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Posted: 14 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Armu4eva

Yep i agree..i m much happy that she is not shown ..coz i seriously cannot stand that LOOK she gives to Suhana every time.. Champu n Champa keep blabbering something..!! So thank God...
N yep ..totally agree.. the childhood scene was MARVELLOUS.....👏 i mean the way she spun a different story when BM asked why she was crying...just got me misty eyed as well..!!
N HATS OFF to Moon....hum to fidaaaa hai un par ❤️


i especially liked the dialogue when she said " waha pe side mein ken ka sofa rakha rehta tha" OMG it remind me those days of my childhood,wo galiyan,wo ghar sab kuch rewind ho gaya, such is the power of SGP and Tanu you are right CV ne badi maa ko in dino keval ek hi scene de rakha hai ki suhana ko ghurte raho bas 😆😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
#42
@Armu4eva
😳I totally agree Tanu with the fact that the moment the truth will be out.....BM will be def. hit as hard as if it strikes to her as now....but Panna is just not wanting to think about that as it involves complete shattering of Raunak's false reputation and image..... also which in turn will affect her allready disturbed marital relationship.....so she herself will never want to dig the grave ..... !Panna def. needs a shoulder to cry on.... and if u notice the SGP CTs have smartly let the cat out of the bag only to Rajni who is her emotional support factor..... as of now.... so in a way she has confided to one member on whom she can rely her fear later on..... I feel Panna is very strong and will not consider disturbing BM currently to reduce her intensity of pains.....!
Very well said.👏 .....n in doing so they are as Shounak Baba has rightly noted in his siggy shown a new side to the 'Bhabhi-Nanad' relation 😳 ...so very happy to see Rajni helping to divert or deflect questions thrown at Panna..!! 😊
She tried her best in encouraging him to make him see the situation and handle it wisely and practically.....but he is much blinded in his EGO that Panna possibly fears he might take any drastic step if he loses her trust at this point of time.....!Indirectly she is taking the oars in her sole hands to reach the shore in this rough weather Tanu....! She knows he is on the verge of losing the battle but it is better atleast the other partner try their level best in keeping the spirit rather than both succumb to the failure ....considering the sanctity of their marital relationship...!
@bold red -aha...beautiful...observation Laxmi... 👏 n yep she is taking it on her to take them to the shore... but remember..only the oar cant row u to safety.. the mast has to equally stand to be able to handle the stormy winds 😳 n Raunak here is not doing it...! But yes...this is Pannas biggest majboori..that if she does anything to hurt Raunak now..he will break 😭
Tanu.... U think Raunak and his mother will even consider their emotional help???😆Won't it belittle their false status????
Well i wuld like to think.. Raunak still mite..eventually..n coming to his mom...dun worry i wont let any Kashyap member to save dat..snob...!! I will myself push her in the sea..😡😆
...Tanu.... she did not give him any false happiness and comfort....She was rather practical in telling him to be open about it to his MOM the first time itself.... if he can't be comfortable with his MOM how wud she tell him to be open to her family about it ?
Well why did she give into him sending gifts in diwali?? And why did she not after Raunak lied about where he was..not say anything to Raunak?? But yes..i m not finding any fault in her yaar.. that girls going thru trauma like no other...its indeed praiseworthy..that she stands TALL with a reassuring smile for her Raunaks sake 😳
I hope i was blabbering to your points only Tanu.... as i am lost now...😕..😆😆
U n lost?? 😲 Arre ur the captain of the SGP forum ship... how can u be lost 😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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U tickled my funny bone Tanu when u said that u might even throw that snob(Raunak's mom ) into the deep waters......I cud not control my laugh gags......🤣...her performance has def. made a strong impact on u to think of such a drastic step.......🤣 About standing to his lies when he spoke to BMand distributing those expensive gifts..... Panna had hardly anything to do much as she witnessed her FIL being rubbed the wrong way when he interfered.... she knows her words will def. be thrashed off the window like it happened with her FIL...... so keeping MUM was her best pal at that time.....😆😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@Ambrosia-.Thnk god I was right then😆😆Yeah...me not giving predictions for long...😆...but will be back..with babagiri very soon.

@Sinha,Laxmi di and Tanu di-Hmmm....sadly..me becoming serious day to day...seeing one very serious post in the forum..which thankfully has been closed by Aman😊...and yeah...even I am thinking...why so serious Shounak??..The answer lies in the fact....my exmas are nearing😆😆so studies ki seriousness are having an effect in the forum too....Par...not for long..I shall be back...very soon........






