall for a man like Kunal. But I wanted to see why would Kunal fall for Nandini because Mauli wasn'ta horrible wife or someone who made his life a living hell.

Things began to go downhill after the rain dance. I got that too considering that at times, something may trigger some forbidden emotions in a human, which happened in Kunal.

A friend & a devoted husband couldn't spare a single thought to a woman who was literally living for them suddenly. They were romancing right under her nose which honestly gave Crime Patrol vibes rather than some divine love religious vibes. To top that we had religious symbolisms, religious dialogs of swearing on holy books, sindoor crap and what not. They tried so hard to force such a thing as divine as possible which is impossible. Adultery is not divine, show it as a human digression, grey nature of human behavior rather than all goody-goody stuff. Then, Rajdeep was brought again and again to feel sympathy for the divine lovers. They were so incompetent enough to justify that to the extent they tried to use a criminal to make audience understand them. Then the dialogues were complete cringefest. Nandini's rant of "I don't know how this happened/No one had ever loved me like Kunal (Hello what happened to Mauli's unconditional love and does that count for nothing)/Forgive me Mauli and what not."

Nandini-Kunal never communicated. Their relationship felt more like dominant-submissive relationship. Kunal ordered her to do things & she did what he said. They literally made mockery out of domestic abuse victim who had just lost her child so tragically, to an extent that they made her sleep with the guy on 3rd day of their relationship immediately after she had been threatened. A woman like Nandini should have shown signs of PTSD in the relationship. She completely discarded the fact that Kunal wasn't just any guy, he was her best friend's husband & the resistance for him should have been 10 times higher. Rajdeep attempted rape on Nandini a night before & Kunal-Nandini don't even dare talk about it. Instead they sleep together without remorse with the sindoor and divine chanting. Nandini clearly needed psychiatric help after having endured 7 years of abuse, but nopes. Writers were more interested in divine love rather than focusing on trivial issues which made the story powerful. Mauli's molestation was completely sidelined. Nandini used to yearn for Mauli and out of nowhere this woman had audacity to say YES to Kunal's proposal without even thinking twice. As a friend she should have stood for Mauli but she didn't. And the PDA, were the writers smoking weed or what.

They never made audience understand why Kunal fell for Nandini- except for cooking, saree and all. That made Kunal shallow & lustful and it destroyed his image of a sensible man who didn't want to cheat as promos wanted to show. Promos promised 2 characters in complex situation & tussle about what to do with their feelings & not hurt Mauli. But none of it was shown.

And then an attempt to show them as holier than thou with all the bday crap, sacrificing crap. It didn't make sense. Foundation of KuNan relationship should have been communication about vulnerabilities and deepest things which were left unspoken. This communication would have gradually led to deeper level of things which would lead to EMA. But they completely omitted this key requirement. Kunal should have been made to talk to Nandini whenever he ran into problem with Mauli and Nandini could have realized self-worth through Kunal. EMA like that don't happen like that. When the people are sensible enough, the things like this are way more complex and grey making it impossible for audience to choose sides. But writer here made the task easy. KuNan were so pathetic, it made easy for Mauli to be chosen. Look at Kehne ko Humsafar Hain, Kdramas like Knowing Wife with same themes. They make it so convincing that it is impossible to ignore the plight of any character. That's how writing should be. Till date, I don't know why Kunal cheated except for the fact that he was indeed a spineless, irresponsible man who was just looking for a chance. I don't know why Nandini betrayed Mauli again except for the fact that she was indeed a selfish woman who just knew to use people for her own advantage.

The poor writing of Kunal-Nandini character was responsible for sympathy wave going completely in favor of Mauli. It wasn't audience's fault of not understanding a complex storyline but writer's incompetence which failed to gain even one reasonable supporter for Kunal-Nandini. Actors had nothing to do with it. NO matter who had played it, Mauli would still get all the support & KuNan would have been subjected to bashing. Writer tried to show KuNan as conventional, normal couple with all the divine things & music/PDA/dating, which backfired. KuNan were 2 people who were cheating a common person. They were backstabbing a friend who fought in tough times & a wife who was working her ass off to fulfill her husband's dream only to be betrayed in most brutal ways. None of these 2 had audacity to come out clean to her.

