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mango

@mango.falooda

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Posted: 6 years ago

#591

kekekek... two kunals? didn't we discuss this before @pamk06? and now, even kunal talks about himself as mauli's kunal and nandini's kunal. 😆 ... was wondering if he was going to buckle but he was actually quite firm. he is right -- he is not a thing that can be passed back and forth and no one seems interested in his opinion.

while he didn't give any word or feel that he was interested in reconciliation, he should have realized that going with the flow to appease dida has made things worse. now, rather than prolong the misery, he cut the cord quickly and pointed out that even if they get back together, they would never be happy because he is in love with nandini. (actually thought this conversation would go for a few episodes. but it was just a few minutes)

prefer this selfish, grey kunal who speaks his mind than the silent one who waffles and makes things worse because he doesn't want to disturb the waters. this kunal knows everything is already broken and so why bother... it was good that he did not run after mauli -- as he correctly put it, that will only hurt maluli and make it worse. can we have the selfish kunal pop up and tell dida and radhika off for their manipulative behaviour?

nandini's back and forth is probably meant to show her reluctance to be the third wheel and a sense of guilt. but whenever kunal comes in, her happiness with him overrides any other niggling feeling of guilt or conscience. now with the baby angle, will we have another back and forth? because it is a late night show and less likely to have child actors (mostly have noticed that children stop appearing late night no?), maybe mauli will have a miscarriage. if it was ekta serial, they would just have 20 year leap and an adult child. hahahahha..

and how did rajdeep manage to get to the hospital? wonder about rajdeep's equation to everyone especially mauli going forward.. and yea, where did mauli's pepper spray come from? so many questions! 😆

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@pamk06

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Posted: 6 years ago

#592

@mango_pudding: Not seen the episode yet from yesterday but Nandini's and Mauli's Kunal huh?? Wow, so they finally acknowledged there are two Kunal's 😆. We did discuss it so many times and the naming of the two Kunal's was definitely this thread's creation. I actually mentioned somewhere on the forum, that currently Kunal is the only person who is talking sensibly on this show. I actually prefer mean, selfish Kunal who knows what is right and speaks his mind, not the other one who just lets the women in his life do the talking. This Kunal is one who was always ready to take a stand and the right now he is. I think this part he always knew since the cafe conversation but he just implementing it now. I think if Dida's heart-attack drama would not have happened, we would have seen this before now but only if he could have opened his mouth then. Anyways better late than never, I wish he could just convey this message to his family.

You were right when you said the writers just concentrates on one characters and destroys the other two. Currently, she is only concentrating on Kunal and he is behaving exactly how he should be but she is actually turned the other two FL's into puppets. One is dancing to the tunes of Radhika and Dida and the other to the tunes of Kunal and Rajdeep. I am being harsh but this is actually true.

I actually do not get Rajdeep relationship with Mauli. He does not like Mauli but he is still sympathetic to her which he should not, right, knowing him? But he will always be there to create problems for Nandini, I think.

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@pamk06

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Posted: 6 years ago

#593

@mango_pudding: There is an OLV which shows that Kunal and Nandini find out about the pregnancy and he was confused like all of us on how Mauli got pregnant 😆,. His mother is going for a showdown where she is saying if you return home now , you are not going back so decide, I think.

Having said that, the show has again reached a decision point. Based on all that we know of Nandini and him, what do you think they will decide? Parenthood or love? For Nandini, child is important, she is lost one and hence she knows the feeling. Will she be selfish and keep Kunal from fatherhood or push him towards it? Kunal loves children and a child is very important to him. So between his love and fatherhood, what will he choose? Will he go in denial or choose to take a conscious decision based on pros and cons?If Kunal comes back, will Mauli choose child's needs two parents theory or self dignity?

Methinks if they keep these characters intact, Kunal and Mauli will unite. Mauli is a person who will always keep other people above her own, at the cost of her own well-being. If Kunal returns, for the oldies and the child, even if she hates it, she might accept him back. I so hope I am wrong.

Kunal is pretty adamant that the marriage is over but the child will put him in confusion. He will not be able to let it go, how much ever he wants to be with his love because family is important to him. This will almost be like a reverse from before where he wanted to to stay with Mauli but kept going towards Nandini. I think he will go to his child.

