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Posted: 8 years ago
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Nice post..
RS na socha Samjha ka Rangeela ka saath milkar Show Ka Naamkaran kia hai Kalpane se pare toh Show vi Humare Kalpana se pare hai 😳
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I even doubt dose saumya really loves Harman ? Bcz till now she dint said once that i have to do this bcz i can be with him nada she always says i want chat shelter for myself and this is the only way.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@ Naaju - you're partially right and partially wrong . First of all Gurdaspur is a town and not a village . I don't think so you might have seen large green fields , cows or ox grazing fields , tubewells , well , ppl using primitive agricultural method and farming , ppl using ox for tilling the land ... If you have seen all these or any one of this then you maybe right but when I was watching this show then Gurdaspur was a town with its own panchayat , police , hospital , etc and not a village . Honor killing happened in TN few months back where the girls father had sent his ppl to burn alive the daughter and her husband who were at the bus station .. I guess TN is a village or a suburb and not a metropolitian city then ... Similarly dowry death and honor killing are happening in WB , TN and Delhi so I suppose even these states are subarbs or villages and not metropolitian city ... Its a myth that ppl in mumbai or delhi are much broad minded bcz ppl live in the same society and follows the same rule .. I'll tell you one incident and this I witnessed 2-3 years back while I was doing my graduation .. I stay in a metropolitian city in a posh locality so obviously ppl staying in my locality were very aristrocratic ppl and most of them were businessman and working in good reputed IT firms ... So one day my dad was dropping me to college and I was sitting at the backseat of the car . We halted at a red light and i saw that there was one new Range rovers car besides me , so I knew it that the owner must be very rich since RR is anyways expensive . That car dint had the dark black glasses so thing were visible that what was happening inside the car .. Ther was a driver driving the car and the owner (i suppose) was sitting backseat .. IDK about the other metropolitian city but my city has lots of enunchs and beggars and so its a common site of enunchs knocking on cars window and bus and asking for money .. So the same thing happened that time .. 2 enunch came from the other side of the road and they started knocking on the car's window .. That man dint pull down the window and just kept on looking at them with disgust ... I had that much of courtesy to pull dowm the cars window and tell that person that I dont have money and anyways enunchs doesnt even bother to look at students .. So now tell me if ppl living in suburbs and villages are the only orthodox or regressive ppl while ppl living in metropitian cities are quite classy and they treat everyone with respect ?? Even in metropolitian cities among aristrocratic classes dowry , caste is prevelant ... So in all the whole India whether rich or poor , village or city - ppl in every nook and corner needs to change for the betterment of society ... And Here I agree with you partially about RS but I would like to add that the Govt of India should call for emergency meeting and shut down all these channels like SP , Zee TV , Colors and their brother sister channels like utsav , OK , anmol , rishtey etc ... Bcz all these channels are just showing nonsense and more nonsense ... Sony toh waise bhi nazar nai ata toh usey bandh karo ya na karo koi farak nai padta ...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Ishu
I never said dat orthodox ppl live in only villages n suburbs..
i was just saying dat d reason RS chose a small village or town was dat its easy to show regressive things by setting d show in a suburb or village... words ko hee nai Bhawnao ko bhi samjho yaar...😆

Nw see dis- in show's starting only Harak had to get Haya married due to khap panchayat pressure..If it was Mumbai or Delhi den hw RS wud hv shown dis,

I knw in metros also orthodox ppl live..See movie fashion where d Gay designer in mumbai had to marry a girl to shut ppl's mouth...Honour killing happens in big cities also..It all depends on wat type of person dey r and nt d city dey live in...Criminals will remain criminals no matter where dey r living...Bt by chosing a village its easy to show orthodox concepts becos den audience feel "haan aisa hota hai sach hee dikha rahe hai"...

Changing ppl's mentality is a gradual process which wil cum wid tym n education only..For me shows r only for entertainment ..I never watch a show for moral science bt yes I hate wen dey show crimes lyk rape, molestation, domestic violence, forced marriage by someone from d family..Becos dey hardly show d criminal getting punished which sends a wrong msg across d society...


