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Posted: 6 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Tumpaasaao

Ok anahi about the character inconsistency which you mentioned .
Let me put a situation
A human being reacts to any situation from his brain ( limbic system )
A normal human being is always conditioned to respond in a certain way by his or her parents , teachers and friends .
So their is a reason why you are you and i am me .
So if i were put in a similiar shoes as nandini i would castrate rajdeep . Take help of mauli rebuilt myself and marry someone else . If by chance ifeel attracted to kunal , i would react back with indifference .
Now all this is because i have a consience and somewhere around i cant backbite my friend .
What happens if i dont understand that i am wrong .
What if i dont have a moral compass .
What if i dont even know and dont understand the consequences of my action
We all are taught to remain in lakshman rekha . We all do remain in it . Because we understand it .what uf she does not understand it . She understands only one thing herself .
Nandini loves herself , does things which is advantageous to her .
Rest all she does not care .
That is nandini
When you dont understand a perticular thing you react in unexpected manner .
The nandini does not consider ema wrong because it gives her happiness . ( narcissist always wants happiness of themselves )
Nandini kept coming back to kunal because she did not consider it wrong to be with kunal .
On why she made frevilous attempts to sacrifice for mauli .
Because , she wants to be friends with mauli too . She does not want to loose friendship with mauli . So if mauli gets to know about this attraction from her husband (if he was sincere ) she would not loose mauli .
A narcissist thinks "Oh how can i take advantage of the situation . "
A covert narcissist hides all these attributes well. Hence It Was Not Blatendly Obvious
I hope i could ellucidate nandini


she very well knew the consequences of her ema. she struggled with those feeling too but gave up easily.. she always knew she was wrong yet she chose to break mauli's marriage ..

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Posted: 6 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: music_l0ver036

but you shouldn't expect everything to be stated as exactly what it is. Whenever people are writing books or writing shows, it's more about "show" not "tell". You can clearly see someone is angry if they throw a chair across the room with appropriate facial expressions even if they don't say "I'm so angry". So reading between the lines is not what I'm upset about. But the fact that we have to do that at every single aspect of her character. For example, I think we all understand that Nandani fell for Kunal because she lacked a good husband and saw someone who gave her the love and respect she deserved. I'm okay with reading into that part of Nandani's character because that's just psychology 101. However, it doesn't make sense that that was enough for Nandani to start a new life without her past experiences interfering. I can't read into that aspect because research shows that battered women don't just go about their life because there are a couple of people who are supporting her. And especially if she's self-sabatoging herself and pushing away one of the person, the most important person in her life besides Kunal. So that's where the writing went wrong. I'm tired of assuming and guessing to give Nandani the benefit of the doubt. I wish they had given her more depth and wasn't just swayed by Kunal's whims. Which could also be part of her character given how that was how she was with Rajdeep. So I don't know, it's so hard because there was sooo much potential but all the writers cared about was the love story.


red -- u are right about reading between lines.. not everything is meant to be shown but there are things which we have to understand on our own.. but makers were making people to find unneccessary reasons for her behaviour as we were not able to accept what we were seeing. it seemed like a joke at some point and people were wondering if she is suffering from some disorder..

green - i remember ur posts about her .. u tried but i guess u realised that what they were showing was never about nandini's condition but they were trying to show her a selfish naive woman who is deeply in love with her saviour.. and this was something which was really putting the viewers off..

blue -- ditto.. they never cared about nandini's condition. they tried making kunal a hero and her saviour.. they never tried to explore nandini..

Edited by Anahi - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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@TM --- why at first place i should assume that she is a narcissist?? she ditched mauli way before she got to know the real rajdeep..
if u think her upbringing has to do something with thjs then i am really sorry to say that if they really wanted to show her a narci then they would have shown more of her father, house and upbrining..

if you see mauli's mother then you will get to see what is called a bad upbringing.. i am glad mauli isnt a narci..

i tell u what the makers actually tried to portray???
both mauli and nandini had a patriachral atmosphere in their houses. but mauli chose to be a doctor . i am sure if we can assume nandini had a tough life then mauli too had obstacles like her mother in her journey..
i am not supposed to compare both but i am left with no choice so kinda giving it a try..
mauli cleared entrance exam, did tough studies, got married to the love of her life..(love marriage u see) i am sure with that kind of mother this journey wasnt easy. but still she chose not to be emotional about her mother and did what she wanted to do.. she is a brave girl.
while nandini was always a follower.. she did what parents told. she did wjat rajdeep told her to do. she literally was a doormat.. then came kunal and she just followed hima nd gave up to all his demands..

i strongly believe this show is not about nandini's narcissism but about the choices made by all of them..

regrading depression.. she wasnt shown depressed.. this is INDIAN TELEVISION.. if they can show symbolic scenes for their ema then dont u think they would have given us hints of her being a narci???
that too when not even character but dd is getting bashed for her character???

this depression theory is not even touched by makers..

