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mili9

@mili9

Dazzler

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Posted: 6 years ago

#21

@agree looseseal🤗You and I are on the same page.

I just don't understand and annoyed by Mauli's chronic misery, as if she is going to the guillotine. That lack of communication from both sides, there is no recognition of how much Ishaan means to her or to Mishti. And is the misery all because of his mom? The mom is not a permanent, physical fixture in his life, is she ? Don't know why, I may be transfering what I am feeling, but she almost gives out the vibes that she is getting into this wedding to please somebody, as if she is doing a big favor to Ishaan😡 Ishaan doesn't deserve this at all🤢. For crying out loud, for a guy to be as supportive, reliable and dependable as Ishaan is, doesn't he even deserve honesty?

Yes, it all seems like Kunal had played his cards well, in realizing his goal of uniting Mauli with Ishaan, for the sole selfless purpose of fulfilling Mishti's wish👎🏼 How honorable of him😡 Very disappointedI am still hopeful that the writer will let Mauli find her feet under her real soon, see through both men for what they really are, not the bells and whistles that come with them😲

But until then, we may have to bear with the cringe-worthy great, amnestic, lover Kunal👎🏼What happens when he is back in his senses? Will Mauli then have to hold on to " what he was, what could have been rather than what he really is, what he really did"? My head is spinning as I think about how the hell can one justify all this cheater nonsense as a non-entity and that this guy even given a second chance😡

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sancheeta

@sancheeta

Voyager

Posted: 6 years ago

#22

@looseseal, mili- Loved reading your discussions and your point of views. Couldn't have said it any better and couldn't have agreed more. But alas, the writers seem to be on some other trip altogether. At the end, along with Kunal, Mauli's character too will come out as a mockery, and that is what saddens me more. And Kunal after doing all that he has to Mauli,will now come out as a victim 🥱 Hope the writers give Mauli a voice soon!

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Sapna

@NainoMeinSapna

Voyager

Posted: 6 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: looseseal

You can call me Looseal :)

Regarding Sandhya: she is nor evil nor the best person. The only thing she has done thats objectively wrong is not telling Mouli/Kunal or his family that Pari had come by. Like the kid was missing and she could have said yes Pari came here but left without saying anything (which is also true, remember Sandhya was gonna find someone to bring Pari home).I totally disagree that it was Sandhya's fault that Pari got kidnapped or Kunal got shot.

Secondly, there was "blackmailing" Pari into silence. Thats the bitchiest thing she has done and I am sure it will come out.

And yes there are other stuff like her taunting Mouli about being a divorcee or telling Pari about Nandini, its bitchy sure. But its not malicious nor evil.She was initially shocked about Mouli but after Mouli came back she seems pretty accommodating, no? It wasn't her place to tell Pari but its not like she went around telling people or Pari. Pari was there, she asked and Sandhya told her the truth. Also Pari wasn't leaving without an answer. Could she have been more more sensetive sure. But honestly, people are making waaay big of a deal out of it.

Like I said, when your favorite is an insensitive cheater, its much easier to find and magnify others"flaws". If Mouli can still be kind to Kunal after everything he himself did, Mouli can definately be with Ishaan and look past Sandhya's flaws.

Hey girls,

Totally agree with all that you guys have said here. And I just wanted to add one more point in Sandhya's defense.

As Looseal (love the AD reference btw) said, Sandhya has undeniably done awful things like manipulating Pari into thinking what happened to Kunal is her fault. But the fact of the matter is that the CVs are using negative Sandhya as a scapegoat to make Kunal look better. I mean if you think about it, it was Kunals fault for not telling Pari the truth himself. The reason Pari even left the house was to get answers after what Mishti told her. Had Kunal explained everything himself, or even asked Mishti not to tell Pari yet, all of this could've been prevented. But no one is seeing that because what Sandhya did was worse so now all the blame is of what happened is on Sandhya.