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: naaju

@Ishu

I never said dat orthodox ppl live in only villages n suburbs.. But you dint even say na that they live in cities or districts . So it would meant that you only meant about suburbs and villages.. 😆😆


i was just saying dat d reason RS chose a small village or town was dat its easy to show regressive things by setting d show in a suburb or village... words ko hee nai Bhawnao ko bhi samjho yaar...😆

Nw see dis- in show's starting only Harak had to get Haya married due to khap panchayat pressure..If it was Mumbai or Delhi den hw RS wud hv shown dis,

I knw in metros also orthodox ppl live..See movie fashion where d Gay designer in mumbai had to marry a girl to shut ppl's mouth...Honour killing happens in big cities also..It all depends on wat type of person dey r and nt d city dey live in...Criminals will remain criminals no matter where dey r living...Bt by chosing a village its easy to show orthodox concepts becos den audience feel "haan aisa hota hai sach hee dikha rahe hai"...

You're contradicting your own statement .. in the movie that man had to marry bcz of society's taunts and gossip and in the show also harman saumya had to marry bcz of society's taunt on saumya and harman. but panchayat played an important role to see that neither of the parties back out after using the other for sex (that is what ppl had thought happened b/w harman saumya)... If it was mumbai or delhi den ppl in the society would have started their gossip about saumya and harman and then anyways harak would have to get them married .. so either its panchayat or society's taunts and gossips , things doesn't matter bcz these things are bound to happen (even in real also)..

@ purple/bold - You're a hardcore MBian so there was one scene where MB walked on coal for her husband to get well and fine .. I would like to put your attention that the couple resided in Mumbai and its a business hub .. so its wrong to say that orthodox things are only shown by choosing a village .. ppl residing in mumbai or delhi or japiur also have orthodox beliefs and even then audience feels that haan ye sirf chote shehro mein nahi balki bade shehro mein bhi hota hai...


Changing ppl's mentality is a gradual process which wil cum wid tym n education only..For me shows r only for entertainment ..I never watch a show for moral science bt yes I hate wen dey show crimes lyk rape, molestation, domestic violence, forced marriage by someone from d family..Becos dey hardly show d criminal getting punished which sends a wrong msg across d society... that you need to blame on the respective channel and ph for not showing justice and showing that evil wins over good...


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Posted: 8 years ago
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@ishu
I dnt understand wat u r trying to prove to me..See I was not writing a thesis.This is just a simple discussion for me.In few words I have tried to put my POV. I may have said something which u r feeling was not to d point or upto d mark.So wat Im nt writing my exam paper...I just said wat I felt...😊Im also as much imperfect as u r...
Gud dat u analyse every post so much..Mujhse to nai hota i only read d comments n get a jist of wat d person is saying...
Im nt replying back nw n ruin TM post...Becos after a point a discussion turns into argument which Im not interested in...Thanks


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Posted: 8 years ago
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@ Naju - You' don't look like a physics theorem that I need to prove to you something 😆😆 You're giving half facts and contradictory statement which I felt that if someone else will read then he/she may feel that only few ppl are like that or only in few parts bad things happen , which is wrong . 😛😛
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: RagingBlaze

@ Naaju - you're partially right and partially wrong . First of all Gurdaspur is a town and not a village . I don't think so you might have seen large green fields , cows or ox grazing fields , tubewells , well , ppl using primitive agricultural method and farming , ppl using ox for tilling the land ... If you have seen all these or any one of this then you maybe right but when I was watching this show then Gurdaspur was a town with its own panchayat , police , hospital , etc and not a village . Honor killing happened in TN few months back where the girls father had sent his ppl to burn alive the daughter and her husband who were at the bus station .. I guess TN is a village or a suburb and not a metropolitian city then ... Similarly dowry death and honor killing are happening in WB , TN and Delhi so I suppose even these states are subarbs or villages and not metropolitian city ... Its a myth that ppl in mumbai or delhi are much broad minded bcz ppl live in the same society and follows the same rule .. I'll tell you one incident and this I witnessed 2-3 years back while I was doing my graduation .. I stay in a metropolitian city in a posh locality so obviously ppl staying in my locality were very aristrocratic ppl and most of them were businessman and working in good reputed IT firms ... So one day my dad was dropping me to college and I was sitting at the backseat of the car . We halted at a red light and i saw that there was one new Range rovers car besides me , so I knew it that the owner must be very rich since RR is anyways expensive . That car dint had the dark black glasses so thing were visible that what was happening inside the car .. Ther was a driver driving the car and the owner (i suppose) was sitting backseat .. IDK about the other metropolitian city but my city has lots of enunchs and beggars and so its a common site of enunchs knocking on cars window and bus and asking for money .. So the same thing happened that time .. 2 enunch came from the other side of the road and they started knocking on the car's window .. That man dint pull down the window and just kept on looking at them with disgust ... I had that much of courtesy to pull dowm the cars window and tell that person that I dont have money and anyways enunchs doesnt even bother to look at students .. So now tell me if ppl living in suburbs and villages are the only orthodox or regressive ppl while ppl living in metropitian cities are quite classy and they treat everyone with respect ?? Even in metropolitian cities among aristrocratic classes dowry , caste is prevelant ... So in all the whole India whether rich or poor , village or city - ppl in every nook and corner needs to change for the betterment of society ... And Here I agree with you partially about RS but I would like to add that the Govt of India should call for emergency meeting and shut down all these channels like SP , Zee TV , Colors and their brother sister channels like utsav , OK , anmol , rishtey etc ... Bcz all these channels are just showing nonsense and more nonsense ... Sony toh waise bhi nazar nai ata toh usey bandh karo ya na karo koi farak nai padta ...



