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Posted: 8 years ago
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Understanding Saumya

Some of us are having a hard time understanding why Saumya cannot acknowledge her feelings for Harman, why she is bending to Preeto's whims, why she is asking for Harman to remarry someone else, and now marry her sister. Some of what we think is based on scenes we have seen as part of episodes and some of it based on media segments, with partial information.

So, I tried to think why Saumya why? And I came up with the following conclusions. Although, I too want her to fight back, I understand why she cannot stand up against Preeto, not yet at least!

Saumya world is small, sheltered, and although she didn't know why, always felt hatred towards her even from her father and GM. Her abilities come from seeing Nimmi and Nimmi's sacrifices. What she saw was Nimmi sacrificing her happiness, her married life, just to protect the one she loved. Saumya was cocooned in that world created for her by Nimmi.

And then one day, everything changed for her. Harman came into her life, and although Nimmi tried to convey to her in many ways that she should consider Haraman as a husband, the first glow of love was felt by her. Harman was someone who showered her with feelings that she never even knew existed.

And then again her world was shattered by realization of the truth. She knew she could not be with Harman, one person who she loved. Unequipped to cope and her nature of honesty, she tells Harman the truth, and has to face his wrath, almost until the time Maninder, Preeto and Saaya drag her out of the house. I am sure Saumya was afraid, scared, and had no one to turn to. Didn't even understand what her life was to be.

Kinnar world was another shock to her system; changing the name, facing atrocities from inside and outside. Slowly she starts seeing the world but is still unable to comprehend her place in this world. She fights back, with one mission to go back to the world she knew, back to her mom and sister. She fought back, tried to escape? Why did Saumya do that then? She was doing it for herself and although she was not successful, she had no one telling her not to do that. She was just starting to find her own confidence.

When Harman finds her and showers his attention back on her, she is again pulled into his world; but now she knows enough to know that she can never fulfill a patni's role. Saumya was starting to glow again. Wanting, wishing to be in Hraman's cocoon of love, but reality was not too far off. Preeto's mental and physical torture and constantly telling her that the one person who she loved, his life was going to be destroyed because of he, was something her selfless nature cannot handle. She is after all nimmi's daughter, brought up seeing the sacrifice for the person you love.

Saumya who never really had a "complete family" and wished for that growing up, could see how because of her, he was losing all his relations and she knew, even if she loved him and accepted his love, she was not adequate for him Now it was not about her, it was about Harman. She only wants happiness for Harman and felt that although he may be unhappy now, it will be of a short duration and he will learn to love someone else and have a normal married life and have his family too. She tries to distance herself from Harman. What could she do? Leave the house...that would be the easiest solution. But she knew Harman would come to find her. She also knew she was the only one who could convince Harman to marry again. She doesn't know how, but knew she had to.

But why Surbhi? Why have him marry her sister? That is not her choice. It is not yet clear why Preeto has chosen Surbhi (at least not clear to me). Was Surbhi chosen to get back at Maninder or did Preeto think that Harman will not find anyone else? Does Saumya have a choice? She leaves because of not wanting this to happen, but circumstances brings her back full circle and in an agitated state reveals that to Surbhi.

What must be Saumya going through? A person who has always been abused in some way, cannot stand up for themselves. Nimmis love and Harman's love are her savior, as she was able to see some good side in her life. But she has always been made to feel different by Nimmi, felt intense hatred from her own father, Preeto and family. Scared she has withdrawn into herself. And trying to bring happiness in her own way to the one person in her life who loves her (and she knows it) and she loves him back but unable to reciprocate.

Yes, we want to see her accept Harman's love, we want to see her be able to stand up against Preeto. But Saumya's inane nature will not allow her to be that bold; she will in future with her loving and giving and sacrificing nature.

That's what I feel. May be you will agree, may be you will not. Please pen you thought, would love to know.

Some of you may have studied human behaviour, and may understand mindset of Saumya even better..

