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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: mitzification

Vids ..you know why Komal went through all she did ..she was from a well off family educated beautiful ... becuase her parents ... the part of this society were afraid .. they were afraid that their 'cow' their cattle ...

what if
no one marries her
what will people say if they break a marraige before it happens
what will people say if she breaks marraige after it happens ...
so Komal lived like .. Im not good enough ..if i am single or divorcee and till it became a matter of actual life and death .. she choose to suffer !
Now lets not blame her ..she looked like she belonged to the upper crust of our society .. if this can happen to a delhi based educated girl , if her parents treated her this was (no blame to the parents as such) ... wht chance do other females in our largely illeterate and poor country have ?
We cant blame Komal cause we as a scoiety are so sick that we make it impossible for a woman to survive.
I totaly support your thought that mrraige is between two individuals .. but in none of the incidences it looked like between two individuals it looked like a trade agreement ,...where sometimes goods were seen on the actual day of the barter ...
but again dont blame the girl , blame the society where after so much education girl is traded off like that.
Sdly Aamir did not talk about the change in thinking that is needed in this case.
After this episode will we stop mentaly harrasing unmarried and divorced girls ??

I said I don't have any sympathies for her. As I said either one is Komal or one is Rani, its a choice one makes.
I won't blame society either. Society does not encourage giving into absurd dowry demands
Its about making a CHOICE!
And its not that its baseless, I have denied proposals if someone has even mentioned money and I have faced pressure in and pressure out " OH you are still not Married" - and married at an age when majority are moms of 2.
Yes society talks, but surely they won't object to responding with a firm stance.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I liked today's epi a lot ... the question u are asking I guess everybody knows the answer from where the problem is arising... from the superiority complex of men n their family n the obvious greed... I guess 11st point is already explained in d 1st epi well .. still if u have quary then SMD's webs8 has an option which allows u to ask ur questions

n still if u want d history of DOWRY system I can give u... but it was really not need to discuss about it in the show... the show is for revealing the truth, showing the picture of society not digging in its history ... n I loved that this time we had some people who took a step and protested against it... their work (especially Rani) can inspire n strengthen many people to f8 against the corruption

about the help line ... this crime comes under a very strong law so if needed a police complain can help u.. for that u have to dial 100

I guess this is a show which has a time duration... I don't know how many of u know that SMJ's every epi has substance of 100hour, then SMJ team use to edit it to fit it in limited time span... they combined most important points... this show is not for counselling..it can't answer y she did it n what sud she do ... it can show look this is happening this has happened with some one... n a social crime is working in the root... now u have to decide how u will act... if there is d incident of the girl who committed suicide den there is an example of Rani who made a stand

I really loved todays' epi...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I'm 40 and single and never once have I faced the pressure to get married. My mother has this wonderful way of handling inquisitive women. Every time someone used to ask her about our marriage plans (my younger sister is single too) my mother would start asking the women about their own daughters and how their married lives were going on. Somehow those women never took out the topic of our marriage after that. :)

If my father received any demand for dowry, he used to say that since he was paying for the groom, the boy should stay with us after marriage and do the cook, gardener, driver role in our house. The first time he said that I went into a giggling fit right there in that room.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Komal's parent did say that the message that they want to send out is "keep your daughter at home with you in the beginning itself when someone demands dowry." But I agree the most important message should be to shun what societal pressures are and teach your daughters to be independent self-respecting women.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: mitzification

I have just seen the episode and though it had its good points . I was quiet dissapointed in todays episode .. I have to sit an analyse what exactly went wrong ... but it left me high and dry .

The greates point about todays show was however that its about the marraige and not about that one day of the wedding . Great distinction . Our thinking stops at the D-day when we think of marraige ... ...
if you felt that somewher todays episode wasincomplete then please share your view. This is not ot criticise but as a feedback.
I think dowry problems arise because again women ar enot treated equal ..even a well educated professional girl is under pressure to make a marraige and also make it sucesful .. if you dont marry questions are raised and pressure builds up . It's like even that lecturar who could have easily stood on her feet choose to comit suicide cause she could neither go back to her parents and was scared of the society .. its like she had no option but to stay in the marriage.
In marraige a trade off is donr sauda not the marraige of two equal individuals who need each other to have a happy life .


I wanted a psychologist to talk about the mentality of abuse victims. Because I've seen many people wonder as to how such educated and well off women would not walk away from such a situation. I agree that societal/family expectations are one reason, but that is not the only reason.

I wanted to see at least one more story where the woman and/or her family fights against dowry. Rani's story was great but I've heard of other stories where women have called the police during their wedding and complained against their potential in laws about dowry harassment. It goes to show that it's never too late to take action.

But it was a good episode overall


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Mitzification: I think you've raised a great point regarding the stigma of not being married or divorced and all in our society. That aspect really wasn't explored at all in this episode. Neither were any of the PRESSURES faced in our society explored in this episode.

I too felt that this episode was a little incomplete. A lot more could've been explored. And yes, I also agree that the issue was portrayed in a very simplistic fashion. A few good points were made, but overall the impact wasn't as deep for me.

I think a lot more can still be discussed/explored about this issue. My biggest criticism is that the emotional connect...the patriotism, the enrichment, the enlightenment...basically just being SENSITIVE to this issue...that was missing for me.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chitrashi

1091 is Women's helpline number.

There are special police cells to look into these issues (Dowry and Domestic Violence). There is actually a lot being done on this issue and almost every town has some cell or the other where women can go to for redressal.

The episode on CSA demanded more action and information because people are mostly not aware of how often these issues occur. Dowry and bride-burning has been an issue that's received a lot of attention by social activists.

oh...i knew it..thanks buddy for the info...😊..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chitrashi

Mitzi - Like you said that a lot of issues arise out of gender inequality. But quite a bit out of lack of self confidence in women too.

In my opinion a lecturer who commits suicide because of harassment by in-laws has no business teaching in the first place coz she's only going to impart her warped world view to her students.

After 30 years of active social work, strong laws and awareness campaigns, if women are still choosing to live in hell in the name of marriage then the problem is with the women.

I'll give two instances from my personal knowledge - a cousin got married and immediately after that her husband started harassing her for dowry. She like a cow kept coming back to her mother's house and "borrowing" money on some pretext or the other. She even "borrowed" money from a few relatives.

The day her mother got to know of the true state of affairs, she brought the daughter home, sent a telegram to all her friends and family that if her Son in law was to approach them, no money should be given to him under any circumstance.

My aunt got my cousin divorced and got her to become independent.

Incident two - a young girl was getting married to a ISB graduate. The boy had an excellent job and a brilliant career planned. On the day of the marriage the boy's mother approached the girl's family demanding a flat and a car. The boy told the girl that unless his parents demands were not met he would not go through with the ceremony. The girl got off the podium where she was greeting guests and walked out of the function hall. By nightfall, they had the groom's family literally falling on their feet begging forgiveness, coz the girl had informed everyone on FB and the ISB alumni broadsheet about the boy's action.

I completely agree to chitrasi...👍🏼..yes, every change should come from us...its should start from i ., myself then we our-self and then to you and yourself...😊...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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The biggest thing missing in todays episode for me was what consequences did the husband who locked up his wife for 4 days to die, face. Consequences should have been discussed so as to deter future culprits.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I personally loved todays ep. I thought it was the best out of all

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