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mango

@mango.falooda

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Posted: 7 years ago

#311

Originally posted by: pamk06

Not sure but it will depend on what they show. 😭

I am so with you on the family thing. I totally get Dida stand but I am so surprised with Yamini. She is the mother, shouldn't she be talking to her son and finding out his intentions, asking him for an explanation. She is supporting her DIL, her MIL just put her DIL in a tough spot, shouldn't there atleast be a conversation between mother and son about some ground rules. The biggest issue I have is, why are they not addressing the elephant in the room? Why are they ignoring this whole affair? Their son left them for another woman who he has known only for some months. Isnt that huge and they are still not questioning him. It like "Mistakes happen, lets ignore and move on. And if this was a fling, Kunal would have been so happy. He would be like, Ohh good, they have accepted me back, thats great, lets go find another girl. 😊

The solution can definitely not be work on our marriage and create circumstantial scenarios to get them close to each other. They are old and mature. By this time, they should know physical closeness does not equate emotional closeness. Dida is thinking that Nandini's beauty enticed him but Yamini should atleast ask if thats the case. At this moment, I totally get why Kunal got attracted to Nandini because none of these women talk to him or ask him what he actually wants. Every time he blows up, they shut him down.

@bold: I am so with you here. I would understand Mauli giving her love importance but if Kunal does that then I would be done.

PS: I watch BP too and I do like Aditya and his craziness (not talking about him forcing Zoya to accept his love though (shaking my head)) but Zoya drive me up the wall sometimes.

I dont know why ITV always insists on stopping the marriage at the nth moment. Always wonder, if that happens in real life, can we atleast have food? Or will that be a tad insensitive but wasting food is also not good,right?😆😆😆 Another mystery of life 😉

@bold -- as weird as this show is, right now, his relationship with nandini looks more functional because they actually talk about their issues unlike the rest of his family where he is forced to be a silent spectator. maybe thats part of the attraction that he gets to speak his voice? but since they have gone on and on about this fated love story, the CVs are really going to lose viewers if they switch to mauli now...

as for bepannah, I was totally shaking my head and so ticked off with aditya's psycho stalker behaviour and really burst out laughing when he said "mein stalker nahin hoon." 🤣 however, that show is far more entertaining and the character sketches are so clearly drawn. no need to break our head to know whats going on in the story. totally enjoying that drama :) ...

and as funny as it sounds, there are weddings that get cancelled in the last minute. there was one hilarious article in one of the tabloidish newspapers where the two families got into a spat over biriyani!! 🤣 basically, the guy's family had requested for one type of biriyani (maybe mutton or chicken) and the girl's family ignored their request and decided to go with something else and so both families had this ego battle which resulted in name calling and arguments and the wedding got cancelled. the headline was something like "all for biriyani" 🤣

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mango

@mango.falooda

Rocker

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Posted: 7 years ago

#312

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@pamk06

Dazzler

+ 2

Posted: 7 years ago

#313

Originally posted by: Angels11
Guys wanted 2 join in 2 discuss a few things.

1st I am not surprised with Dida coz that generation always believes in fixing a broken thing than replacing it. My own parents will keep repairing & using the same TV, mixie, fridge rather than throwing it out & buying a new 1. Its not tat I am comparing humans with gadgets. I am just pointing out their mindset. To them if there is an issue fix it, if there is a problem solve it. To them breaking a relationship means instead of solving a prob u r running away from it. Also for them marriages are for life. They dont easily accept divorce, live in etc.

Reg emotional blackmail our entire life we do tis or face it. Children do emotional blackmail 2 get things from adults. Mothers do it all the time with kids. Wives do it with husbands 😆 Hell even friends do it. They call u 4 an outing, u say No & they ll b like Mere liye tu itna bhi nahin kar sakti kya. I think its how we behave with ppl we love. Kinda haq banta hai. I am not justifying but saying tat its human tendency. We all do it with our loved ones. And invariably we all give in coz we love them & cant hurt them.