Also, I personally don't see anything wrong with Sandhya not inviting Dida and Radhika to the wedding or even with her kind of indifferent attitude towards them. People seem to forget that the whole reason Sandhya came back was that Kunal lied to her. He called her and told her that Mauli has broken ties with the Malhotras for Ishaan. So from her POV her expectations towards Mauli are mostly justified. And if you think about it, why should she care for Kunal? Who is Kunal to her? Her son's fianc's ex-husband. So why does she need to maintain a relationship with Kunal and his family? She doesn't.

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looseseal

@looseseal

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Posted: 6 years ago

#24

@sancheeta: Its indeed nice to have proper discussion with you all. It baffles to me to no end that the makers are so nonchalant about their own creations. You have good actors, you have characters that are loved (or hated) and a solid fan following...why are they not utilising the chances they have been given the channel and the viewers. All the viewers wanted was a good, strong moving on story for Mouli. So simple so easy. And if they didn't have any ideas, couldn't they steal one from this forum? Like I swear I have seen better predictions and hopes on this forum alone.

@NainoMeinSapna: Hello fellow AD fan. Thanks. Love Luciel (see that's an example of a well written selfish/vile person)

The thing about Sandhya is that her being good or bad is irrelevant. Unlike Radhika and Dida she isn't a big part of Mouli or Ishaan's life. She doesn't even live with Ishaan. The fact that they are showing her views on ways of living and relationships as an obstacle is the easiest and the cheapest way to discard MouHaan. If Mouli breaks off engagement/wedding because of "truth about Sandhya I will be pissed.

I am upset that she demanded Mouli to leave her "sasural without even bothering to get to know Radhika and Dida. I am a huge fan of them especially Radhika (not just because she is the coolest MIL but also because Jayaji delivers her lines with perfection, and her make up is always on point, even during her own son's funeral). I see them not as Mouli's ex-in laws but as her present mayka (don't know where the real ones are gone :/). So, I had hoped that Mouli would at least ask her to get to know her two mothers. But I guess if someone is asking you to let go off your parents you'd be furious too. I know I would.

But I do understand where Sandhya was coming from. We know what Radhika and Dida have done for Mouli, Mouli knows it and to extent Ishaan knows it (remember he didn't even know about KuNan, so maybe he didn't know about Radhika and Dida choosing Mouli either). But Sandhya doesn't know that. She think hers would be daughter in law lives with her ex in laws and where the ex-husband was back again. This was literally her point. Back then Mouli could have acknowledged that it is indeed a very strange situation and that Sandhya's response is normal. Then she should have convinced Sandhya to spend time with Radhika and Dida. Get to know them.

But yeah, ye sab karte toh Kunal apni herogiri kaise dikha pata. So here we are.

Edited by looseseal - 6 years ago

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Sapna

@NainoMeinSapna

Voyager

Posted: 6 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: looseseal

@sancheeta: Its indeed nice to have proper discussion
with you all. It baffles to me to no end that the makers are so nonchalant
about their own creations. You have good actors, you have characters that are
loved (or hated) and a solid fan following...why are they not utilising the chances
they have been given the channel and the viewers. All the viewers wanted was a
good, strong moving on story for Mouli. So simple so easy. And if they didn't
have any ideas, couldn't they steal one from this forum? Like I swear I have
seen better predictions and hopes on this forum alone.

@NainoMeinSapna: Hello fellow AD fan. Thanks.
Love Luciel (see that's an example of a well written selfish/vile person)

The thing about Sandhya is that her being good
or bad is irrelevant. Unlike Radhika and Dida she isn't a big part of Mouli or
Ishaan's life. She doesn't even live with Ishaan. The fact that they are
showing her views on ways of living and relationships as an obstacle is the
easiest and the cheapest way to discard MouHaan. If Mouli breaks off
engagement/wedding because of "truth about Sandhya I will be pissed.

I am upset that she demanded Mouli to leave her
"sasural without even bothering to get to know Radhika and Dida. I am a huge fan
of them especially Radhika (not just because she is the coolest MIL but also
because Jayaji delivers her lines with perfection, and her make up is always on
point, even during her own son's funeral). I see them not as Mouli's ex-in laws
but as her present mayka (don't know where the real ones are gone :/). So, I had
hoped that Mouli would at least ask her to get to know her two mothers. But I guess
if someone is asking you to let go off your parents you'd be furious too. I
know I would.

