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Posted: 10 years ago
#31
Ranjana, as always, I enjoy reading your quick reactions to the eps. Your new thread title gave me a jolt, though. 😆

Coming to 8.3's episode, where do I start? 😆 Most noticeable was Aarushi's wait vs. the Moms en masse. Both understandable and, surprisingly, both sides in character. For Aarushi, maybe her decision to hang back was a combination of shock and her natural way of observing things first. If the CVs choose, this may be helpful her later on, making her the person Vihaan feels safest to talk to without feeling bombarded on one hand or controlled on the other. Poor Vihaan! The deluge of questions and facts just threw his already confused mind into tailspin.

Coming to the Vatsal women, I agree with you that they need to ignore what she says. But, you know how these CVs write. Watch these smart, powerful women brought to their knees by a twisted, certifiably insane woman. 🥱 Mini's heart was in the right place and since she's typically a knee-jerk kind of reactor, I'm not surprised she went off first (I probably would have done the same in her place). But I agree, her timing wasn't right. Destabilized Vihaan even more and also played right into the psycho's hands.

Ranjana, this obsession of hers clearly knows no bounds. Petite Wacko finding him first was because these CVs contrived reasons for the Vatsal women to stay inactive, and to give her basis for her sweeping generalization. Typically, these women would crawl on glass for Vihaan. Now, all of a sudden, they conveniently stand still? The track so far has been a patchwork of silly, unnecessary contrivances to force this psycho nonsense to "work". She's as crazy as the show's writer(s). 😆 It's another reason I have little faith in the writing -- they don't let a story organically unfold and weave in drama that naturally comes from the main framework. Instead, they jackhammer outlandish things into the story, compromising potential authenticity. Although a little too late, she has finally shown everyone she's full-on cray cray with her "we are meant to be" rant and her calm retelling of her opportunism when Vihaan surfaced. 🤪 She lives in her fantasy world where she thinks Vihaan's amnesia and Aarushi being hidden or downtrodden will give her leverage. She's surprisingly aware she has a false sense of control (probably the only truth she's aware of). She blusters in their presence, but she's verbally admitted she's afraid of Vihaan's memory returning (if he had his memory back she wouldn't stand a chance) and she simultaneously shows she's afraid of Aarushi's presence. No focus on the baby yet, but will she attempt to do something to the baby before or after it's born?

Since she is hinging her hopes on Vihaan's memories not returning, the most tolerable writing option would be using however long his memory is gone to reset Vihaan-Aarushi's love story (as the new TellyTalkies spoiler implies) and to reset Vihaan-Moms' relationships. But they shouldn't let this just be about Aarushi fighting. Vihaan also needs to put up a fight at some point. He's been back for only a couple of episodes, so he needs to process a lot of his new environment right now. However, he can't be paralyzed by headaches and fainting spells all the way through this. He needs to be active in his own story and exercise his own agency. As the track progresses, his own actions need to be written as frustrating the psycho to the point where she realizes his continued amnesia gives her no leverage at all because he'll always be drawn to Aarushi, and his bonds with his Moms go beyond memories. But my expectations remain low on how this will be handled.

As we said, it's up to the BARC viewers to stake their claims on what they like and don't. For these fantastic actors, who are delivering great performances despite this story, we can only hope we're all on the same wavelength in the coming weeks. Aaand, I prattled on longer than I should. 😳

Edited by PeaceJoyLove - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#32
@Ranjudi @PeaceJoyLove brilliant posts! :D and I don't understand one thing...How can a vamp be so dumb!? Woh order karegi & arushi will leave Vatsal Mansion!? Her own house!? Arushi is a doodh-peeti bachchi or what? :"D really I'm feeling pity on her!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@PeaceJoyLove I also have the same fear :| I think when she'll see that all her attempts to go near vihaan r failing cos of the mothers & instead he's falling for arushi yet again, she might try to hurt arushi's baby even before its born! :|
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Posted: 10 years ago
#34
Sidney, I'm unsure if this vamp is meant to make any sense. We know how the obsession with Vihaan started and she's had no respect for boundaries or privacy from the beginning, but very little sense can be found in what she says because the writers have never given her much intelligence. She judged Aarushi as a "bad wife" based on minor things (the tone of their little love chase banter, wearing a pink sari vs. a blue one) that she blew out of proportion. The one that took the cake for me was when she returned from getting Dadi Ma's medication and found out that Vihaan and Aarushi left for their honeymoon. "Oh, they left five minutes ago? Maybe they're still outside." She proceeds to run outside to see the car. Of course, their car won't be there! It's been five minutes! Did she think they were riding to the airport on snails? That's why it's ridiculous that this woman who can't string two logical thoughts together is one the writing has find Vihaan first and the one who will emotionally blackmail the Vatsals. If writers have to water down key characters or contrive stupid situations with key characters in order to make sub-characters like Vibha work, then something is wrong with the story plot, the character, or both, IMHO.