On Kunal I am totally lost. I ve never understood Kunal's character. Guy supposedly is madly in love & supportive of his wife. There were multiple times wen he helped Nandini without knowing she was Mauli's friend. He was not attracted to her any of those times. Then suddenly 1 day he sees her dancing in the rain & BHAM. I can perfectly understand if he desires her. Chalo lusty fellow, got attracted 2 a beautiful woman. But he started claiming tat he loves Nandini & Mauli is purana farz. Men say stuff like tis & use the LOVE word to get a woman in bed. But if tat is the case when alone CVs s'd ve shown tis clearly. But nahin they r still trying to convince tat its love & not lust. Chalo fine we ll swallow tat as well. Then y is he having thoughts bt Mauli. Why does he think of her when in bed in his mistress's house. Does tis mean he is just a pervert like Rajdeep. If tats the case y dint he cheat Mauli earlier. Even earlier Mauli was busy. Dont tell me there r no beautiful girls other than Nandini in Mumbai. So if its lust then y is he giving big big promises 2 Nandini. If its love then y is he thinking of Mauli. So this guy absolutely makes no sense.

Finally Nandini I am unhappy how everyone is giving her benefit of doubt by using this abuse & trauma card. How is being abused/raped related to being selfish & immune to others' pain. This character has taken a complete 360 turn. Earlier she climbed a hill to fulfill Dida's mannat & now she doesnt even care tat she had an attack. She made choco cake 4 Mauli & now she doesnt even bother 2 beg her forgiveness. This character & her behavior is absolutely weird!

Its love not lust and Cv's have been very adamant on that fact that frankly we all have accepted it.

Why is it love, how can it be love, is it possible that it is love, if this was love then what was that with Mauli, are questions that will be one of those mysteries that will always remained unresolved. We have theories but CV's have never given answers to it. I guess we have to go with "Pata nahi kaise hua bas ho gaya". They are telling us its emotions which made them helpless and careless. Are they right? May be and what Cvs are trying to show us is that sometimes some choices can be so costly that you pay the prize for it for your whole life because there is also something called "self-control" for those emotions which can be used in those situations.

Nandini was totally recovered from abuse and trauma when she decided to accept Kunal. The consummation was the result of the abuse but not confession. How can she do this to a best friend who helped her? You answered it, she become selfish. She wanted to feel love and she went for it. But why doesnt she beg for forgiveness? She is not going to leave Kunal so even if Mauli forgives her what is that going to achieve.

The other reason would be because she just does not care enough (She would have but not after Mauli broke her friendship again) and this is related to her past. They got estranged and Mauli left her. Nandini then survived seven years of abusive marriage. If she survived that without her friend, she can definitely survive the rest of her life. In her mind, Mauli left her once, so she conditioned herself to not get attached to her the second time and so when Mauli left her the second time, it might have not impacted her as much as it should have. You can say, she is loaner, believes that she will always be alone and people will always leave her because that's how she has conditioned herself to be, due to Rajdeep.

Till yesterday, she was even Ok with Kunal leaving her as long as he showered her with those crumbs of attention. But yesterday, changed everything. Kunal promising her the world, reassuring her that he is not going to leave, even when specifically asked by her will be a game changer. Now when he will not be able to fulfill those promises, all her fears of people leaving her will materialize, and that would be her downfall. We might even see her love turning to hate because she had thought Kunal was different and Kunal made her believe that he will never leave her. Or she might have mental breakdown. It would be interesting to see where they take us.

Well, as I already told on your post, if she would have not let Kunal go to Dida, then I would have agreed with you. But she did tell him to go and not worry about her. Her next words were an assurance to herself because that was her fear of those women talking but I totally agree that her dependency on Kunal is very unhealthy.

PS: I guess its easy to relate to Mauli because she is a replica of us but so difficult to relate to Nandini because she is so different from us 😊

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@pamk06

Dazzler

+ 2

Posted: 7 years ago

#314

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

since he set the expectations, nandini is not going to react well when he breaks them. kunal is the first guy who looked like she could trust and lean on. so if he turned out to be like everyone else in her life, then maybe she will just run?

if we go by that symbolic stuff where mauli's dupatta got caught in his bandage (how does that happen only in television?? 😆), he was going to yak it but before he could do it, mauli pulled it away sharply and abruptly -- if that is the symbolism of things to come, then we can see kunal slowly working himself to leave but mauli kicking him out swiftly before that happens.

and as for yamini, guess she wanted to make sure that kunal comes home. perhaps, she felt that he wouldn't if she called him? this family really does not talk about issues at all. so perhaps kunal not talking is just a malhotra family trait!