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Posted: 6 years ago
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nice post...dd was is and will always be my fav
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Drashti is a brilliant actress.
She was is and shall always be my favourite actress.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anahi

@TM --- why at first place i should assume that she is a narcissist?? she ditched mauli way before she got to know the real rajdeep..

if u think her upbringing has to do something with thjs then i am really sorry to say that if they really wanted to show her a narci then they would have shown more of her father, house and upbrining..

if you see mauli's mother then you will get to see what is called a bad upbringing.. i am glad mauli isnt a narci..

i tell u what the makers actually tried to portray???
both mauli and nandini had a patriachral atmosphere in their houses. but mauli chose to be a doctor . i am sure if we can assume nandini had a tough life then mauli too had obstacles like her mother in her journey..
i am not supposed to compare both but i am left with no choice so kinda giving it a try..
mauli cleared entrance exam, did tough studies, got married to the love of her life..(love marriage u see) i am sure with that kind of mother this journey wasnt easy. but still she chose not to be emotional about her mother and did what she wanted to do.. she is a brave girl.
while nandini was always a follower.. she did what parents told. she did wjat rajdeep told her to do. she literally was a doormat.. then came kunal and she just followed hima nd gave up to all his demands..

i strongly believe this show is not about nandini's narcissism but about the choices made by all of them..

regrading depression.. she wasnt shown depressed.. this is INDIAN TELEVISION.. if they can show symbolic scenes for their ema then dont u think they would have given us hints of her being a narci???
that too when not even character but dd is getting bashed for her character???

this depression theory is not even touched by makers..

Well said. Had they really had narcissism in mind, cheekh cheekh ke bolte humein. Even when DD was being bashed nothing of this sort came out. India is still not this aware about depression, so had it been what Nandini was suffering from, they'd have brought it to light.

Not everyone who watches will think like TM and that's a big risk that CVs will be taking if they don't give us hints. Like you said, symbolic scenes de sakthe hain toh why not about narcissism.

It's all in our head, we are giving some form of justification to give a closure to this Nandini character.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Priya_18

Well said. Had they really had narcissism in mind, cheekh cheekh ke bolte humein. Even when DD was being bashed nothing of this sort came out. India is still not this aware about depression, so had it been what Nandini was suffering from, they'd have brought it to light.

Not everyone who watches will think like TM and that's a big risk that CVs will be taking if they don't give us hints. Like you said, symbolic scenes de sakthe hain toh why not about narcissism.

It's all in our head, we are giving some form of justification to give a closure to this Nandini character.

Ok guys . I said we can agree to disagree .
I feel like I am being attacked for having a perspective about a character . Just because i happen to shares different view point from you all .
Neither am I a fool to waste time over trying to prove my view point to others and I am of the habit of not been spoken against to especially when it comes to diagnosing and treating . ( as I said am a doc)
So when people question me regarding the acceptance of something I do feel insulted .
So I am not replying to some of the comments above ( not naming any body )
Chalo bye all and happy diwali
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tumpaasaao

Ok guys . I said we can agree to disagree .
I feel like I am being attacked for having a perspective about a character . Just because i happen to shares different view point from you all .
Neither am I a fool to waste time over trying to prove my view point to others and I am of the habit of not been spoken against to especially when it comes to diagnosing and treating . ( as I said am a doc)
So when people question me regarding the acceptance of something I do feel insulted .
So I am not replying to some of the comments above ( not naming any body )
Chalo bye all and happy diwali


nobody has attacked u please.. now dont make it look like as if people or I have attacked u just bcz u have a different opinion.. it was a discussion and u probably couldnt prove ur point so making such statements..
u may be a doctor but that doesnt mean u understand a tv fiction character more than other viewers..

green - nobody said that how could u accept that nandini is a narcissist.. people are saying she was not shown a narci. thats it..

happy diwali to u .. byeee
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anahi


nobody has attacked u please.. now dont make it look like as if people or I have attacked u just bcz u have a different opinion.. it was a discussion and u probably couldnt prove ur point so making such statements..
u may be a doctor but that doesnt mean u understand a tv fiction character more than other viewers..

green - nobody said that how could u accept that nandini is a narcissist.. people are saying she was not shown a narci. thats it..

happy diwali to u .. byeee

It's not about proving a point .
I don't think I made the post to prove a point . I just stated my opinion . Neither am i trying to convince you to change yours .
We can have our opinions regarding anything right .
@ blue , this ...,
I am being questioned regarding my opinions just because people differ from me .
I specifically felt offended because of this questioning . Just because I share I different perspective I should accept this ???
Why ???
Just because you say I should accept??
I am sorry cant accept . I will stick to my opinions .
I felt a similar bad feeling in your previous comment too . Hence my reply .

I just felt this way because of your last comment too. I stated the reason too .
I really liked the way priya replied . She opined she could not consider nandini as a narcissist because the upbringing was not shown properly . Agreed .
Somebody stated it was too abstract agreed.
They are right .



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Posted: 6 years ago
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@tm -
lol.. i am unable to understand what u really mean.. do u really read my posts or not..
nowhere i said u should agree to me..
u could have said that u dont agree to me and we could have move on..
again and again u are making comments like i am being questioned , i am attacked.. like where exactly??????
if u make a post about something here, u will get replies and all people can not agree to your pov.. u only started with GENERALISING things like people failed to understand nandini.. then why do u expect me or someone else not to state their pov?
and why cant i put questions to u regarding nandini??? is there any format which i need to follow while making a write up ?

@priya said that she could not understand nandini was fine for u. she said she couldnt accept nandini was a narci wss also fine. but since i made a clear statement that nandini wasnt a narci u felt offended..

i think u want me to write " I COULD NOT UNDERSTAND NANDINI"

just like u can make statements like "audience couldnt understand nandini. and writing and acting were top notch"
i can also say " nandini WAS NOT A NARCISSIST"


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