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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: lal04

Arshicsji, great bytes and even more so your love and sense of loyalty towards the show as well as your admirers. Initially I was not much enthusiastic about the hackneyed idea of memory loss of the lead character. However I believed the concept has the capacity to develop into a substantial track and also a potential source of conflict between the two leads. But now it has been turned into an absolute farce. The amnesia track if handled reasonably would have explored another facet of samud characters and their relationship, provided poignant and emotional experience for the viewers and also extracted brilliant performances from the actors. Of late I liked only 2 episodes (full-on samud, just before the mishap). Both were executed sensibly with poignancy in some measure and romance in a large measure. Be it saras-kumud or saras-jw, both are able to achieve the crackling chemistry and charm.


Today I managed to catch the last 3 episodes to have an idea of how they go about this senseless storyline. Height of insensitivity, thoughtlessness and irresponsibility. On top of that, gumaan's act was an onslaught on the viewers' senses. In the original version she was just a selfish, conceited and manipulative woman. So the choice was apt and she too did justice to it to a reasonable extent. After her comeback she was resurrected as a gruesome killer with premeditation which is not her forte. With her crazy antics she made the act hideous. In order to develop the revenge plot kabir's character was concocted out of nowhere. Similarly now 'the dead' saraswathima comes alive but with a cliche twist. (As such the new saras has no remnants of his mother except on his name). This fabrication would demean the old version which primarily dealt with saras's deeply disturbing nightmares and the events that were relived with all the accompanying trauma.

In this new storyline the performances of the leads are sketchy. For the 1st time in the storytelling scene I could see only GR, no traces of saras. Also GR's portrayal of saras who is now said to be on a mission (kumud's recovery), is not at all intense and convincing, rather comes off as relaxed and zealous. Jen on the other hand is quite noncommittal. The actors with ambition have been trapped in this script for long which meanders without any vision and objective.

Here I would like to revisit my comment on jyo's post a couple of days ago. Instead of taking pains to recollect and rewrite I simply do the 'edit & paste'.

It is unfortunate that we are dealing with a bunch of skilled(!) dodgers in the name of writers who persistently evade their responsibility and commitment. The downfall of the show is purely due to the lack of intent more than anything else. The (un)creatives have thoroughly lost the plot and their direction. The laziness from each and every one could be seen on screen for quite some thing!! In a nutshell it's an opportunity wasted. They fulfilled our wish, we got what we asked for. Saras is back to life (wish they don't meddle with it again).

To concoct the new storyline they had three options before them. 1. the much awaited memory loss sequence which offered some solid scope for the future course of events in a fairly sensible manner inspite of it being a cliched route. Only with this storyline we can root for intense, emotional and romantic samud. 2. To restore saras to his sound health and proceed to deal with kumud's trauma and in the process explore samud relationship along with tracking down the next villain in line (gumaan?) and then perfectly ending the show with samud kushkabri and kabir shaadi. 3. The fake amnesia track which is a pointless exercise and the scope and potential is very much limited, almost negligible.

So the cvs have finally picked the 3rd option and it is now going on the expected lines. The worst part is that it will adversely affect the performance of the leads leading to mediocrity. They may even adopt the same hamhanded approach of the Mumbai track and bring everything to a close in a sudden and hurried way. Also because of this senseless and unconvincing concept viewers can not connect to samud emotionally and as a result samud scenes may not click with the audience.

In short, my thoughts :

1. I regard this as character butchery of saras.

2. Wish arshiji and you were writing for the show. It would be a fine combination of substance, subtlety, humour and creativity

This cut and paste thing is to reaffirm 2 points. i.e what I strongly feel is more than the creative bankruptcy it is the lack of intent on their part. Secondly if not for your posts the show would have been so much poorer. So sincerely wish you were writing for the show.

Want to add 2 more thoughts :

3. My request to cvs :- for the remaining days please retain only samud, dugba and danny in the show and oust the rest of the cast from the show.

4. Please confirm the show's closure. We can watch the rest of the tamaasha at peace.

Once again thank you for the daily update in your unique style.


Lal04, reading you after a long time on CB, I thought ceevees had succeeded in driving you away.

You've said it all, about the depths to which the show has sunk and how everyone, including, I fear Gautam himself, seem to be just clocking time, without even bothering about quality.

Both Jen and Gautam seem to be below par, maybe because they themselves do not see any logic in what they are doing.

The new trend of camera pausing on everyone's face and showing their expressions is annoying, and a mark of poor poor direction. Clearly shows that the task of making the show has been relegated to the junior most team, and there is no finesse left anymore.

Even the Saraswati track, which is just a copy paste of same track in SNS, shows that the writers have just been instructed to copy paste and not waste their time on the story.

Deplorable state of affairs
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: pasumarthisa

Loved Danny-Saras scene in the beginning. Danny being so open about his bhaiyya missing his bhabhi. And saras telling that he is going off limits. I want more of their scenes before the show ends if we can't get saras-kumud scenes. Those can be ghisa-pita n boring. But danny-saras scenes still have that freshness in them.

Saras's Ott acting was an eyesore. His 'mujhe kya pasand hai' and 'aisa lagta hai ki' were too much. But liked how the others got irritated. For once, it was good to see him at the receiving end.

There were some good lines like 'mein apne life ki chapters yaad karne ki koshish kar raha hu' etc.

Saras-kumud scene was way below par. The way the director showed Desais' expressions repeated in a sequence was horrible.

This episode was written ok but very poorly executed. But 1000 times better than seeing guman on screen. An assault on the senses and mind. Yesterday I said that the actor n the way the character was written was a result of SLB team's worst day at work. Nothing more.