@bold : I think so too..and I wish it too...

@bold2: I so want this to happen. It would be a very appreciative change from all other ITV FL who accept the ML back whatever their deeds.

PS : BP is very easy to understand and hence I do not even visit that forum but this show just drive me crazy. Your biryani story 🤣🤣

Yes, Kunal and Nandini does seem to have more meaningful talks even their silence. No wonder he used to wake up in the night to talk to her😆😆😆

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Angels11

@Angels11

Rocker

+ 5

Posted: 7 years ago

#315

@Pamk06 But if its truly love & not lust he should make a stand no? Yes Dida is not well but did he ve the guts to tell at least his mom & Mauli tat yes u guys can hate me but I love Nandini now. Tat's wat Adi has done now in BP, fighting with his mom. Now tat's true. Yes here its EMA but if u had the courage to ve an affair for ur so called love then u should ve the courage to stick 2 ur stance & fight even ur family. So no I can never accept its true love unless Kunal really does tat. Tat way even Mauli will be free & she can start her journey without this emotional baggage. If their relationship is not dirty but true as he claimed to Nandini should he not be fighting for this relationship? Basically he is neither loyal to Mauli nor Nandini. Even he doesnt know who he loves 😕

Reg ur reply 2 my post why did she not care bt Dida? Was she not shown to be caring towards Kunal's family earlier. Tat's y I am saying her character is v inconsistent!

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SummerRain7

@SummerRain7

Navigator

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Posted: 7 years ago

#316

Originally posted by: pamk06

I was so proud of Mauli yesterday but she is going to have some tough days ahead fighting her love and being adamant on her stand especially with Dida throwing them together at very turn.

Nandini assuring herself, IMO was because of her fear of those women. Its not insecurity yet, but agree, that her dependency on him is very unhealthy. It can also be because there is no one else in her life now. The only person who is talking to her is Kunal. I hope the fear of losing Kunal jolts her enough to come out of her bubble and start asking questions like what she really wants from life and what she would do if he leaves (Asking too much of her, right?)

I think, till Kunal made all those promises to her, she was all OK with sharing him or even with his leaving. But now, when she questioned him that "when you leave" and he assured her, he is never going to go, seeing him going back to his family is going to be her downfall. He has build all those expectations in her yesterday and when those get crushed, not sure how she is going to handle it. Either she will come out stronger or have a complete mental breakdown.

I, so, wish they show us that conversation between them and not drag it under the blanket like usual but I think they are going to use it to create misunderstanding

Atleast, Kunal is shamefaced but still adamant on who he wants to be with. If they start showing him wavering now or Mauli accepting his apologies, I would be seriously done with his show, especially as they have pushed the other divine love down our throats for past three months.

@bold: Even I was surprised. Like what was he thinking? But I guess, he has been sharing the bed when he was cheating, so for him it really might not have mattered. (shaking my head)😆

PS: Do you also think that the divine baba is very confused and he has no idea what to do with Kunal? May be they are using a coin toss and showing signals based on the winner of the day? Or baba also loves Kunal and hence he is putitng so much effort in writing his fate. 😉. Sochne wali baat hain ki, yeh Kunal mein aisa kya hain, ki baba is also not leaving him 😆

Question : Why did Yamini personally come to escort Kunal? Were phones not working?

Mauli really is going to have a tough time. No matter how strong or rude she will behave outwardly, when they will be forced to do those couply things ,she will have flashbacks of their moments and that will really test her resolve.

Nandini ka reaction did come across as insecurity at first but it could be what you said as well. In fact when he left her, I was actually thinking, what if those women come back to harass her. I really wish makers would give Nandini a life apart from Kunal. If that unreliable man doesn't keep his promise, she literally has no one in this world and nowhere to go. And I want her to get to a more healthy state of mind first. But this month long separation could push her further into depression. I wish the makers would do something for her, other than just dressing her up.

