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@ProfMcGonagall

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+ 8

Posted: 7 years ago

#321

I've given up on this show completely. I'll give it one more week and then aasta la vista baby. I watch shows to de-stress from my work life, not to get even more stressed with bad writing and CVs' goof-ups.

Today was just too much. Nandini is getting ready to go to Navratri with Kunal. Where? Does she not realize that Kunal will probably take her to their society Navratri and then what? How does one explain that he came with the other woman and not his wife?

Forget that. What is Dida doing?!! She's trying to force Nandini out of Kunal and Mauli's life. First Mauli and Nandini were making decisions on Kunal's life and now Dida is making decisions on Kunal and Mauli's life. Did she not even think about what Mauli might be going through even once? Unbelievable!

And Kunal? Seriously man! Can't you speak up and tell Dida that you can't do all this because you love Nandini and not Mauli?

The CVs are really making this "badalte rishte". First Kunal and Nandini cheat on Mauli and break her heart. And now they're trying to show that Kunal and Mauli are "cheating" on Nandini and breaking her heart. Then this will lead to a revenge drama where Nandini will become embittered that Kunal just used her and never truly loved her.

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@mango.falooda

Rocker

+ 4

Posted: 7 years ago

#322

Originally posted by: WhyHate
I've given up on this show completely. I'll give it one more week and then aasta la vista baby. I watch shows to de-stress from my work life, not to get even more stressed with bad writing and CVs' goof-ups.

Today was just too much. Nandini is getting ready to go to Navratri with Kunal. Where? Does she not realize that Kunal will probably take her to their society Navratri and then what? How does one explain that he came with the other woman and not his wife?

Forget that. What is Dida doing?!! She's trying to force Nandini out of Kunal and Mauli's life. First Mauli and Nandini were making decisions on Kunal's life and now Dida is making decisions on Kunal and Mauli's life. Did she not even think about what Mauli might be going through even once? Unbelievable!

And Kunal? Seriously man! Can't you speak up and tell Dida that you can't do all this because you love Nandini and not Mauli?

The CVs are really making this "badalte rishte". First Kunal and Nandini cheat on Mauli and break her heart. And now they're trying to show that Kunal and Mauli are "cheating" on Nandini and breaking her heart. Then this will lead to a revenge drama where Nandini will become embittered that Kunal just used her and never truly loved her.

you wrote what was in my mind! am okay with watching a relationship drama if the writing is well done or if it makes some kind of logical narrative but all these googlys and brain freezes is downright exasperating. I was getting so ticked off watching dadi smile like she has done this amazing thing even as both kunal and mauli look superbly miserable. both of them should have told dadi off and just walked out. ugh. and to top it off, she faked her heart attack and both of them are such horrible doctors that they have no clue.

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@pamk06

Dazzler

+ 2

Posted: 7 years ago

#323

Originally posted by: SummerRain7
[ Mauli really is going to have a tough time. No matter how strong or rude she will behave outwardly, when they will be forced to do those couply things ,she will have flashbacks of their moments and that will really test her resolve.
Nandini ka reaction did come across as insecurity at first but it could be what you said as well. In fact when he left her, I was actually thinking, what if those women come back to harass her. I really wish makers would give Nandini a life apart from Kunal. If that unreliable man doesn't keep his promise, she literally has no one in this world and nowhere to go. And I want her to get to a more healthy state of mind first. But this month long separation could push her further into depression. I wish the makers would do something for her, other than just dressing her up.

Bold - Babaji, at the moment does look CONPHUSED about what to do with Kunal !😆 But then again, going by the nature of ITV soaps, what is happening could be deliberate or in other words it could be story being sacrificed for a TRP driven track.

Most daily soaps, if you have observed, lack coherent and fluid story telling and consistent characterization. This is because they rely on track based story telling. The story is pretty much the same everywhere, two central characters and their journey unfolding in tracks. The trend that I see now is a hate track, followed by falling in love track, then a misunderstanding track, a separation track, jealousy track, reunion track, shaadi wala track (longest 😃) again misunderstandings, separations, mishaps etc. Silsila ,however could not really fit into this, because EMA is the crux of this story, and an EMA story cannot ideally follow that kind of a trajectory. But now, with Dida trying to play cupid and forcing Kunal and Mauli into situations, it is beginning to look like one of those 'tracks', an angst-ridden, misunderstanding wala track set amidst festivities. Zabardasti ka dance, zabardasti ka rituals, majboor, laachari, we'll get to see everything and Kunal's character is likely to be butchered the most in this track. I think the directors will just ask Shakti to put on an expression that will be hard for the audience to decipher 😃 . And if they do not give us a proper convo between Kunal and Nandini, imagine the kind of confusion it will create 😆 And I think that's exactly what they want!