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MaryamMary thumbnail
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thx Radhika
For understanding Saumya as I do, but was not able to pen that. We say why she cries but that's pain flowing out of very sensitive person, and that's the person Harman slowly started to fall in love with. As we know his family is shown to b very practical & there seems to b no room of warmth between his family
Preeto has upper hand in every decision & shows her very cold hearted person.
While Nimmi was shown very warm & loving nature which comes from her mom
She kept Saumya secluded from outer world, Bc mostly it was the fear of loosing her in that "Chudel" world. Living in small town, no support from no one she still brought up Saumya with loving care & little bit knowledge. The most beautiful thing Saumya gained is love, sensitivity & care and thats what she is giving to her Harmanji in her own way
Before blaming Saumya for NOT reciprocating Harman's love, one has to stand in her shoes as Kinner & understand her state of mind her selfless Love for her Harmanji
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Posted: 8 years ago
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That' all understandable about Soumya's psychology, and it would even be understandable if she lost Harman (whether temporarily or permanently), but why lose her sister in such a way? And why, after all the begging, and leaving in midnight into the unknown(like a total idiot), to protect her sister from such a twisted sick situation, did she suddenly agree to such a dirty idea? And why did Surbhi agree, when she had such a perfect understanding groom who was ready to accept her sister, and even host her in his home? To just make it possible for Soumya to be with Harman? And what sort of "being" would that be? And if Soumya was ready to leave him "for his own good", and if Surbhi & Nani were in agreement, then why has it become suddenly important for Soumya to keep staying with Harman in that mad house, to the extent that both sisters (the weak one AND the strong one) agreed to such a sickeningly dirty situation where a man has to marry his "sister"?
And then, turn the loving sisters into enemies? So instead of just losing Harman, she loses her sister too? Her flesh and blood who used to love her more than anything?

Nothing in all this make any sort of sense! The whole show has become only about Preeto and her whims and plans and dreams! It' Preeto's invincible Shakti now, not a kinnar's shakti or astitva! It's just pure idiocy!
If the CVs wanted to make another idiotic twisted show (with a touch of dirty sickness), then why did they start out so well? Why did they attract those who liked to watch something with value?
Such a waste!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Love ur post.its make some of us realise how soumya was.She was one of kind that not only thinks about herself only.some of us maybe only see through from harman side n perspective and not soumya.ya, im also a bit angry when watching the espd but ur post make me realise how saumya feels and how she is trying hard to overcome all the harders too.
i want to say more but my english is very limited.please do write more.
i hope they not drag this for a long time and continue to show soumya journey.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Declaration: I will answer as a neutral viewer.
Some points of yours I do agree but ya many drawbacks are there too as per me.
When soumya was castled in her mother's cocoon, it was pretty obvious that she would be immersed in innocence & also out of the cruelty of society. Agreed here!
Then comes the realization of truth, and it came as sudden burst of winds. So it would be difficult to cope up with the situation and she was protected by Harman by then. And even she saw the wrath of Preeto, Saya & Maninder. But Harman always stood by her side to protect her as she was fragile. Agreed here!
Taranna of kinnar world gradually grew stronger. She asked against the social customs. She questioned the prejudice of society that why did they clap like that? Why couldn't they stay in part of main stream society? This was all her inner strength to fight for her release. But situations turned bad after that!
My first question, will a person's character change frequently? First she battled for her release with help of surbhi & Harman's support but now swayed by Preeto's cunning evil plans! Is the behaviour changed so frequently? Partial denial to you.
Then she rescued from various kidnappings due to Harman. She saw the care of Harman & saw the feelings of Harman. As you have compared Nimmi with Saumya, just want to highlight something. Nimmi's love is pure. Nimmi protected Soumya from all those who had hatred her. Nimmi never tried to hurt the person who loved Saumya. But here Saumya was constantly hurting Harman who loves her. There is a difference between Nimmi & Saumya.
Agree with you that if Saumya will accept Harman's love then may be she will be accused of breaking Singh family's happiness. But if she is really selfless then she must go away from Singh family. OK, she tried to go away but she couldn't due to circumstances. But after release, she can go away with Surbhi and Surbhi is always ready to support her sister. But even after release, she said truth to Surbhi and then she will push Harman for 2nd marriage. OK, again I know surbhi made promise so soumya couldn't lie but she could easily lie to Harman after taking his vow. OK, so I understood that she didn't lie to Surbhi as she didn't want to give the same accident situation to surbhi due to her lie but when Saumya said that my life is the gift of nimmi and surbhi. Can you please define why Harman's name is not codified there? If soumya is really selfless now, she must have persuaded surbhi to go away from Gurdaspur with Nani & Surbhi but no, she won't do that. What's Harman's wish? What's Harman's feelings, she gave a damn to it! OK as you said that She wanted to complete the Singh family by giving them grandchildren with 2nd marriage but she has some sense to identify that if surbhi & herself will be close to Harman then he won't move on as Harman has feelings for her! Where is selflessness here? Selflessness would have if she moved away with Surbhi and left him forever! But no, she wouldn't do that.
Earlier I could see selfless sacrifice from her side but now NO.. She could easily lie harman & all her choices would be forced upon Harman as he loved her immensely. Who the hell she is to force Harman? Harman has his own life but due to her only he is scattered and forgotten to live a life. Now all the acts of Soumya is only for her own servival in Singh family.