Originally posted by: LoveSidney15

@PeaceJoyLove I also have the same fear :| I think when she'll see that all her attempts to go near vihaan r failing cos of the mothers & instead he's falling for arushi yet again, she might try to hurt arushi's baby even before its born! :|


Yeah, that's what ran through my mind when I saw the preview. Her current "confidence" is pinned on her hopes of Vihaan's memory not coming back and Aarushi being placed in a subordinate position. But it made me wonder how far they'd have her go. Either to clear out all of obstacles now or to retaliate for losing ground later, like you mentioned, she has only one target left -- the baby, who is a living symbol of Arhaan's intimacy and love. I don't know if the CVs will go there, but I'm not ruling it out either.

Edited by PeaceJoyLove - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: PeaceJoyLove

Ranjana, as always, I enjoy reading your quick reactions to the eps. Your new thread title gave me a jolt, though. 😆 Haha sorry sorry!😆 But be prepared for more such jolts because I'm going to change the title frequently - just for a bit of fun in these dark and gloomy times 😒 😆

Coming to 8.3's episode, where do I start? 😆 Most noticeable was Aarushi's wait vs. the Moms en masse. Both understandable and, surprisingly, both sides in character. For Aarushi, maybe her decision to hang back was a combination of shock and her natural way of observing things first. If the CVs choose, this may be helpful her later on, making her the person Vihaan feels safest to talk to without feeling bombarded on one hand or controlled on the other. Poor Vihaan! The deluge of questions and facts just threw his already confused mind into tailspin. Agree, everyone was in character during that scene. It was natural for Aarushi to be a silent/helpless onlooker, and for the moms to go berserk. Wonder how the CVs didn't mess that up 😆 And I so love your take on how that would play out in ArHaan's relationship later 😳

Coming to the Vatsal women, I agree with you that they need to ignore what she says. But, you know how these CVs write. Watch these smart, powerful women brought to their knees by a twisted, certifiably insane woman. 🥱 Mini's heart was in the right place and since she's typically a knee-jerk kind of reactor, I'm not surprised she went off first (I probably would have done the same in her place). But I agree, her timing wasn't right. Destabilized Vihaan even more and also played right into the psycho's hands. Yeah, Mini's reactions were in character. And I suppose the CVs are trying to lay the ground for the Vatsal women to participate in the wacko's delusional plans by making it clear that Vihaan can't handle any kind of emotional/mental pressure at the moment.

Ranjana, this obsession of hers clearly knows no bounds. Petite Wacko finding him first was because these CVs contrived reasons for the Vatsal women to stay inactive, and to give her basis for her sweeping generalization. Typically, these women would crawl on glass for Vihaan. Now, all of a sudden, they conveniently stand still? The track so far has been a patchwork of silly, unnecessary contrivances to force this psycho nonsense to "work". She's as crazy as the show's writer(s). 😆 It's another reason I have little faith in the writing -- they don't let a story organically unfold and weave in drama that naturally comes from the main framework. Instead, they jackhammer outlandish things into the story, compromising potential authenticity. Although a little too late, she has finally shown everyone she's full-on cray cray with her "we are meant to be" rant and her calm retelling of her opportunism when Vihaan surfaced. 🤪 She lives in her fantasy world where she thinks Vihaan's amnesia and Aarushi being hidden or downtrodden will give her leverage. She's surprisingly aware she has a false sense of control (probably the only truth she's aware of). She blusters in their presence, but she's verbally admitted she's afraid of Vihaan's memory returning (if he had his memory back she wouldn't stand a chance) and she simultaneously shows she's afraid of Aarushi's presence. No focus on the baby yet, but will she attempt to do something to the baby before or after it's born? ? I think one or all of the CVs/writers are in love with the petite wacko🤪😆 No other reason to make it look like she is the only one who actually cared enough to look for Vihaan in Mumbai. Fixing a halo over the head of a psychotic vamp is flawed writing at its zenith 😕 @bold - That is what angers me the most. Post ArHaan's marriage, there was potential for so many amazing tracks! Hardly any aspects of the relationships within the Vatsal family have been explored. That itself would have been a delightful watch. But instead, we got all childish and soulless tracks. Sleepy three years olds could have done a better job than the writers of this show. And yeah, the baby has not come into focus as yet... maybe the topic will come up in today's episode during Aarushi and Vibha's convo...