But I do understand where Sandhya was coming
from. We know what Radhika and Dida have done for Mouli, Mouli knows it and to
extent Ishaan knows it (remember he didn't even know about KuNan, so maybe he didn't
know about Radhika and Dida choosing Mouli either). But Sandhya doesn't know
that. She think hers would be daughter in law lives with her ex in laws and
where the ex-husband was back again. This was literally her point. Back then
Mouli could have acknowledged that it is indeed a very strange situation and
that Sandhya's response is normal. Then she should have convinced Sandhya to
spend time with Radhika and Dida. Get to know them.

But yeah, ye sab karte toh Kunal apni herogiri
kaise dikha pata. So here we are.

Lucille is hilarious. "You're now my third least-favourite child. Best worst mother ever! 😆 Man, the original 3 seasons of AD were so good and now they've just ruined the show with seasons 4 and 5.

Anyways, back to Sandhya, you're absolutely right. Sandhya is not a completely unreasonable woman. When that promo came out I though IshaaLi would handle the situation much better than just breaking off the marriage. But as you said, CVs had to whitewash Kunal so they just left it at that.

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looseseal

@looseseal

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Posted: 6 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: NainoMeinSapna

Lucille is hilarious. "You're now my third least-favourite child. Best worst mother ever! 😆 Man, the original 3 seasons of AD were so good and now they've just ruined the show with seasons 4 and 5.

Anyways, back to Sandhya, you're absolutely right. Sandhya is not a completely unreasonable woman. When that promo came out I though IshaaLi would handle the situation much better than just breaking off the marriage. But as you said, CVs had to whitewash Kunal so they just left it at that.

@bold: "I never cared for GOB" scene gets me every time. Uh fantastic show. We pretend season 4 & 5 never happened (but still hopeful that part two will be better)

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Sapna

@NainoMeinSapna

Voyager

Posted: 6 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: looseseal

@bold: "I never cared for GOB" scene gets me every time. Uh fantastic show. We pretend season 4 & 5 never happened (but still hopeful that part two will be better)

LOL I forgot about that 😆

That show had some of the best jokes, like Anal-Rapist, George Michael's crush on Maeby, and the chicken dances.

When is part 2 coming out anyways? I think we're doing the same with both these shows, keep watching hoping they'll get better, but they just don't.

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ritzbitz786

@ritzbitz786

Dazzler

Posted: 6 years ago

#28

I love this whole discussion going on so so much.

Love everyone's inputs and comments.

I'll just add one small thing, since many people keep relating real life to reel life.

In real life, one does luck out to have in laws like Radhika and Dida. But realistically, how many people actually get that? Not many.

In real life, one has to be open to communication, discussions and developing a good relation with their in laws. It takes work and effort and years and it isn't easy.

Had Mauli told Ishaan, he could have aided in this effort. And if she doesn't want Ishaan to argue with his mother, then she should say something herself.

But again, in real life, it is the husbands job to help strengthen the relationship between his parents and wife, and vice versa. So Ishaan explaining to his mother how her actions are wrong, she seems reasonable enough to have understood.

And as you all have so perfectly summed up my feelings on the show - I totally think if they had a season 2/spin off/changed track where Mauli and only Mauli is the main character. What she thinks, what she is going through, how she moves beyond her past, how she is scared to love again, how she falls in love with Ishaan, how happy Ishaan makes her, how her and Ishaan deal with Sandhya, how her and Ishaan deal with Kunal's amnesia, then it would have been a much much better show and perhaps TRPs would not have dropped.

Silsila came back from Voot to TV, I want to say, due to Ishaan's entrance. I think post-leap everyone wanted Mauli-Ishaan. Had they gone with this storyline and developed it more and made it Mauli-Centric and told the story from her POV, it would have been a huge hit. Come one, world wide, with things like the #metoo movements and feminism gaining popularity, there is no way the show would have had low TRPs.