P.S.: I tried to to neutral as far as possible. You are free to disagree with me!

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: H_H_

That' all understandable about Soumya's psychology, and it would even be understandable if she lost Harman (whether temporarily or permanently), but why lose her sister in such a way? And why, after all the begging, and leaving in midnight into the unknown(like a total idiot), to protect her sister from such a twisted sick situation, did she suddenly agree to such a dirty idea? And why did Surbhi agree, when she had such a perfect understanding groom who was ready to accept her sister, and even host her in his home? To just make it possible for Soumya to be with Harman? And what sort of "being" would that be? And if Soumya was ready to leave him "for his own good", and if Surbhi & Nani were in agreement, then why has it become suddenly important for Soumya to keep staying with Harman in that mad house, to the extent that both sisters (the weak one AND the strong one) agreed to such a sickeningly dirty situation where a man has to marry his "sister"?
And then, turn the loving sisters into enemies? So instead of just losing Harman, she loses her sister too? Her flesh and blood who used to love her more than anything?

Nothing in all this make any sort of sense! The whole show has become only about Preeto and her whims and plans and dreams! It' Preeto's invincible Shakti now, not a kinnar's shakti or astitva! It's just pure idiocy!
If the CVs wanted to make another idiotic twisted show (with a touch of dirty sickness), then why did they start out so well? Why did they attract those who liked to watch something with value?
Such a waste!


You said it all

if you love Harman and want to leave him for his happiness she wouldn't come back with marry my sis idea

it is sick worthless idea
with no meaning for any1

Edited by Hend_Refai - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Understanding Soumya... Very Well Written and Analysed Writeup.. Those who have seen her character sketch, the growing affection towards her loved ones, a kind hearted person who doesn't want to spoil / break any family bonding.. can understand her condition.. As you told.. it is only the speculations about why Soumya is forcing Harman to marry her sister.. but Soumya was against it as she doesn't want to spoil her sister's life just for Preeto... she has made it clear so many times through her dialogues.. but we really don't know the circumstances which has lead her to force her love to marry her sister.. But really doubt Surbhi's intentions.. in one way or the other.. she is avoiding her marriage with anyone and taking shelter under Soumya's safety.. She was waiting for an opportunity and when it was offered by Preeto .. without thinking she grabbed it.. I even think Surbhi might have told Soumya to convince Harman for this marriage... this will come out only in the upcoming episodes... but so far.. as you said it ... circumstances have forced her to withheld her feelings for Harman... But the day she gathers courage.. then no one can stop her.. Waiting for that day... Again.. A Big Clap to your wonderful writing..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Nice post...agree to some extent...Main thing...Saumya is
literally emotionally handicapped by the Kinnar factor...its such
a deep inferiority complex...which will require a good dose of
love and an atmosphere of positivity and affirmation to be rid
of that complex...this atmosphere is definitely not possible
in Singh household even though Harman is there...rest all are
against her...Thay's why I cannot understand her need to
come back to that household...did she honestly think Harman
would be happy sharing both sisters...or would she be able
to really live with seeing Surbhi and Harman as a couple
even though she may have a safe refuge in that
household???? Not happy with her return to Singh house-
hold...and cannot understand her decision for now to allow
Surbhi to sacrifice her love for Abhishek..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I disagree that Souma, returned to the house Singh

but I think it will be different. Surbhi bring, Souma Singh house, because Mahinder will Souma throw away from the house. Surbhi, not tells Souma, about to marry Harman. Souma will know only when Surbhi will require married necklace that Preeti take Souma. Surbhi says Preeti to marry Harman. As soon as Preeti leave the room. Souma Surbhi say, not do that.