And now again, the whole memory loss thing wasn't needed if they wanted KuNan to be divine. The fact that writer still thinks of getting Mauli back to Kunal is one lousy thing. Mauli should either be single or be with Ishaan. For MauNal to be together again, the storyline was more complex. Because memory loss thing is stupid for bringing two together, especially after their past. The key to them getting together was again communication between the two on the deepest level which they can't make them do. For it Kunal has to realize his own grave error & negate things including his daughter which will make him more ugly & Mauli has to forget things which will completely undo what she stood for and fought for all these years. MauNal isn't possible especially after how they parted in normal circumstances. Memory loss was again one stupid idea. The show is masterpiece to show writer's incompetence in dealing with such a storyline & I had expected much better from Gajra especially after Balika Vadhu where she was brilliant in writing grey characters like Jagiya who went from positive to grey to evil to positive again very smoothly.


P.S- Ranted it out. It's been a really long time since I wrote on this forum.


this is a very good post. Yes they've written Kunal,and nandu so badly that we can't feel anything but disgust for them. I stopped watching the serial,completely when the nandu Kunal Ema started...I couldn't tolerate it because it was disgusting...they both came across as immoral selfish people who can't see beyond their wants and desires. All nandu came across was as a home wrecker...she never had a good husband so when her friends good husband showed some interest she fell at his feet in worship...and Kunal he came across as a man consumed with lust. But they've written it like that so hopefully they'll do a proper ending ..because after showing us that there's no way many of us will want to see a maunal reunion.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: ritzbitz786


Yup, I agree.

Like I said to Strike, Strike and Loosey both had a great analysis of what went wrong with the show and the storyline. But a vital part of "selling" KuNan and the EMA was also having someone from Mauli.

They should have introduced Ishaan earlier than they did or at least created buzz that Mauli will find love again. Then the EMA would also have been easier to swallow.

Also, tum barsu ki barsaat mein athe hu yaar polo. Ab tho show end hora hai, now come daily please, if you can please!



Haha I try to come here whenever I'm free. College is hectic 😡
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mages

like ekta says in a live interview during the screening of her EMA show 2nd season...EMA subjects are not for TV...they are open to digital platforms...TV audience are not ready to see such complex n complicated relationships...it needs a mature writing to understand this bold concept...gajra totally fails completely...

those days...i watch this show Astitva..my mom used to watch n i tag along...it was based on EMA n total mature writing



EMA is not a bold concept. TV audience are mature enough to handle it but there's a reason people don't accept EMA romances.

Because it's WRONG!

affairs are morally, ethically, humanly, and in every way possible, WRONG.

You can definitely control your 'feelings'. It's called drawing boundaries when you are in a committed relationship like marriage.

I know which Alt balaji show you're talking about and I can guarantee you that most people don't even like the leads. I've watched the show and I know I don't. Silsila is better than that show trust me.

There's a reason why the other Vikrant Massey show was a hit, and people actually loved that show. It was also a love story about two heart broken people coming together and it was an instant hit.

The EMA ekta show is. .. Trash. for lack of better words.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: -poloenigma-



EMA is not a bold concept. TV audience are mature enough to handle it but there's a reason people don't accept EMA romances.

Because it's WRONG!

affairs are morally, ethically, humanly, and in every way possible, WRONG.

You can definitely control your 'feelings'. It's called drawing boundaries when you are in a committed relationship like marriage.

I know which Alt balaji show you're talking about and I can guarantee you that most people don't even like the leads. I've watched the show and I know I don't. Silsila is better than that show trust me.

There's a reason why the other Vikrant Massey show was a hit, and people actually loved that show. It was also a love story about two heart broken people coming together and it was an instant hit.

The EMA ekta show is. .. Trash. for lack of better words.