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u have literally said what is on my mind . bravo . u r abdolutely correct . society and ppl's thinking are same doesnt matter where they live .

as for haryana and punjab ,since i have seen both the states and have lived there . i really hate when ppl consider them to be so backward and full of honor killing and other social evil and i blame tv and movies for not updating with current scenior.

i live in haryana and trust it is much more developed in than even some states in south . it is just not the infrastrture , new technology farming equipment but even in thinking.

my own grandfather's village has so many intercast and even inter religious marriage and guess what no one died . they stay happy and normal . and my small village have around 20 working womens and strenght of more girl child than boy .

as for IVF etc there are so many old and middle age couple even who have opted for it and have been succeful .

i even know a couple who is well above there 60s and now have went through IvF and had a baby girl few months back and they are happy
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: dhakad_chori


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u have literally said what is on my mind . bravo . u r abdolutely correct . society and ppl's thinking are same doesnt matter where they live . that's true dear and I agree with you that wherever ppl live , in developed cities or not so developed cities still they are a part of society and they will behave according to what society thinks or log kya kahenge types ...



as for haryana and punjab ,since i have seen both the states and have lived there . i really hate when ppl consider them to be so backward and full of honor killing and other social evil and i blame tv and movies for not updating with current scenior. even i can never understand this fact that why do ppl blame tv and movies for all bad things .. when tv and movies show good things then ppl never even embrace such good thoughts but when any thing bad happens then all blame comes on tv movies or girls short clothes ..


i live in haryana and trust it is much more developed in than even some states in south . it is just not the infrastrture , new technology farming equipment but even in thinking.

my own grandfather's village has so many intercast and even inter religious marriage and guess what no one died . they stay happy and normal . and my small village have around 20 working womens and strenght of more girl child than boy . I'm happy to hear that atleast a bit of change is happening in society and its a good move by ppl .. 👏👏👏

as for IVF etc there are so many old and middle age couple even who have opted for it and have been succeful .

i even know a couple who is well above there 60s and now have went through IvF and had a baby girl few months back and they are happy may god bless them



i understood one thing that tv and movies are just for 90% for entertainment and remaining percent for education and its ppl and the society who needs to change their approach .. tv and movies cant help it .. i'm sure that majority of the Indians must have seen Pink movie but inspite of that bengaluru molestation happened .. so the problem is not with tv and movies but the problem is with ppl and their thinking ..

It was good to see a constructive criticism from you .. As of now many ppl are hating this track for showing kinners in a vulnerable position and showing that woman's are needed just to bring heir for the family .


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Posted: 8 years ago
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@RagingBlaze u r right . tv or movies cant be blamed fully as they r mirror to our society and ppl really need to change their thinking .

but maybe i go so against it coz i see samee thing in society and on tv .maybe i want tv to show a perfect picture which wont be good and true to do.

i just hopped that they could have shown other solution than this marriage . i know these things happen but i just wanted it to go other way.

i really do hope that somaya to become much stronger now rather keep on playing her i am oh so innocent card coz enough is enough.

even the calmest animal bite & fight back if it is attacked . its a instintive nature.

as for Harman he is still a good character who is fighting for his love and was brave and had the good thinking and enough heart to love a somaya whole heartily .

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