Your feelings on Kunal so crystal clear. I know you love Mauli and try to understand Nandini but Kunal for you is just 🤢

Yes, ITV does follow a certain pattern which I have come to recognize over the years so know exactly when to stop watching a show. They also do not give much attention to ML. He is almost like a showpiece in most shows. But atleast the OLV is showing a conversation between Nandini and Kunal so thank God for small mercies.

Yes, Shakti just going to do that and the confusion will continue. I just want them to stop with this rhona-dhona and move on to the next part. I heard they were going for leap. When will that happen?

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@SummerRain7

Navigator

+ 2

Posted: 7 years ago

#324

Originally posted by: pamk06

Your feelings on Kunal so crystal clear. I know you love Mauli and try to understand Nandini but Kunal for you is just 🤢

Yes, ITV does follow a certain pattern which I have come to recognize over the years so know exactly when to stop watching a show. They also do not give much attention to ML. He is almost like a showpiece in most shows. But atleast the OLV is showing a conversation between Nandini and Kunal so thank God for small mercies.

Yes, Shakti just going to do that and the confusion will continue. I just want them to stop with this rhona-dhona and move on to the next part. I heard they were going for leap. When will that happen?

Egggjaaactly!! I have no sympathy for that man😡!! I honestly expected him to show some committment to Nandini. But no, false promises again!! Now he is hurting Mauli and Nandini both. And I blame him more for not holding his ground in front of Dida. Like I said yesterday, the least he could have done is to spare Mauli the torture that she is going through right now.

And, I feel ITV butchers both male and female leads .The difference is female characters are butchered to make them mahaan and the male characters are butchered to make them monsters or to turn them into furnitures in the background.

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mango

@mango.falooda

Rocker

+ 4

Posted: 7 years ago

#325

Originally posted by: pamk06

Your feelings on Kunal so crystal clear. I know you love Mauli and try to understand Nandini but Kunal for you is just 🤢

Yes, ITV does follow a certain pattern which I have come to recognize over the years so know exactly when to stop watching a show. They also do not give much attention to ML. He is almost like a showpiece in most shows. But atleast the OLV is showing a conversation between Nandini and Kunal so thank God for small mercies.

Yes, Shakti just going to do that and the confusion will continue. I just want them to stop with this rhona-dhona and move on to the next part. I heard they were going for leap. When will that happen?

am okay with tracks even when they are predictable but this one is ridiculous because kunal is like a ping pong ball. he professed and promised one woman something and then in the next scene, he is back with his wife and caving into some emotional blackmail. if the CVs were determined to write this as a fated love story, then where is the determination? kunal as usual just sits there and lets the women in his family take all the shots. no wonder he has a saving prince complex. if they had to do this track, then they are basically rewriting all the previous episodes where we viewers were clobbered in the head that this is a divine love story. no, it isn't then. it was just a mid life crisis from a man who has no spine to own any of his actions or open his mouth. 😳

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@pamk06

Dazzler

+ 2

Posted: 7 years ago

#326

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

am okay with tracks even when they are predictable but this one is ridiculous because kunal is like a ping pong ball. he professed and promised one woman something and then in the next scene, he is back with his wife and caving into some emotional blackmail. if the CVs were determined to write this as a fated love story, then where is the determination? kunal as usual just sits there and lets the women in his family take all the shots. no wonder he has a saving prince complex. if they had to do this track, then they are basically rewriting all the previous episodes where we viewers were clobbered in the head that this is a divine love story. no, it isn't then. it was just a mid life crisis from a man who has no spine to own any of his actions or open his mouth. 😳

Well we have been asking him to open his mouth since the beginning of this whole fiasco. The only time I have seen him opening his mouth is in front of Nandini because she herself does not speak. Hence he gets a chance to speak.

Frankly, the only reason this track made sense is to ensure that Kunal stays with Mauli and Nandini goes away. Then leap. I know its unfair on Mauli but there needs to be atleast one self-sacrificing diva in the show, right? But if they start showing that he is falling in love with Mauli again then they are literally rewriting the whole story and butchering his character on the way. There is nothing left there other than his commitment to Nandini. If they take that too away then what is left.

it would be a total waste of last 3 months. They could have just shown it as mid-life crisis from the beginning. If nothing, the backlash would have reduced.