Emas happen in marriages and that's a reality..and many couples get past the emas and move on with their marriages...but that's because in those instances there was a reason for the Ema. E.g. some couples go through problems in the marriages..they drift apart due to financial issues, work issues, children issues , family issue And in these instances there's a build up to the Ema ..e.g. the husband or wife could get close to a co worker and it usually starts off as a friendship ,.but there's a build up..and eventually the cheating spouse may feel guilty and also realise that he or she Doesn't want to lose his or her spouse and they go for counseling etc..and sort their issues out,.but in these cases there's still love between the married couple and they want to give their marriage another chance . And if they showed something like this in silsila we may have accepted it..But like Shakti said in silsila there was no build up to the Ema so he and nandu Just came across as bad,.selfish people ..
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Indira1211

Emas happen in marriages and that's a reality..and many couples get past the emas and move on with their marriages...but that's because in those instances there was a reason for the Ema. E.g. some couples go through problems in the marriages..they drift apart due to financial issues, work issues, children issues , family issue And in these instances there's a build up to the Ema ..e.g. the husband or wife could get close to a co worker and it usually starts off as a friendship ,.but there's a build up..and eventually the cheating spouse may feel guilty and also realise that he or she Doesn't want to lose his or her spouse and they go for counseling etc..and sort their issues out,.but in these cases there's still love between the married couple and they want to give their marriage another chance . And if they showed something like this in silsila we may have accepted it..But like Shakti said in silsila there was no build up to the Ema so he and nandu Just came across as bad,.selfish people ..


EMAs do happen in marriages and people do move on but once trust is broken, it's broken. People have many reasons for staying but I think once you have broken the trust, living in that relationship will be a daily torture. At least for me. I respect people who have the strength to divorce cheating spouses. And there's no justification for cheating though, none. Issues can be fixed through communication, not jumping into bed with someone else.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: -poloenigma-


EMAs do happen in marriages and people do move on but once trust is broken, it's broken. People have many reasons for staying but I think once you have broken the trust, living in that relationship will be a daily torture. At least for me. I respect people who have the strength to divorce cheating spouses. And there's no justification for cheating though, none. Issues can be fixed through communication, not jumping into bed with someone else.

yes exactly Ema is always a betrayal of trust and for many of us in real life it's unacceptable.. but with regards to silsila the way they portrayed the Ema with no build up no solid reason for it...it was just hated by the majority'. ...and hence they changed the storyline ...
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Great post guys, I really enjoyed reading each and everyone posts.
too believe that the writers did not expect the audience to dislike the plot of the E M A...I think they thought that if certain actors or actresses would play the role than people would like it. But that was not the case.

When I saw the first preview/promo of the show, I was so excited because my favorite actress and actor were in (DD and SA) but as time went by I started to dislike them because of their characters.
What really surprised me was that I did not know who Aditi Sharma was but her portrayed as Mauil made me to fall in love with both the character Mauli and Aditi the actress. So with that said, the writers messed up big time because the story was not written well and the audience fell in love with both Mauli and Aditi.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Yes we are indirectly responsible for the story line changing and silsila ending.
But I think Kunal is main character and his story will be shown until the last episode. This memory loss track was brought in for dramatic effect and to prolong the story. There was no intention to show kunal's love for Nandi as a mistake. If they really wanted to show Nandini as insecure wife the show makers could have simply replaced Drashti with other actor instead of bringing a new character Ishaan and show Nandini's death.
I think after Drashti quit the show they should have replaced her with someone else and showed the insecurities of second wife. It would somewhat show how Ema's messes life of everyone involved. It would be a refreshing story too. They lost the opportunity.
And I always thought fans care so much for chemistry which greatly influences the storyline for the writers.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: ritzbitz786



I love this so much. In fact, when I first came to the forum, I was even shocked that there are two ships, since I assumed post leap, there should and would be only one.

As far as the ending, I want to say and hope the writer, in her silent oath to her profession and to her own ethics, values and morals, whatever they may be, will hold true to the ending she has in mind and to what she thinks is right (and hopefully it aligns with the majority's sense of right and wrong), but that being said, only revealing the endgame at the last minute and giving subtle hints towards each ship, is yes, the viewers fault, completely.

That being said, and even as Shakti said in his interview, it's TRPs/Channels that hold the strings and in a way influence writers on what to write and to add twists etc., but I would hope at the end, she holds true to her story.


Right when the leap was announced I predicted someday Mauli fans will be divided in two groups. It seemed so far fetched and unimaginable at that time considering every single person hated Kunal. But I knew we are forgetful and forgiving. Chemistry pe naam pe we forgive even more.


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