That episode, reasoning Souma, it was.

Souma says that when Harman's new wife, to learn that he had a wife, Kinnari, Harman will be humbled.

Here Souma not see any other way out.

Harman said, "that the girl would marry me after what happened"

such a thing can not conceal forever.

Souma not wants to divide the Harman family. Souma wants Harman was happy.

Souma not understand that Harman lucky she is

it is important to marriage, Harman and Surbhi not happened. Otherwise, it will be a disaster.

Harman under pressure will agree, it's spoiling its character.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kashish_shine

Declaration: I will answer as a neutral viewer.

Some points of yours I do agree but ya many drawbacks are there too as per me.
When soumya was castled in her mother's cocoon, it was pretty obvious that she would be immersed in innocence & also out of the cruelty of society. Agreed here!
Then comes the realization of truth, and it came as sudden burst of winds. So it would be difficult to cope up with the situation and she was protected by Harman by then. And even she saw the wrath of Preeto, Saya & Maninder. But Harman always stood by her side to protect her as she was fragile. Agreed here!
Taranna of kinnar world gradually grew stronger. She asked against the social customs. She questioned the prejudice of society that why did they clap like that? Why couldn't they stay in part of main stream society? This was all her inner strength to fight for her release. But situations turned bad after that!
My first question, will a person's character change frequently? First she battled for her release with help of surbhi & Harman's support but now swayed by Preeto's cunning evil plans! Is the behaviour changed so frequently? Partial denial to you.
Then she rescued from various kidnappings due to Harman. She saw the care of Harman & saw the feelings of Harman. As you have compared Nimmi with Saumya, just want to highlight something. Nimmi's love is pure. Nimmi protected Soumya from all those who had hatred her. Nimmi never tried to hurt the person who loved Saumya. But here Saumya was constantly hurting Harman who loves her. There is a difference between Nimmi & Saumya.
Agree with you that if Saumya will accept Harman's love then may be she will be accused of breaking Singh family's happiness. But if she is really selfless then she must go away from Singh family. OK, she tried to go away but she couldn't due to circumstances. But after release, she can go away with Surbhi and Surbhi is always ready to support her sister. But even after release, she said truth to Surbhi and then she will push Harman for 2nd marriage. OK, again I know surbhi made promise so soumya couldn't lie but she could easily lie to Harman after taking his vow. OK, so I understood that she didn't lie to Surbhi as she didn't want to give the same accident situation to surbhi due to her lie but when Saumya said that my life is the gift of nimmi and surbhi. Can you please define why Harman's name is not codified there? If soumya is really selfless now, she must have persuaded surbhi to go away from Gurdaspur with Nani & Surbhi but no, she won't do that. What's Harman's wish? What's Harman's feelings, she gave a damn to it! OK as you said that She wanted to complete the Singh family by giving them grandchildren with 2nd marriage but she has some sense to identify that if surbhi & herself will be close to Harman then he won't move on as Harman has feelings for her! Where is selflessness here? Selflessness would have if she moved away with Surbhi and left him forever! But no, she wouldn't do that.
Earlier I could see selfless sacrifice from her side but now NO.. She could easily lie harman & all her choices would be forced upon Harman as he loved her immensely. Who the hell she is to force Harman? Harman has his own life but due to her only he is scattered and forgotten to live a life. Now all the acts of Soumya is only for her own servival in Singh family.

P.S.: I tried to to neutral as far as possible. You are free to disagree with me!

Agree with ur each & every point👍🏼
Cant see harman hurt all the time

Its better both the sisters leave him alone and stop using him for their own good

Now this Soumya is irritating me just like surbhi😡

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