But instead, everything is about Kunal. Kunal, like you all said, is a victim when he doesn't know about Mishti. Kunal tries to bring Ishaan-Mauli together (even though the reason was Sandhya's condition for Mauli - they brushed this under the rug and did stupid things like the patao Mauli scheme), Kunal now got shot and has amnesia.

Just thinking about it infuriates me.

Writing is imperative in any show or movie. If the writing is not up to par, if the situations and characters lack, if the storyline and POV don't make sense, then even people with high popularity like King Khan (SRK) in a lead role, cannot salvage a poor script (which we have seen with his recent and unfortunate failures at the Box Office).

Edited by ritzbitz786 - 6 years ago

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looseseal

@looseseal

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Posted: 6 years ago

#29

Originally posted by: ritzbitz786
I love this whole discussion going on so so much.
Love everyone's inputs and comments.

I'll just add one small thing, since many people keep relating real life to reel life.

In real life, one does luck out to have in laws like Radhika and Dida. But realistically, how many people actually get that? Not many.

In real life, one has to be open to communication, discussions and developing a good relation with their in laws. It takes work and effort and years and it isn't easy.

Had Mauli told Ishaan, he could have aided in this effort. And if she doesn't want Ishaan to argue with his mother, then she should say something herself.

But again, in real life, it is the husbands job to help strengthen the relationship between his parents and wife, and vice versa. So Ishaan explaining to his mother how her actions are wrong, she seems reasonable enough to have understood.

And as you all have so perfectly summed up my feelings on the show - I totally think if they had a season 2/spin off/changed track where Mauli and only Mauli is the main character. What she thinks, what she is going through, how she moves beyond her past, how she is scared to love again, how she falls in love with Ishaan, how happy Ishaan makes her, how her and Ishaan deal with Sandhya, how her and Ishaan deal with Kunal's amnesia, then it would have been a much much better show and perhaps TRPs would not have dropped.

Silsila came back from Voot to TV, I want to say, due to Ishaan's entrance. I think post-leap everyone wanted Mauli-Ishaan. Had they gone with this storyline and developed it more and made it Mauli-Centric and told the story from her POV, it would have been a huge hit. Come one, world wide, with things like the #metoo movements and feminism gaining popularity, there is no way the show would have had low TRPs.

But instead, everything is about Kunal. Kunal, like you all said, is a victim when he doesn't know about Mishti. Kunal tries to bring Ishaan-Mauli together (even though the reason was Sandhya's condition for Mauli - they brushed this under the rug and did stupid things like the patao Mauli scheme), Kunal now got shot and has amnesia.

Just thinking about it infuriates me.

Writing is imperative in any show or movie. If the writing is not up to par, if the situations and characters lack, if the storyline and POV don't make sense, then even people with high popularity like King Khan (SRK) in a lead role, cannot salvage a poor script (which we have seen with his recent and unfortunate failures at the Box Office).

Very well put thoughts ritz. I agree with everything (you know how stuck I am at the whole communication thing)

@bold: this is the exactly what I think about the whole Sandhya-Mouli dynamic and is probably don't see her a evil villain as most seem to do. Sandhya's condition itself was not particularly harsh, especially considering she doesn't know the three womens' bond and history. Mouli should have talked to Ishaan about it before (heck even after would have worked) break up. If then Ishaan did nothing then you could say Ishaan didn't try to strengthen MIL-DIL relation. But here Mouli never gave him a chance.

If Mouli understood that her living situation was peculiar and understood where Sandhya was coming from (and I think she did), why didn't she put more effort into convincing Sandhya that Radhika and Dida are her mothers and Kunal isn't a factor in their relationship?

Also, every since Sandhya's entry Kunal has been a constant factor in Mouli's life. So, there is that. And now with Mouli (most probably) preteding to be his wife...I am sorry thats too weird even for me. Forget my imaginary MIL, my own parents wouldn't let do that shit. But of course in real life people also dont get such weird amnesia.

Edited by looseseal - 6 years ago