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Posted: 14 years ago
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Very well written post ruchi! 👏 I too, am a regular reader at these forums but I rarely post here. I don't hate Sona, or BM and Dadaji, and I like Ishaan and Suhana equally, infact, I'm one of the rare ones who have a soft corner for Ishaan coz I feel he's suffered more 😭

I was very confused about this changing Ishaan as well. The constant sticking to Sona was just not true to the character we knew. Ishaan is behaving somewhat inconsistently and I blame the SGP production team for that. When alone, he's the sweetest thing to Suhana, and when with Sona, he completely ignores her. Even I started developing a dislike for Ishaan, but then two things changed my mind.
One was the interview that the writer of SGP gave recently, be sure to read it, and another was a beautiful VM I saw on this forum "Tu jaane Na... by Shakila2244".... it made me realize poor Ishaan is just a human being, and we expect him to be perfect and caring towards Suhana all the time. But in reality, it's not possible. If you give someone special attention, but they treat you like any other houseold member, how long will you give special treatment to them? So earlier, Ishaan used to shower Suhana with constant attention, but not getting the love he wanted in return, he's stopped this special treatment.
He's just going where he's happy. To ppl who give him respect and love. He behaved the way he did at the picnic coz he truly believes Suhana doesn't feel anything for him. Suhana kind of brought this on herself. She treated him as a friend for too long, and now he's treating her as a friend. Now she doesn't like this, but she should think about him. When she was indifferent to him, he suffered it silently, even through all the time she was in love with Sid. She never asked what is troubling him. But when he is kind of indifferent to her, she doesn't like it, she's in a constant bad mood.
The lines you quoted are just beautiful, about the "Pyar karney wala". Thanks for reminding me of those 😳. My post may seem to some as if I hate Suhana, but please understand, I really really like her, but I want her to realize just how much she's made Ishaan suffer. Knowing that will just make their relationship stronger. Right now, she's not reached that point. She's too busy wondering why she is so unhappy.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: elle45

Very well written post ruchi! 👏 I too, am a regular reader at these forums but I rarely post here. I don't hate Sona, or BM and Dadaji, and I like Ishaan and Suhana equally, infact, I'm one of the rare ones who have a soft corner for Ishaan coz I feel he's suffered more 😭

I was very confused about this changing Ishaan as well. The constant sticking to Sona was just not true to the character we knew. Ishaan is behaving somewhat inconsistently and I blame the SGP production team for that. When alone, he's the sweetest thing to Suhana, and when with Sona, he completely ignores her. Even I started developing a dislike for Ishaan, but then two things changed my mind.
One was the interview that the writer of SGP gave recently, be sure to read it, and another was a beautiful VM I saw on this forum "Tu jaane Na... by Shakila2244".... it made me realize poor Ishaan is just a human being, and we expect him to be perfect and caring towards Suhana all the time. But in reality, it's not possible. If you give someone special attention, but they treat you like any other houseold member, how long will you give special treatment to them? So earlier, Ishaan used to shower Suhana with constant attention, but not getting the love he wanted in return, he's stopped this special treatment.
He's just going where he's happy. To ppl who give him respect and love. He behaved the way he did at the picnic coz he truly believes Suhana doesn't feel anything for him. Suhana kind of brought this on herself. She treated him as a friend for too long, and now he's treating her as a friend. Now she doesn't like this, but she should think about him. When she was indifferent to him, he suffered it silently, even through all the time she was in love with Sid. She never asked what is troubling him. But when he is kind of indifferent to her, she doesn't like it, she's in a constant bad mood.
The lines you quoted are just beautiful, about the "Pyar karney wala". Thanks for reminding me of those 😳. My post may seem to some as if I hate Suhana, but please understand, I really really like her, but I want her to realize just how much she's made Ishaan suffer. Knowing that will just make their relationship stronger. Right now, she's not reached that point. She's too busy wondering why she is so unhappy.



ok agreed ishaan consider suhana as her friend because of suhana's behavior .................but then why is he treating both friends differently..............i mean when sona is around suhana has no value for ishana.
(plz dont think i am saying this in anger as you tried to bring ishaan's prospective)
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: 111192

ok agreed ishaan consider suhana as her friend because of suhana's behavior .................but then why is he treating both friends differently..............i mean when sona is around suhana has no value for ishana.
(plz dont think i am saying this in anger as you tried to bring ishaan's prospective)