Nandini was ready to give her child a father like Rajdeep thinking that the child will change him and improve their relationship. Will she use the same logic on Kunal here? Will she choose the child? I still have hope in her that she will take the right decision this time or make Kunal take the right one.

PS: I hope they show us a sensible conversation between these two where they talk about their thoughts, not one, where Nandini is running away and Kunal is driving, thinking and ends up with banging his head. If at this point, they both show selfishness, then there is no coming back for these two. It would be total assassination of the characters that they have shown us till now.

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chulbuliladki

@chulbuliladki

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Posted: 6 years ago

#594

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

waving hello to @chulbuliladki. :) guess, we are all surviving this madcap of a serial? hahahahah...

@pamk06 -- kekekek... yea, the fire was super dramatic wasn't it? such visual symbolism of everything burning... I just thought the CVs were being rather shakespearean and sort of recreating a twisted version of the marriage fire ceremony walk or alternatively doing a kind of modern sati? or something... I was actually wondering why on earth she willingly changed and let herself be tied. did she already inhale some smoke? 😆 ...

hard to figure out this serial when we are watching at 11... and as usual, dida and radhika put the responsibility of everything on mauli -- umm, are their vocal chords not working? guess, they want to be the good guys? so kunal doesn't get mad at them and they can also blame mauli for not doing enough to capture kunal even though they gave support...

kekekek... kunal the firefighter! ... but does anyone think that with the fire, now rajdeep might get a personality transplant post leap? maybe he will get some concussion and his brain will re-wire itself and he will find himself cured of his destructive behaviour because the clot was removed and he asks the nurse in a badly stitched uniform, "what happened to me?" wait, thats an ekta serial... maybe not? 😆

Waving back hello 😆 Madcap is the right word.😆Very interesting conversations here.👍🏼 Reading all the posts one by one.

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mango

@mango.falooda

Rocker

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Posted: 6 years ago

#595

Originally posted by: pamk06
@mango_pudding: Not seen the episode yet from yesterday but Nandini's and Mauli's Kunal huh?? Wow, so they finally acknowledged there are two Kunal's 😆. We did discuss it so many times and the naming of the two Kunal's was definitely this thread's creation. I actually mentioned somewhere on the forum, that currently Kunal is the only person who is talking sensibly on this show. I actually prefer mean, selfish Kunal who knows what is right and speaks his mind, not the other one who just lets the women in his life do the talking. This Kunal is one who was always ready to take a stand and the right now he is. I think this part he always knew since the cafe conversation but he just implementing it now. I think if Dida's heart-attack drama would not have happened, we would have seen this before now but only if he could have opened his mouth then. Anyways better late than never, I wish he could just convey this message to his family.

You were right when you said the writers just concentrates on one characters and destroys the other two. Currently, she is only concentrating on Kunal and he is behaving exactly how he should be but she is actually turned the other two FL's into puppets. One is dancing to the tunes of Radhika and Dida and the other to the tunes of Kunal and Rajdeep. I am being harsh but this is actually true.

I actually do not get Rajdeep relationship with Mauli. He does not like Mauli but he is still sympathetic to her which he should not, right, knowing him? But he will always be there to create problems for Nandini, I think.

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@pamk06 -- maybe they get paid for writing for one character only? 😉 hahahha... but yea, I actually kunal's dialogues were quite alright and actually sensible considering the situation. in many other dramas, this scene usually gets really nasty and so I was surprised that it didn't go down to that level.

1. he didn't do a comparison of mauli and nandini. usually in such scenes, there is a list of flaws the guy sprouts and his take on why the other one is better.

2. he didn't give explanations on why he is drawn to nandini but he didn't blacken the past either. instead he acknowledges the good. usually, the guy sprouts on how he has been miserable for so long and the wife is like "what?? but I thought we were happy?" kind of dialogues.

3. so, his "what if something happened to nandini" was eye rolling but it fits in with the narrative and shows his priority is with nandini. but CVs were smart enough to leave it there and not go on and on in that line. which sometimes happens in other dramas.