Bold - Babaji, at the moment does look CONPHUSED about what to do with Kunal !😆 But then again, going by the nature of ITV soaps, what is happening could be deliberate or in other words it could be story being sacrificed for a TRP driven track.

Most daily soaps, if you have observed, lack coherent and fluid story telling and consistent characterization. This is because they rely on track based story telling. The story is pretty much the same everywhere, two central characters and their journey unfolding in tracks. The trend that I see now is a hate track, followed by falling in love track, then a misunderstanding track, a separation track, jealousy track, reunion track, shaadi wala track (longest 😃) again misunderstandings, separations, mishaps etc. Silsila ,however could not really fit into this, because EMA is the crux of this story, and an EMA story cannot ideally follow that kind of a trajectory. But now, with Dida trying to play cupid and forcing Kunal and Mauli into situations, it is beginning to look like one of those 'tracks', an angst-ridden, misunderstanding wala track set amidst festivities. Zabardasti ka dance, zabardasti ka rituals, majboor, laachari, we'll get to see everything and Kunal's character is likely to be butchered the most in this track. I think the directors will just ask Shakti to put on an expression that will be hard for the audience to decipher 😃 . And if they do not give us a proper convo between Kunal and Nandini, imagine the kind of confusion it will create 😆 And I think that's exactly what they want!

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@pamk06

Dazzler

+ 2

Posted: 7 years ago

#317

Originally posted by: Angels11
@Pamk06 But if its truly love & not lust he should make a stand no? Yes Dida is not well but did he ve the guts to tell at least his mom & Mauli tat yes u guys can hate me but I love Nandini now. Tat's wat Adi has done now in BP, fighting with his mom. Now tat's true. Yes here its EMA but if u had the courage to ve an affair for ur so called love then u should ve the courage to stick 2 ur stance & fight even ur family. So no I can never accept its true love unless Kunal really does tat. Tat way even Mauli will be free & she can start her journey without this emotional baggage. If their relationship is not dirty but true as he claimed to Nandini should he not be fighting for this relationship? Basically he is neither loyal to Mauli nor Nandini. Even he doesnt know who he loves 😕

Reg ur reply 2 my post why did she not care bt Dida? Was she not shown to be caring towards Kunal's family earlier. Tat's y I am saying her character is v inconsistent!

Yes he should have made a stand but I am totally quoting what you wrote regarding emotional blackmail.

"Reg emotional blackmail our entire life we do tis or face it. Children do emotional blackmail 2 get things from adults. Mothers do it all the time with kids. Wives do it with husbands 😆 Hell even friends do it. They call u 4 an outing, u say No & they ll b like Mere liye tu itna bhi nahin kar sakti kya. I think its how we behave with ppl we love. Kinda haq banta hai. I am not justifying but saying tat its human tendency. We all do it with our loved ones. And invariably we all give in coz we love them & cant hurt them."

Yesterday, he did not agree but Dida just assumed that he is saying "OK" to her request whereas he was saying "OK Ok" to calm her down. Same like Mauli, she was also trying to pacify Dida without agreeing but once Dida assumed, they did not have the heart to tell her "No" because of the @bold.

If she is not shown an ounce of care for Mauli who has been her best friend, why would you expect her to show care for Dida? The only person she cares about is Kunal and his happiness. She knew his happiness was in his going to Dida and she said go, dont worry about me. Then she assures herself that he will come back if needed which was because of her fear of those women coming back and the repeat of the public humiliation.

@bold: I totally agree on this, we over here have tried to understand her, made posts about it and then next day Cvs show something, basically telling us "Sorry, try again, that's not Nandini"

At this point, I totally blame their love for Dida (and the divine signal giving baba) which is stopping both of them from moving on with their life.

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Angels11

@Angels11

Rocker

+ 5

Posted: 7 years ago

#318

Originally posted by: pamk06

Yes he should have made a stand but I am totally quoting what you wrote regarding emotional blackmail.