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Posted: 14 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: Armu4eva

Yep i agree..i m much happy that she is not shown ..coz i seriously cannot stand that LOOK she gives to Suhana every time.. Champu n Champa keep blabbering something..!! So thank God...
N yep ..totally agree.. the childhood scene was MARVELLOUS.....👏 i mean the way she spun a different story when BM asked why she was crying...just got me misty eyed as well..!!
N HATS OFF to Moon....hum to fidaaaa hai un par ❤️



Tanu wah kaya nam diya hai ishaan aur sona ko🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Posted: 14 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: 111192



Tanu wah kaya nam diya hai ishaan aur sona ko🤣



I too liked the name,meri tubelight bhi ab jali hai jab renu ne reply diya though champu toh samajh aa gaya tha par champa kaun hai ye ab samajh mein aaya hai ,champa really suits , just imagine her in a champa like dress also that of typical village style and ishaan with lungi-kurta then it will be the jodi of century - Champu and Champa🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Posted: 14 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: Sinha18

SPAM
Now to awaking the sweet fun of our forum ,i m going to post a joke here though off the topic but no matter if it can make us laugh , this joke is on gr8 SIR Newton and My Biggest superstar of all time SHRI RAJNIKANTH , for me he is the GOD of indian cinema , i m in love with the recent movie robot.

JOKE I :Newton - The Father of Physics committed suicide, you know why?

Here are the reasons: (Plz just take it as a joke , no offense against any one, i m a huge rajini fan)

Once he came to India and He watched a few movies and had his
head spinning He was convinced that all his logics and laws in physics
were just a huge pile of junk and apologized for everything he had done.

In the movie of Rajanikanth, Newton was confused to such an extent
that he went paranoid.

Here are a few scenes:

1) Rajanikanth has a Brain Tumor which, according to the doctors can't
be cured and his death is imminent. In one of the fights, our sweet
Rajanikanth is shot in the head. To everybody's surprise, the bullet
passes through his ears taking away the tumor along with it and he is
cured. Long Live Rajanikanth!

2) In one of the movies, Rajanikanth is confronted with 3 gangsters.
Rajanikanth has a gun but unfortunately only one bullet. Guess, what
he does....... He holds a knife in his hand and throws at the middle
gangster & shoots the bullet towards the knife. The knife cuts the
bullet into 2 pieces and kills both the gangsters on each side of the
middle gangster & the knife kills the middle one.

3) Rajanikanth is chased by a gangster. Rajanikanth has a revolver but
he has no bullets in it. Guess what he does. Nah not even in your
remotest imaginations. He waits for the gangster to shoot. As soon as
the gangster shoots, Rajanikanth opens the bullet compartment of his
revolver and catches the bullet. Then, he closes the bullet
compartment and fires his gun. Bang... And the gangster dies....

This was too much for our Newton to take and he was completely shaken
and he decided to go back. But he happened to see a movie for one last
time! and thought that at least one movie will follow his theory of
physics. The whole movie goes fine and Newton is happy that all in the
world hasn't changed.

Oops not so fast.


The Climax finally arrives. Rajanikanth gets to know that the villain
is on the other side of a very high wall. So high that Rajanikanth
can't jump even if he tries like one of those superman techniques that
our heroes normally use. Rajanikanth has to desperately kill the
villain because its the climax. (Newton dada is smiling since it is
virtually impossible).
Rajanikanth suddenly pulls two guns from his
pocket (Probably a backup). He throws one gun in the air and when the
gun has reached the height of the wall, he shoots at the trigger of
the first gun in air, with his second gun. Now the first gun fires off
and the villain is dead.

Newton commits Suicide. 😆😆

May his soul rest in peace.

JOKE II: James Bond tried to show his smartness on indians but see what happened

whenever james bond meets someone he introduces himself saying:-

"the name is bond!!!! (smiles.....).....james bond...!!!!"

his style is absolutely killing.....but when he meets one of the telugu guy......the scene is somewhat different:--

telugu guy: "hello, may i know your name please?"

james bond: "the name is bond"

continuing in his inimitable style, " .....james bond."

then bond asks: "and you?"

telugu guy: " my name is reddy...

siva reddy...

samba siva reddy...

venkata samba siva reddy...

srinivasa venkata samba siva reddy...

yarlagadda srinivasa venkata samba siva reddy...

rajasekhara yarlagadda srinivasa venkata samba siva reddy...

sitaramanjaneyula rajasekhara yarlagadda srinivasa venkata samba siva reddy...

vijayawada sitaramanjaneyula rajasekhara yarlagadda srinivasa venkata samba siva reddy..."

james bond fades......

since then when anyone asks bond his name he simply says "james bond"

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SORRY TANU FOR THE SPAM BUT I JUST TRY TO AWAKE THE lost FUN AND SWEETNESS OF OUR FORUM, HOPE U DON'T MIND, AND IT IS JUST A JOKE ,JUST AS A FUN, I M THE BIGGEST FAN OF RAJNIKANTH TILL DATE