4. he has a clear vision of the future. even if they get back together, there is no way they can be happy together and so the only way forward is to split.

so in that way, kunal's dialogues were actually on point. it also showed his anger at being treated like a thing and people making decisions for him... so he may not take too kindly to nandini making decisions for him.

not sure what is rajdeep's equation but he does have an amusing funny vibe with mauli no? it is like he enjoys toying with her but at the same time, he sees both of them in the same boat. so almost like teammates who he enjoys making a bit miserable but both have the same goals?

and re: baby angle -- if kunal and mauli get back together, won't the story just end? 😆 so husband has affair, comes back for child and then what? there is a leap and he meets nandini again and has an affair again? 😆 so not sure if it would be interesting narrative if he was to come back. how would the CVs extend the story forward? whereas, if they split up, then narrative wise, there are plenty of ways to keep the drama going no?

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@pamk06

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Posted: 6 years ago

#596

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

@pamk06 -- maybe they get paid for writing for one character only? 😉 hahahha... but yea, I actually kunal's dialogues were quite alright and actually sensible considering the situation. in many other dramas, this scene usually gets really nasty and so I was surprised that it didn't go down to that level.
1. he didn't do a comparison of mauli and nandini. usually in such scenes, there is a list of flaws the guy sprouts and his take on why the other one is better.
2. he didn't give explanations on why he is drawn to nandini but he didn't blacken the past either. instead he acknowledges the good. usually, the guy sprouts on how he has been miserable for so long and the wife is like "what?? but I thought we were happy?" kind of dialogues.
3. so, his "what if something happened to nandini" was eye rolling but it fits in with the narrative and shows his priority is with nandini. but CVs were smart enough to leave it there and not go on and on in that line. which sometimes happens in other dramas.
4. he has a clear vision of the future. even if they get back together, there is no way they can be happy together and so the only way forward is to split.

so in that way, kunal's dialogues were actually on point. it also showed his anger at being treated like a thing and people making decisions for him... so he may not take too kindly to nandini making decisions for him.

not sure what is rajdeep's equation but he does have an amusing funny vibe with mauli no? it is like he enjoys toying with her but at the same time, he sees both of them in the same boat. so almost like teammates who he enjoys making a bit miserable but both have the same goals?

and re: baby angle -- if kunal and mauli get back together, won't the story just end? 😆 so husband has affair, comes back for child and then what? there is a leap and he meets nandini again and has an affair again? 😆 so not sure if it would be interesting narrative if he was to come back. how would the CVs extend the story forward? whereas, if they split up, then narrative wise, there are plenty of ways to keep the drama going no?

Yes, surprisingly he never blamed Nandinii nor Mauli for the breaking of the marriage. It was always him and his feelings. He has been firm for a long time and adding to your point, he tells Mauli to forgive and move on. Then he also tells Nandini, that Mauli's hurt is always going to impact all three of us. That means, he knows that till Mauli forgives them neither they nor she will ever be fully happy but its needs to come from Mauli and they cannot do anything about it. Mauli has to find her way on her own. Very modern way of handling the situation and thinking, I would say.

Re the baby angle,like you I kept thinking where they are taking the story, because though the signs were K and N separation, they kept showing Mauli being shown the mirror. I think if we see the story from a EMA and its aftermath POV, then yes, uniting K and M does not make sense because but if we look at it from a star crossed forbidden love story then its makes total sense. That's where they are heading.

Yesterday, Nandini said grahan which mean eclipse to her happiness that every time they unite or she is on the verge of finding happiness, she sees a ray of hope but then she is pushed into night of darkness. Now its on her, if she takes that darkness on herself or make it into a baby's future. I think Kunal will accept the baby but it will be difficult for him to let Nandini go and thats where she needs to step in to push him away. At least she is thinking and looking at it from all sides, before deciding on a course of action. Based on the alter ego conversation, I do not think she is ready to steal a father from the child but then whats next.

May be the route that they are going is to show the other side of the picture where if after EMA, two people unite, how miserable their life can be, so divorce sometimes is the ideal way or the ITV favorite where they can again find their way back to love but that takes Nandini totally out of picture. I do not see them making her negative as of now. Other might be that Nandini, might go away but find herself pregnant and then later Mauli might reunite Kunal and Nandini. I keep going back to sindoor kala, where unknowingly Kunal puts sindoor on Mauli but then Mauli transfers that to Nandini,

The bottom line is they need to revamp both this characters and if its to be in a positive way then the only way they can do it is through sacrifice, pain and separation.