😆 Perhaps that's the difference for him between a "friend" and "best-friend" 😆 Ishaan is very free and frank with Sona (I agree, somehow it's shown to be too much) but Suhana has not allowed him to be so frank with her has she? Plus, poor Ishaan is also a human being, he's making a mistake. He never imagined that Suhana could ever be jealous of him and Sona. Remember, this is the same Suhana who was happy one day that Ishaan had a girlfriend (there was a time when Inder, Elesh made Suhana believe he went for lunch with some girl right?) Ishaan probably thinks, if Suhana was ok with me having a girlfriend, why would she object to me being close to Sona, who is just a friend? That Suhana could be jealous has never crossed his mind.
And of course, I know you're not saying this in anger, why would you? 😊 In fact, there's so much I want to say but how to explain it in words? As I said, even I was resenting Ishaan for his behaviour. Part of that is the SGP unit's fault, they are not consistent with his character.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: elle45

😆 Perhaps that's the difference for him between a "friend" and "best-friend"( AGREED BUT THIS BEST FRIEND WAS NOT IN THE PICTURE FOR A LONG TIME, SHE LEFT AT THE EARLY AGE OF 12-14 OR SO AND SINCE THEN A LOT CHANGED, THE CLOSENESS THEY SHOW IS OF BEST FRIENDS WHO ARE INSEPARABLE FOR A MINUTE, ISHAAN WAS LIKE THIS TO HER 10 12YEARS AGO, BUT I GUESS HE IS RE LIVING HIS CHILDHOOD) 😆 Ishaan is very free and frank with Sona (I agree, somehow it's shown to be too much) but Suhana has not allowed him to be so frank with her has she? Plus, poor Ishaan is also a human being, he's making a mistake. He never imagined that Suhana could ever be jealous of him and Sona. Remember, this is the same Suhana who was happy one day that Ishaan had a girlfriend (there was a time when Inder, Elesh made Suhana believe he went for lunch with some girl right?) Ishaan probably thinks, if Suhana was ok with me having a girlfriend, why would she object to me being close to Sona, who is just a friend? That Suhana could be jealous has never crossed his mind.
And of course, I know you're not saying this in anger, why would you? 😊 In fact, there's so much I want to say but how to explain it in words? As I said, even I was resenting Ishaan for his behaviour. Part of that is the SGP unit's fault, they are not consistent with his character.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Nice post Ruchi!!!

I do agree with everything you wrote. Suhana broke Ishaan's heart 'n' number of times and she never understood him. Yes, she said pretty mean stuff to Ishaan, in spite of which he has always been caring and loving to Suhana. Lekin ek baat Ruchi, Ishaan's behavior lately doesn't cut it... he ignores Suhana every time Sona is around. I can be magnanimous about Ishaan-Sona friendship and I have even posted sometime back that nasseb walon ko milthe hai Sona jaise friend. But, somehow can't approve Ishaan carrying Sona and fighting to be with her, hamesha usse chipke rehna is utter non-sense. In the entire picnic episode did he ever do anything to include Suhana in any activity?

Looks like the creatives are suffering from amnesia. Otherwise they would not have shown Ishaan in poor taste and character which is a 180 degrees of what they first started with. Yaar mujhe majboor kyon kiya yeh asb likhne par...😕
yeh le mere sirf tereliye!!!


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: vishmewell

Nice post Ruchi!!!

I do agree with everything you wrote. Suhana broke Ishaan's heart 'n' number of times and she never understood him. Yes, she said pretty mean stuff to Ishaan, in spite of which he has always been caring and loving to Suhana. Lekin ek baat Ruchi, Ishaan's behavior lately doesn't cut it... he ignores Suhana every time Sona is around. I can be magnanimous about Ishaan-Sona friendship and I have even posted sometime back that nasseb walon ko milthe hai Sona jaise friend. But, somehow can't approve Ishaan carrying Sona and fighting to be with her, hamesha usse chipke rehna is utter non-sense. In the entire picnic episode did he ever do anything to include Suhana in any activity?

Looks like the creatives are suffering from amnesia. Otherwise they would not have shown Ishaan in poor taste and character which is a 180 degrees of what they first started with. Yaar mujhe majboor kyon kiya yeh asb likhne par...😕
yeh le mere sirf tereliye!!!




That picnic was like so irritating for me from Ishaan's side... As you said, i didn't even see Ishaan talking with Suhana nicely.... He was so much busy in booking his "copyrighted material"... 😲

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: vishmewell

Nice post Ruchi!!!

I do agree with everything you wrote. Suhana broke Ishaan's heart 'n' number of times and she never understood him. Yes, she said pretty mean stuff to Ishaan, in spite of which he has always been caring and loving to Suhana. Lekin ek baat Ruchi, Ishaan's behavior lately doesn't cut it... he ignores Suhana every time Sona is around. I can be magnanimous about Ishaan-Sona friendship and I have even posted sometime back that nasseb walon ko milthe hai Sona jaise friend. But, somehow can't approve Ishaan carrying Sona and fighting to be with her, hamesha usse chipke rehna is utter non-sense. In the entire picnic episode did he ever do anything to include Suhana in any activity?