"Reg emotional blackmail our entire life we do tis or face it. Children do emotional blackmail 2 get things from adults. Mothers do it all the time with kids. Wives do it with husbands 😆 Hell even friends do it. They call u 4 an outing, u say No & they ll b like Mere liye tu itna bhi nahin kar sakti kya. I think its how we behave with ppl we love. Kinda haq banta hai. I am not justifying but saying tat its human tendency. We all do it with our loved ones. And invariably we all give in coz we love them & cant hurt them."

Yesterday, he did not agree but Dida just assumed that he is saying "OK" to her request whereas he was saying "OK Ok" to calm her down. Same like Mauli, she was also trying to pacify Dida without agreeing but once Dida assumed, they did not have the heart to tell her "No" because of the @bold.

If she is not shown an ounce of care for Mauli who has been her best friend, why would you expect her to show care for Dida? The only person she cares about is Kunal and his happiness. She knew his happiness was in his going to Dida and she said go, dont worry about me. Then she assures herself that he will come back if needed which was because of her fear of those women coming back and the repeat of the public humiliation.

@bold: I totally agree on this, we over here have tried to understand her, made posts about it and then next day Cvs show something, basically telling us "Sorry, try again, that's not Nandini"

At this point, I totally blame their love for Dida (and the divine signal giving baba) which is stopping both of them from moving on with their life.

Yes Dida is not well but did he ve the guts to tell at least his mom & Mauli tat yes u guys can hate me but I love Nandini now.

I am not talking bt Dida. I am talking bt Mauli & Yamini. They r not sick rt? So he s'd ve the courage to tell them about his love rt? Tat's y I am saying repeatedly tat he is not loyal & not capable of loving anyone except himself. He loves neither Mauli nor Nandini

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SummerRain7

@SummerRain7

Navigator

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Posted: 7 years ago

#319

Originally posted by: Angels11

Yes Dida is not well but did he ve the guts to tell at least his mom & Mauli tat yes u guys can hate me but I love Nandini now.

I am not talking bt Dida. I am talking bt Mauli & Yamini. They r not sick rt? So he s'd ve the courage to tell them about his love rt? Tat's y I am saying repeatedly tat he is not loyal & not capable of loving anyone except himself. He loves neither Mauli nor Nandini

Mauli and Yamini haven't tried to make Kunal agree to Dida's demand. He is doing that on his own. Mauli is ready to give him a divorce, and his mother(strangely) has not even for once asked him about his relationship. So there is no need for him to say anything to them in terms of clarification. And neither Mauli nor Yamini (assuming from her behavior) has any expectation from him at this point. He should have ideally opened his mouth to Dida , but that did not happen.

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@pamk06

Dazzler

+ 2

Posted: 7 years ago

#320

Originally posted by: Angels11

Yes Dida is not well but did he ve the guts to tell at least his mom & Mauli tat yes u guys can hate me but I love Nandini now.

I am not talking bt Dida. I am talking bt Mauli & Yamini. They r not sick rt? So he s'd ve the courage to tell them about his love rt? Tat's y I am saying repeatedly tat he is not loyal & not capable of loving anyone except himself. He loves neither Mauli nor Nandini

His mother, I am not going to speak about because I have a list of issues with her.

Not telling Mauli is Cvs way of keeping that door open if they decide to reunite them. See, their relationship is very verbal. So for Mauli to totally and completely move on, she needs that verbal confirmation from Kunal that he loves Nandini, their marriage is over. Till date, Kunal has not given that. If Kunal gives that and If after that we see Mauli accepting Kunal back, then it would be a total assassination of her character.

This way, they can show Mauli having second thoughts about Kunal's real feelings toward her and ping-pong within her. Its almost like our golden olden days of initial crush. Everything our crush, does we used to connect it thinking, "Oh he likes me too" till we actually get the confirmed news that he likes someone else. For Mauli, this has to come from Kunal and CVs are not going to show that till they get the actual feel of what audience wants based on the TRP.

This one month is going to be very difficult and tough for her. Dida really has no idea what she has asked of Mauli. Kunal is going to do things because its expected of him or its his nature, Mauli might take it as if he cares for her. I so hope I am wrong.

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