Sinhaji, both your jokes were simply fantabulous!!! 👏👏👏 🤣🤣🤣🤣 FIrst joke free mein picture dikhadiya... 🤣🤣🤣

The second one I am still 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that is so true with Andhra names... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Fantastic... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Posted: 14 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: Sinha18



Hats off to you👏, you summarized the whole situation very nicely and liked your use of Bernard shaw's thought and especially your use of " Newtons III law of motion- to every action there is equal and opposite reaction", very true rounak is doing wrong and constantly encouraged to continue this by none other than his own mother, you are right telling truth right now is the only solution to this problem other wise things becomes more worse for Panna though it may bitter her relations with rounak but this will be very small affect in front of what will happen if she continue to hide the truth even rounak can go mad, at least telling the truth will save her husband. come on panna tell the truth



Yes, by telling her family the truth about Raunak's unemployment, there will be display of displeasure by her MIL and husband. But that's temporary. Badal ki tarah barsega, aur barasneke baad sab shant hojayega. Her family will counsel him to be practical and himmat bhi bhadayenge Raunak ki. By not telling her family, she is causing more problems as Raunak and his mom are dilutional. There's nothing wrong in losing a job nor it should be considered shameful.

I did not like the Panna character right from the beginning. She is a good person. But definitely not a good wife. I believe a good wife is one who is Karyeshu Daasi, Karneshu Mantri, Bhojyeshu Maata, Sayaneshu Rambha. I am somehow convinced Panna failed to counsel Raunak in his high and low.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: Armu4eva

See now this is a perfect argument....👏 so very well observed...!! I agree.. leaving the emotions.. societal pressures/obligations that are weighing on Panna's mind.. i guess a silent or weak opposition to Raunaks 'I wont budge' attitude is surely not going to solve the problem!!
But i guess...we are all emotional phools.... somehow..emotions do bog us down!! 😊 Luvd your post yaar 🤗




Thanks Tanu. Societal pressure is something you thrust on ourselves. We often think others have time to think about you or your social status or the problems. But the fact is, nobody does... perfect example is Raunak. Nobody knows or cares what's happening in his life. His colleagues who are aware of Raunak losing his job did not care much as to what's happening with him or gossip about it. Out of sight, out of mind. Raunak is thinking about society, but society is not thinking about Raunak.

Once a close friend of mine called to request me to have my teenage son counsel her teenage son coz the kid was experiencing peer pressure. I felt very uncomfortable and nervous as I was until then in bliss that everything is alright w/ my son. I felt like a bad parent as it never occurred to me that my son would also be experiencing peer pressure and I may be unaware.

I asked my son what does peer pressure means to him and replied to me in ONE SENTENCE "Feeling the peer pressure? Time to move away from those peers to find the like-minded friends; All peers can't be your friends, but your friends are your peers". I started breathing normal after I heard my son. It all depends on how we handle societal/peer pressures.

Had Panna been the woman of substance as this forum had made her to be, which I think is a make believe, would have had a tremendous impact on Raunak keeping him grounded and humbled. She failed to humble him in his highs, and certainly can't keep him grounded in his lows.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: laxmi_s

Oh.....What a wonderful thread yaar Tanu..... mazaa aa gaya..... and thot provoking posts by all....👍🏼..... Tanu, Vish di..... loved your practical aspect.....Vish di.... loved that masculine thot.....🤣...just kidding..... i expected your analysis to be this way..... Di....😉

From Kashyap parivaar's POV:
Guyz.......let's talk about the woman "Panna" in particular who has seen the worse time in her childhood days by the way of separation of her mom and dad.....yet seen her Mom managing to hide her tears from others in the family and keeping her attitude positive by living life for others....All that Panna can contribute to this mother is satisfaction and happiness that her children r now happily settled and there is no question of HISTORY repeating itself......Ishwar's estrangement has left a scar in the marraige term for Shailaja and she is not able to overcome that fear..... She constantly monitors Panna's relationships with her inlaws, Suhana's neglection towards Ishaan all because of JUST this FEAR....!
Now if in a practical way....Panna just utters this truth to her family thinking of sharing her probs with them with a way to get into solutions......Alok might be able to help her out calmly.....But what about BM? Won't this be a big blow to her as she knows the family survives on Raunak's BIG JOB status and cannot survive a middle class manner......???😲 She is matured enuf to get quite disturbed about this issue and probably Panna knows this well in advance and prefers to keep her probs to herself just like the way BM does..........!
From Raunak's family POV:
Raunak and his ego will be shattered if she breaks his trust and tells it to her family....Raunak's mom is bitter-mouthed and sarcastically puts the kashyap parivaar low for every issue......we know how wud she react if Kashyap parivaar offers help...... but Raunak too falls in this category....he has been sweet enuf to them in his good times as he never has been conscious..... now he is conscious about his status and in his thinking any help offered by them wud add to his wound rather than heal his hurt.....!
Not to forget Panna is brought up by BM who has her principles in keeping her family image with all respects and Panna will never out of consciousness speak about her inlaws problems to her family......