As you say, not speaking really looks like a family trait.

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Weasleys Wheezes

@ProfMcGonagall

Voyager

+ 8

Posted: 7 years ago

#327

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

you wrote what was in my mind! am okay with watching a relationship drama if the writing is well done or if it makes some kind of logical narrative but all these googlys and brain freezes is downright exasperating. I was getting so ticked off watching dadi smile like she has done this amazing thing even as both kunal and mauli look superbly miserable. both of them should have told dadi off and just walked out. ugh. and to top it off, she faked her heart attack and both of them are such horrible doctors that they have no clue.

Well Kunal and Mauli never actually examined Dida like a doctor does so I forgive them for that. Heck I've fooled my masi, whose a doctor, several times when I don't want to do something. I'll pretend I have a headache or a stomachache or I'm just feeling queasy. Even when she examines me, it's hard to find out that the person faked it. 😆

But my issue is that they are taking this show down the exact same path as most Indian shows go. Now Kunal will save Mauli from her burning dupatta and she'll think that Kunal still has feelings for her. In the meantime, Nandini will see them together and feel that Kunal just used her for his sexual desires and will become embittered and go away. She'll become a big and successful businesswoman, but without any feelings. In the meantime, Kunal and Mauli will get back into their life though they won't be happy with each other.

Then a few years later, Nandini will return in their life with the motive of revenge. She'll show what a big businesswoman she has become and then she'll wreck havoc in Kunal and Mauli's life not thinking for a minute that one was her best friend and the other her love. Or maybe they'll show Kunal falling in love with Nandini all over again and trying to win her back behind Mauli's back. In that case they'll make Dida the plotter and planner. Either way, they'll stretch the story for as long as necessary, before finally ending with Kunal and Nandini together and Mauli alone or maybe they'll see that everyone wants Kunal and Mauli together so they'll do that and Nandini leaving tearfully with a baby on the way.

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@ProfMcGonagall

Voyager

+ 8

Posted: 7 years ago

#328

Originally posted by: pamk06

Well we have been asking him to open his mouth since the beginning of this whole fiasco. The only time I have seen him opening his mouth is in front of Nandini because she herself does not speak. Hence he gets a chance to speak.

Frankly, the only reason this track made sense is to ensure that Kunal stays with Mauli and Nandini goes away. Then leap. I know its unfair on Mauli but there needs to be atleast one self-sacrificing diva in the show, right? But if they start showing that he is falling in love with Mauli again then they are literally rewriting the whole story and butchering his character on the way. There is nothing left there other than his commitment to Nandini. If they take that too away then what is left.

it would be a total waste of last 3 months. They could have just shown it as mid-life crisis from the beginning. If nothing, the backlash would have reduced.

As you say, not speaking really looks like a family trait.

The thing that I feel with Kunal is that he expects problems to just resolve themselves. When he and Nandini got involved, he just expected the problem of this being an EMA to resolve itself. He claimed he didn't want to hurt Mauli and that's why he wasn't saying anything, but really he just didn't want to get involved in any problems.

Now that Mauli knows, he just expects everything to resolve itself. So when Nandini or Mauli make some new decision he just keeps quiet and goes along with it, expecting that it'll lead to a resolution where he will somehow end up in a good and happy situation.

I don't think he much cares about who he ends up with at this point. He just wants the issues to settle down and for him to be happy with whichever woman he ends up with.

I don't like this though. If he has committed to Nandini and professed his love, then why does he keep quiet in front of Dida? Mauli has already let him go. Why not just confess the same to Dida? Okay fine he doesn't want to hurt Dida. Then why doesn't he speak to or meet Nandini? How will Dida know if he did or didn't? I mean Mauli has already given him the green light. It's not like she'll go and complain to Dida that "oh look Kunal went to meet Nandini". The whole situation would be resolved and there is no need of a leap with Nandini leaving if Kunal would just take some action for once in his life.

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music_l0ver036

@music_l0ver036

Stunner

+ 3

Posted: 7 years ago

#329

I was gonna make a new post but then I realized most of them have to do with terrible writing and I guess this is a great post to talk about that. I love reading the conversations that happen in this thread even though I rarely write in it.