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mango

@mango.falooda

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Posted: 6 years ago

#597

@pamk06 - that makes sense. forgot about the whole forbidden love angle. yea, if that is the way forward, then can see mauli and kunal uniting. however, many viewers might have a meltdown with that? 😆

on another note, can I say how much I miss the zingers that usually happens on itv. the fast paced dialogues between two characters that just crack you up. rajdeep is great but other than him, we hardly have great dialogues that make you giggle. as these characters change, it would be fun if the CVs could add some masala to the dialogues. kind of gets boring where we mostly get stares or silences or cooking or tears. and please no more festivals with random crossovers of characters we don't know appearing and mouthing some dialogues.

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@pamk06

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Posted: 6 years ago

#598

@mango_pudding: Yes, I wish there would be some fun elements. Rajdeep is the only character who gives us those laugh aloud moments. I still cannot get over Rajdeep expression when he heard the nurse congratulating the Mauli. It was so funny. Do need some fun elements in this show...

Coming to the episode, against popular opinion, I am so irked with Radhika from yesterday. Forget the dialogues but why was she putting all the responsibility on Nandini. Why is Nandini responsible for her son accepting or not accepting his child? Nandini did not lure Kunal, it is Kunal's decision to be with Nandini. They never questioned his decision thinking he is faking and now when he has confirmed instead of holding him responsible she has put all the blame on Nandini. She says she is going to make him realize his responsibility and , instead of making him realize, she has transferred it to Nandini. Once Nandiini says, "I will do it" she has very happily come back home. Why isn't there a phone to connect to your son? I really do not understand this mother-son relationship. First it was Mauli who was responsible for keeping Kunal in line and now very conveniently its Nandini responsibility to bring Kunal back on line because its Nandini mistake that Kunal is so at fault or in love. Why is it not a mother's responsibility to confront him?

Also, why is it always the women at fault? She cursed Nandini for the kids, why not her son? Her son can be father but Nandini cannot be mother? Why this discrimination? Only Nandini was not in their relationship and her son's marriage was not Nandini responsibility. it was his, he broke it, he betrayed his wife, he broke his home. They are putting him on the pedestal like some God and still treating him like a kid who is incapable of taking any responsibility or decisions.

There was a scene where Kunal says that he does not understand why everybody goes to Nandini to scream at her, why is no one telling me anything? I am so with him on him, why is no one holding him responsible and giving him a piece of mind, like not even his mother. The only person who has bashed Kunal and who is holding Kunal responsible for this whole affair is Kunal himself. No one else..

PS: On a completely separate note, I am so loving the golfer and the sister realtionship. I cannot wait to see the episode when he finds out that her crush was his brother or when the SIL finds out how the blind date is connected to her. 😊

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mango

@mango.falooda

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Posted: 6 years ago

#599

kekeke... @pamk06 -- you are not the only one who was irked with radhika. there are quite a few of us wondering why kunal never gets blamed or pulled up for his actions. why don't his family actually talk to him?

like you said, kunal is more than willing to take the blame and responsibility for his actions but no one is interested in hearing his opinion. somehow, that also seems like a kind of punishment. her behaviour is so strange that I sometimes wonder if he is her actual son. why is he being treated like a puppet? was he too goody goody and obedient while growing up? it is way too weird for me to comprehend. even my aunt (who would define TRP aunties) finds her actions as a mother weird. after watching the ep, she said, "what is the point of talking to nandini? as a mother, shouldn't she be talking to her son?"

P.S -- don't you love that there are 4 romances in that 5drama? all of them are highly entertaining and have a different tone from each other. the golfer's romance is hysterically awkward and laugh out loud. 😆 so which ep did you get to?

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@pamk06

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Posted: 6 years ago

#600

@mango: I would like to know the back story there too. Right now I am even irked with Mauli, like even after hearing all those things from Kunal, she is still waiting for him to return. Her dialogues to nandini kind of suggested that right, that will you return him if her is baby?Again they are treating Him as a gift which can pass from one hand to other? And she is ready to accept him? Then what happen to her reason that child should not be a reason for reconciliation.

PS: I am on epi 35, lot of late nights due to it 😛 I do not like the brother story so I fast forward his scenes but rest all is pretty good and each character is so well defined and has set of boundaries in their behavior. Like the golfer, he is still a jerk to other people except for her, that's so sweet but has also soften up a little bit. The In laws kind of remind me of oldies in this show with their selfish motives sometimes.

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