I never wanted an amnesia track like most of the forum wasis who have been shocked at this twist. I feel this track is being trivialized by over-zealous saras's acting(not GR's. The problem is in writing here), poor execution and return of guman. Things are going loose. But I am ok with it on the whole. Saras is acting silly at times but never missed the big picture. I do not think Kumud is being taken for a ride.



Santhi, I had liked the idea of an amnesia track, because I felt that the writers were looking for some small emotional track before ending the show. And amnesia would be a great chance to do that.

I had hoped that we would have a replay do all the old moments, where Kumud recreates and Saras's ehsaas brings back flashes of recall, piece by piece and he once again falls in love with this beautiful stranger who claims to be his wife.

This would prove to Kumud also that they are meant for each other and even fate cannot separate them.

But know in the ceevees, I guess I should've known they would butcher anything !
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: Arshics


Santhi, I had liked the idea of an amnesia track, because I felt that the writers were looking for some small emotional track before ending the show. And amnesia would be a great chance to do that.

I had hoped that we would have a replay do all the old moments, where Kumud recreates and Saras's ehsaas brings back flashes of recall, piece by piece and he once again falls in love with this beautiful stranger who claims to be his wife.

This would prove to Kumud also that they are meant for each other and even fate cannot separate them.

But know in the ceevees, I guess I should've known they would butcher anything !



Its like right hand doesnt know what left is doing. When scene is well conceptualized, its poorly directed or vice-versa. And the rest half of the time both writing n directing go for a toss.

Even in this track they could do whatever u said. But they trivialized it.

But I loved Saras-danny scene in the very beginning a lot.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I feel when Kumud comes to know of Saras's fake amnesia, she will be angry, she'll brood, she'll sulk . Saras will try different methods to manaofy her, till the villain enters and harm Kumud. Then Kumud will realise that how much she loves Saras and they are soul mates .Finally she will be saved by our knight in shining armour . Romance will just about to be blooming ...and then phat CVs will give a blow to us by showing Kumud Sundari bikering and nagging .Hey bhagwaan !
We've been going through this rut again and again .But as an idiot i still watch this show in anticipation .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pasumarthisa



Its like right hand doesnt know what left is doing. When scene is well conceptualized, its poorly directed or vice-versa. And the rest half of the time both writing n directing go for a toss.

Even in this track they could do whatever u said. But they trivialized it.

But I loved Saras-danny scene in the very beginning a lot.


Yeah, Danny was cute even on the table, and the whole bothers camaraderie was fun to watch. But apart from that this thing is making no sense
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rosame

I feel when Kumud comes to know of Saras's fake amnesia, she will be angry, she'll brood, she'll sulk . Saras will try different methods to manaofy her, till the villain enters and harm Kumud. Then Kumud will realise that how much she loves Saras and they are soul mates .Finally she will be saved by our knight in shining armour . Romance will just about to be blooming ...and then phat CVs will give a blow to us by showing Kumud Sundari bikering and nagging .Hey bhagwaan !
We've been going through this rut again and again .But as an idiot i still watch this show in anticipation .


Rose, now they've decided to pull another rabbit out of the hat, that of Saraswati ma.

So she never died. What nonsense !
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rosame

I feel when Kumud comes to know of Saras's fake amnesia, she will be angry, she'll brood, she'll sulk . Saras will try different methods to manaofy her, till the villain enters and harm Kumud. Then Kumud will realise that how much she loves Saras and they are soul mates .Finally she will be saved by our knight in shining armour . Romance will just about to be blooming ...and then phat CVs will give a blow to us by showing Kumud Sundari bikering and nagging .Hey bhagwaan !
We've been going through this rut again and again .But as an idiot i still watch this show in anticipation .


Romance will just about to be blooming... Usi stage mein rehta hai ye show.

Explicit romance dikhana manaaa hai (for whatever reasons I dont want to rake up controversies).

Even dialogues dont suggest passion or romance.

Romance will be nipped in the bud. It will never bloom. Instead, lot of nonsense can be shown.

BTW Guman doesnt even know how many mistakes she made. Because CVs are still writing. Her 'bhandaar' of evil deeds is like an 'akshaya patra'. Never ending.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Btw... kuch aadatein badli nahin hai...
Dont know if you looked beyond the trivia like story, direction and acting to check out Kumud and Saras' colour co-ordinated clothes?????? The absolute same OTT shade of shocking pink...😳

waah Rab ne Bana Di Jodi 😉


p.s. Re the direction, I think this show's being used as some trainee's play school..."baccha idhar aake kuch bhi try karo, khelo aur masti karo... aur baad mein ABCD seekho"
Edited by happychappy - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: happychappy

Btw... kuch aadatein badli nahin hai...

Dont know if you looked beyond the trivia like story, direction and acting to check out Kumud and Saras' colour co-ordinated clothes?????? The absolute same OTT shade of shocking pink...😳

waah Rab ne Bana Di Jodi 😉


p.s. Re the direction, I think this show's being used as some trainee's play school..."baccha idhar aake kuch bhi try karo, khelo aur masti karo... aur baad mein ABCD seekho"


Assault on the eyes. Donon ke dono.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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pata nahi kyu mujhe lag raha hai aisai chalne wala hai, tried to watch after days ... saras so cute 😃
writer ji reducing kumud character as well while reducing saras character per requirement but kumud has cute debar's so why this writer not using her rather showing everyone OTT expression specially kumud's mom ...arrgghh...why she apply so much lipstick. new boy need to be normal..what seniors doing ... that boy looks like too much uncomfortable around existed family or whatever cast //
Edited by Linda25 - 11 years ago

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