Since she is hinging her hopes on Vihaan's memories not returning, the most tolerable writing option would be using however long his memory is gone to reset Vihaan-Aarushi's love story (as the new TellyTalkies spoiler implies) and to reset Vihaan-Moms' relationships. But they shouldn't let this just be about Aarushi fighting. Vihaan also needs to put up a fight at some point. He's been back for only a couple of episodes, so he needs to process a lot of his new environment right now. However, he can't be paralyzed by headaches and fainting spells all the way through this. He needs to be active in his own story and exercise his own agency. As the track progresses, his own actions need to be written as frustrating the psycho to the point where she realizes his continued amnesia gives her no leverage at all because he'll always be drawn to Aarushi, and his bonds with his Moms go beyond memories. But my expectations remain low on how this will be handled. That is exactly what I'm afraid will happen They will make this track about the battle between the psycho and Aarushi, leaving Vihaan out in the cold 🥱 Aarushi's struggles against the psycho are important, but I feel Vihaan's struggles are even more crucial to the track. I want the CVs to make him a dynamic and forceful participant in the story, not just a toy that two girls are fighting over. I want the spotlight to be on Vihaan, and the strength of his relationships with his moms and Aarushi. But with the "bahu" obsession that is pandemic across this industry, I know I will be disappointed. And I will probably get killed for saying this 😆 - but since the CVs have already gone down this memory loss path, I would rather they take some time to work on it, and use it to explore Vihaan-Aarushi's bond thoroughly. In empty, dull tracks, these CVs stretch every single uninteresting aspect till it could qualify for torture, and then give it a totally unsatisfactory finish. In all deeply emotional tracks, the CVs of this show just scratch the surface, suddenly get terrified of their own uselessness and idiocy, and quickly wrap it up while it is still broken, and use duct tape to patch up the cracks in the story and hope that no one will notice. But for once, I want them to employ at least some of their grey cells (if they have any at all), take their time and give us a beautiful and sensitive track that revolves entirely around ArHaan. Or at least give us a track that doesn't leave me wanting to tear my hair out. But I know it's stupid of me to expect anything of this sort. Like you, I'm keeping my expectations very low, and am hoping against hope to be pleasantly surprised by the CVs 😆

As we said, it's up to the BARC viewers to stake their claims on what they like and don't. For these fantastic actors, who are delivering great performances despite this story, we can only hope we're all on the same wavelength in the coming weeks. Aaand, I prattled on longer than I should. 😳Yeah, fingers crossed that all viewers of SS remain on the same page, and our actors are rewarded for their hard work. Please please keep prattling 😆😳 I really enjoy reading your posts :) They are always intelligent and insightful and make me look at the show in fresh light 😳 🤗




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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Sidney - Like Peacejoylove has said, please don't expect anything sensible or sane from this psycho 😆 and yeh toh shuruvaat hain! 😳 I'm very sure we will sooon see her ordering Aarushi to mop the floors and cook and even clean ArHaan's bedroom, while a zillion instruments wail in the background 😆 🥱
@Peacejoylove - Your post made me laugh so hard 😆😆 how I wish the CVs/writers see the posts and realise that they are making bigger fools of themselves with every passing day 🤢😆😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
#37
😆 OK, I'll be braced for your new titles. You may have a lot of material in the coming days to work from.

The characterization for the women in 8.3 was a rare thing. A little flicker of hope that they have an idea of where they're going with this. But, yeah, I'm expecting the Moms to give in to the psycho's demands because Mini unintentionally triggered a bad emotional reaction from Vihaan. I would love for Aarushi's initial handling of the situation to be helpful to her. We'll see.