Looks like the creatives are suffering from amnesia. Otherwise they would not have shown Ishaan in poor taste and character which is a 180 degrees of what they first started with. Yaar mujhe majboor kyon kiya yeh asb likhne par...😕
yeh le mere sirf tereliye!!!




Thank you ! Thank you ! 😊

I think CVs shud have tried to show Ishaan's point of view too. Instead they've made him a Fevicol ambassador with Sona.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: elle45

Very well written post ruchi! 👏 I too, am a regular reader at these forums but I rarely post here. I don't hate Sona, or BM and Dadaji, and I like Ishaan and Suhana equally, infact, I'm one of the rare ones who have a soft corner for Ishaan coz I feel he's suffered more 😭

I was very confused about this changing Ishaan as well. The constant sticking to Sona was just not true to the character we knew. Ishaan is behaving somewhat inconsistently and I blame the SGP production team for that. When alone, he's the sweetest thing to Suhana, and when with Sona, he completely ignores her. Even I started developing a dislike for Ishaan, but then two things changed my mind.
One was the interview that the writer of SGP gave recently, be sure to read it, and another was a beautiful VM I saw on this forum "Tu jaane Na... by Shakila2244".... it made me realize poor Ishaan is just a human being, and we expect him to be perfect and caring towards Suhana all the time. But in reality, it's not possible. If you give someone special attention, but they treat you like any other houseold member, how long will you give special treatment to them? So earlier, Ishaan used to shower Suhana with constant attention, but not getting the love he wanted in return, he's stopped this special treatment.
He's just going where he's happy. To ppl who give him respect and love. He behaved the way he did at the picnic coz he truly believes Suhana doesn't feel anything for him. Suhana kind of brought this on herself. She treated him as a friend for too long, and now he's treating her as a friend. Now she doesn't like this, but she should think about him. When she was indifferent to him, he suffered it silently, even through all the time she was in love with Sid. She never asked what is troubling him. But when he is kind of indifferent to her, she doesn't like it, she's in a constant bad mood.
The lines you quoted are just beautiful, about the "Pyar karney wala". Thanks for reminding me of those 😳. My post may seem to some as if I hate Suhana, but please understand, I really really like her, but I want her to realize just how much she's made Ishaan suffer. Knowing that will just make their relationship stronger. Right now, she's not reached that point. She's too busy wondering why she is so unhappy.


very interesting discussion going on 👏 my 2 cents r not required here..but i'd like to say that i'm loving this track as much as i liked all other tracks in sgp..ishan's character is slightly inconsistent these days, i agree to that...once, he told sonali firmly that she's causing problem b/w him and suhana..if he understands this much then he shouldn't be giving her that much attention the next day and the days that followed..at least maintain a distance from her coz he's guessed it that suhana is not liking it...getting intimate with her in the swimming pool (and now at the dance floor) was a bit too much.....he treats sonali like his best friend and his heart is clear toh he is not realizing that sonali is using him to make suhana jealous...in reality i think anyone in ishan's place wud understand and not get cozy with their best friend..and anyone in suhana's place wud have understood these "strange" feelings.....c'mon she's not an alien....she understands love coz she's been through that experience before....

i always liked this feeling of jealousy very much...coz it comes frm deep within the heart...and u know what's going on in ur mind and heart 😊 it cannot be faked..it's a direct signal that ur in love......toh badi ma and dadaji's idea was not that bad....but yes..if suhana felt love for ishan on her own without this sonali angle, woh bhi theek hota..another thing which i really liked was rajni & disha scolding sonali..they r a gem ! they care so much abt suhana and ishan's happiness...earlier also , when suhana acted careless n left them alone in the restaurant, they were so angry with suhana but told ishan that he must stand by her no matter they do it or not..i can never forget that moment....it was lovely......

whateva, now i'm waiting for the climax 😍 when suhana will confess...and ishan and suhana will live like a normal couple...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: crysind


That picnic was like so irritating for me from Ishaan's side... As you said, i didn't even see Ishaan talking with Suhana nicely.... He was so much busy in booking his "copyrighted material"... 😲



The picnic irritated the hell out of me too...
@ underline -
There's so much inconsistency with Ishaan's character unless he is doing that on purpose and is part of dadaji's plan which I doubt. Knowing Suhana is not liking their closeness he continues to chipkofy w/Sona.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: ruchi_mrugjal


Thank you ! Thank you ! 😊

I think CVs shud have tried to show Ishaan's point of view too. Instead they've made him a Fevicol ambassador with Sona.



@ underline - Aaj se I am gonna call Ishaan "Fevicol Ambassador"

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