A woman until marraige has to think only about her family...... but when she gets married..... she needs to think about 2 families..... Panna is such a woman who thinks about the issues from both the aspects........So i don't feel she is wrong in not revealing it to Kashyap parivaar..... She is a woman who thinks much before she acts.....



Laxmi, mere pyari behna, @ underline, practical + masculine = Men are practical, yaneki... women are not practical? 😳 This is gender profiling... what is the basis of your profiling?😉 Why do you think women can't be practical? Although our scriptures place goddesses and women on a high pedestal, hamare soch hamesha zaroorat se chota kyon padjaatha hai? God gave women emotions a natural asset not to make us weak and meek or get washed away in emotions, but to ONLY use it to make us stronger and better decision makers.

Now about both your POVs, I totally disagree with you. They are your assumptions. I think you are letting your imagination get ahead of you.. 😆😆😆 Arree... zara ghode ko lagam do aur apne kaboo mein karo...😆😆 And you may call it practical masculine way again...😆😆😆

@ red - don't you think BM "living for others" karthe karthe apni husband ki choti choti ichaon ko poora karna zaroorat nahi samjhi aur husband ka saat hi choot gaye?😳 Did she make her husband part of others? Something to think about and analyze.

@ red underline - Life doesn't come with any guarantees. But you certainly have warranty which is your attitude and practicality. It is ok for BM or Panna to not want the history to repeat. But it would be wrong to live in fear psychosis. One has to live life prudently and diligently and deal with problems as you face them.

Eshwar's estrangement? You are wrong! Thali kabhi ek haath se bajthi hai? BM was too busy pleasing the family and making herself a good bahu. It is just not enuf to be a good bahu. Before a woman becomes a good bahu, one should become a good wife. Laxmi, you did not get the subtle message that was sent thru BM-Suhana conversation when BM shows Suhana a blouse Eshwar has gifted to her and wished and requested her to wear several times but BM ne pehna zaroorat nahi samjhi coz she was shy. And also says Eshwar ne bahut koshish ki... She did not understand her husband's chahat. No other relationship other than man and wife is a physical relationship. So to have a spark in a marriage IS AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT. Spark gives physical proximity. Absence of spark and physical proximity in a marriage is a bemaan rishta. Both man and wife MUST work to keep the spark in marriage.

@ blue underline - You are wrong again. You don't share your problems w/loved ones necessarily for a solution. It reduces emotional stress and helps you focus on a problem in hand. In the process one may find solution which should be welcomed. Doing something with an expectation is wrong. Do the best you can and leave the results to god.

@ blue - Wrong again. That's an assumption. One cannot let the assumptions lead their life. Assumptions have to be validated with facts.

@ green - Wrong. You are comparing apples to oranges. Every problem is a stand-alone and unique. It may provide historic information but not a perfect solution. So are Panna and BMs problems. Panna's problem is not something that's a top secret that can't be shared with anybody. Whereas BMs problem is something more personal. Of course BM cant share w/family and her children why Eshwar left her, leaving them all to believe he estranged her. If you start looking thru a magnifying glass, everything seems huge and humongous.. and the big picture gets lost... that's why god has given us 20/20 vision yaar not 2000/20... 😆😆😆 let's look at it with a normal 20/20 vision 😆

@ green underline - You are so wrong again.
Isn't that what is exactly the need of the hour??? Shattering Raunak's inflated, bolstered ego??? 😳😳😳 What good is his ego doing to him and his family?
Can you change or stop people who are into the habit of bad-mouthing others for a reason or no reason? Panna's mil did it in the past, doing in the present and in all probability, may continue to do it in future... Panna sharing this khabar w/family or not has no bearing to her mil bad-mouthing her family.

Kashyap parivar will offer help to Raunak and his family is your assumption again. There is no validity to your assumptions. You are being pessimistic... why cant you say the glass is half full instead of saying the glass is half empty? He may be hurt in the beginning but will overcome soon...after all, time heals everything... and he needs some positive reinforcing... somebody has to knock sense into him.. make him see things the way they are...

Raunak's employment problem is HER problem NOT her in-laws problem. Iss mein BM's upbringing and il's family image kahase agaye? Tum hawa mein sethu math baando yaar...😆

@ blue - Thinking before acting is a good thing. But thinking right or practical is what helps you solve the problem.


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