The fact that Petite Wacko exists at all is a thing of wonder, since previous attempts at interlopers seemed to go over like lead balloons earlier this year, if I'm remembering correctly. I don't mind crazy, off-beat characters and I've even liked a couple of villains in the past. But when story and characterization are unnecessarily tampered with to create superficial conflict, then I have a problem. Focusing too much on her and making this story about her (which it is at the moment) may not go over too well after awhile. We'll have to wait and see. On the topic of the baby, yeah, it may come up today. I still don't know why it was essential for Aarushi to be pregnant now, but we'll see sooner or later whether it was a plot device.

On the "bahu" viewing preference in the general audience, I agree. It's not something we can change right now. Still, it would be nice if they could work in a little something for Vihaan in one or two episodes. What you said is exactly what I was saying when I first read the spoiler -- Vihaan is not a stuffed toy that these women should be fighting over; he needs to be a part of this story. Likely won't happen, but it would be nice if it did.

[quote]And I will probably get killed for saying this LOL - but since the CVs have already gone down this memory loss path, I would rather they take some time to work on it, and use it to explore Vihaan-Aarushi's bond thoroughly. In empty, dull tracks, these CVs stretch every single uninteresting aspect till it could qualify for torture, and then give it a totally unsatisfactory finish. In all deeply emotional tracks, the CVs of this show just scratch the surface, suddenly get terrified of their own uselessness and idiocy, and quickly wrap it up while it is still broken, and use duct tape to patch up the cracks in the story and hope that no one will notice. But for once, I want them to employ at least some of their grey cells (if they have any at all), take their time and give us a beautiful and sensitive track that revolves entirely around ArHaan. Or at least give us a track that doesn't leave me wanting to tear my hair out. [/quote]

No kill orders from me on taking time with the memory loss track because I feel the same. This freaky thing we have. 😆 If they're taking the route of extended memory loss, memory loss until the 200th episode, or even permanent memory loss, then I would like to see the writer(s) really give Vihaan-Aarushi the time to explore their attraction and connection. Hit all the key emotional beats, like you've said in bold. I don't know what is driving this fear in the CVs, but they truly do often seem afraid or confused. For me, as a viewer, the energy or emotion of a situation is often too quickly stifled in favor of plot devices or new tracks. They don't give the characters enough time to savor or contemplate, and just rush them off to the next thing. I don't mean that they should drag stories along for episodes on end and slow down the pacing. Keep the pacing up. Still, it's nice when characters and viewers get a payoff. It would be wonderful if re-exploring Vihaan-Aarushi's chemistry is handled with more care. I am definitely open to being pleasantly surprised. 😊

Aw, I'm humbled. 😳 Mutual admiration here, Ranjana. It's always great to read your thoughts on all that's happening.

Edited by PeaceJoyLove - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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4/8

The psycho ***** hugged my Vihaan 😲😡🤢 She actually held him to her chest and comforted him when he was in bed 😕😡😡 Ewww!!! 🤢🤢 Kill her! someone please kill her! 😡😭😭
The rest of the episode was sort of a blur because of pure rage 😆😆

The psycho took up almost the whole episode as expected 🥱 She said some bullcrap to the moms, put forth some insane conditions, spouted some inane dialogues about her bond with Vihaan...and blah blah 🥱 Manohar-Aarushi scene was v sweet. Final scene was typical Patni vs Woh 😆😆 but Aarushi had some good dialogues and her style of insulting the psycho made me feel a little better 😆 Aarushi is truly a tough-as-nails female character 👏 But the precap was...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@peacejoylove - Your predictions were spot on :( Petite Wacko swallowed up today's entire episode, barring 1-2 short scenes where the CVs remembered that the show has other characters 🥱 The topic of the baby has not come up as yet. Which is quite puzzling. How has the wacko not commented on it until now 😕 In the last scene, she explained very patiently to Aarushi that Vibha and Vihaan have had a "perfect boy-meets-girl-falls-in-love-gets-married" love story 😳🤪😆 And she said there is only One obstacle in Vibha and Vihaan's ride towards the sunset, and that is Aarushi. I thought she would raise the topic of the child too, but not a word about it :/ and no mention of getting a doctor for Vihaan too. I think wacko has a point - she might be the only person in the world who actually gives a damn about Vihaan 🥱
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Posted: 10 years ago
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WHAT THE HELL!? Somebody burn this b***h alive pleeeaaassse _/\_ the more I try to keep my calm & peacefully try to watch the show, the more despicable this psycho b***h is becoming & for some moments I forget that this is just a TV show!!!! -_____-

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