I wanted to ask what people think the writers are doing with Nandani. She is layered and complex and there are so many parts of her that is not explored for more than episode or two. I liked that they had mentioned depression in the beginning but it didn't really go more than that. I mean if you've created a character that has so much going on in her life and rarely ever show the depths of who they are and how they see the world, what was the point? Once they wrote Nandani's abuse aspect, did people not brainstorm more than one possibility of how she would deal with it? She has abandonment issues, thats obvious and it was even more obvious yesterday when she was saying that "oh kunal told me he'll come back so why should I be worried?" I actually did like the desperation she felt, like she was going to lose him already. But I don't believe that she wouldn't think about Mauli at all. It was fine when they first started because it wwas new and she was scared she had feelings for Kunal so she didn't think about Mauli. But now? it makes no sense.

Part of the reason may be that Kunal has been reassuring her so much, saying that they'll be together forever, that their love is not dirty, he'll support her. And that is what Nandani both has been needing and wanting so obviously she believes him. Nandani is a big girl and is able to make her own decisions but a lot of her decisions are swayed by Kunal. He's definitely taking advantage of her in my opinion.

Speaking of gross writing, wowww how predictable that Dida was lying about the heartattack. How overplayed is the emotional blackmail shit that women have to go through. I felt so bad for Mauli and honestly quite surprised that Dida was willing to put Mauli through that. But I did like the questions she asked Kunal and Mauli, their separation (or rather Kuna's betrayal) did feel like it happened overnight. They couldn't keep their hands off each other and had so much love and respect for each other and now poof! gone.

Which takes us to my final point. I love Nandani but I don't believe in KuNan a bit. There was no development to their relationship, I mean they did bond but it was one sided from Kunal. They did have moments where they spent time together but those moments were not dates or they didn't get to know each other. It just happened because of circumstances. I don't believe that they're in love. They don't talk to each other about each other. Their conversations don't dig deeper than simple likes and dislikes.

Has Kunal talked to Nandani about how she feels, her anxiety her PTSD, her trauma? No, and that is such an oversight. Nothing they do has been enough for me to believe that they love each other.

And I hate that theres so many posts made about where people make fun of her anxiety and depression and if that part was explored with more caution or care, I wouldn't feel so angry. I know it's made about a characters but the psychological aspect of the character is never analyzed well in this forum. I know that sounds very "moral-policing" but it's not just about Nandani. I wish mental health wasn't such a taboo subject so commenting about someone's symptoms about their mental illness would be done in a more respectful manner.

I feel like I'm invading this thread lmao but here are my feelings towards the show as of right now.

Edited by music_l0ver036 - 7 years ago

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@pamk06

Dazzler

+ 2

Posted: 7 years ago

#330

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

am okay with tracks even when they are predictable but this one is ridiculous

Just finished seeing the episode. My only reaction was OMG😡. Seriously, is this how you try to fix a marriage. I really wanted Dida to buckle up and be the matriarch of the family but in my wildest dreams I did not think that they will use sindoor, haven and chunari to do it. Seriously, which era is this? Are marriages seriously fixed with all this? If yes, then why do we have divorces? People should just start investing in all this. Do a pooja and poof... all problems are solved.

Communication, Dida, communication. Thats what I wanted you to use. Make Mauli ask questions of her "Kyun, kab, kaise". Force Kunal to answer them. Find out why he got attracted to Nandini. What was missing in his life that she fulfilled? Send them for marriage counseling. Thats how you fix marriages. Not by forcing them to stay together and making them do all these rituals. If nothing else, Mauli should know that it was not her fault and she will be able to move on in her life. She will be able to rebuild that confidence in herself that your grandson that broken and somewhere in future be able to forgive these people. Kunal will be able to move on in his life, may be with guilt but at least with ways to handle it and also with an understanding of the errors of his ways on how he could handled the whole situation in a better way.

Seriously, they are showing EMA. Its a very sensitive topic, They need to show how to handle it, the aftermath of it, the steps to fix it, the steps to recover from it, the steps to move on from it, not only for the person cheated but for everyone involved in it. Because it does impact everybody. Not this BS

Are CVs really trying to sell us the idea of divine marriage after divine love? What Nandini is Pyaar and Mauli is Kismat???

Last but not the least, @summerain7, I really wanted Nandini's Kunal to come out and put a stop to this because he definitely can do it, this version of his will never open his mouth.

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