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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Infofan

BTW - why is Kusum wearing the chuda? In SC land Gujjus wear chudas and observe KC?😕


Not gujjus all over, just ratnanagri ke gujjus

Well, I think in RN there is a gujju karvachauth which comes in the month of June, unlike the Panju KC that comes in oct/ nov 😆

And not only do the brides wear chuda, but the dulhas also wear sehra that is more panju than any panju, full face covering wala.

Chuda aur sehra pe kya question Nandy. Jab poori shaadi hi questionable thi. 😡


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Arshics


Not gujjus all over, just ratnanagri ke gujjus

Well, I think in RN there is a gujju karvachauth which comes in the month of June, unlike the Panju KC that comes in oct/ nov 😆

And not only do the brides wear chuda, but the dulhas also wear sehra that is more panju than any panju, full face covering wala.

Chuda aur sehra pe kya question Nandy. Jab poori shaadi hi questionable thi. 😡




Shaadi hi nahi, poora show hi questionable ho gaya.

Kewshun was just TPing. 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: pasumarthisa

Arshi,

I typed something on my phone and lost it.
Yesterday's episode was a filler for me. Except that Pramad made some progress. His stretching nostrils wala goody-goody act was not to my liking at all. Was tired of him poking his nose everywhere in that haveli where only fools live.
Other than that, too much time was spent on Kusum's 'singaar-utaarna'. So marriage is not sacrosanct in Desais' minds. Thats surprising to know.
Khoti kaki, you believed in the 'bandhan' of marriage. But where is all that talk now? I thought you were consistent. You disappointed me.
Now my thoughts go to Danny. Is he really dumb to understand the writing on the wall. Everyone clearly told him Kusum doesnt like him. Then he said to saras even if she doesnt my love is enough. And even after she attempted suicide his brain didnt work. She had to spell it out in uppercase for him to understand. Now he says, Kumud's mind was filled with Saras when she married. But his mind was intact right? Danny baba - didnt you see your Saras bhaiyya hugging Kumud ji? With their love in mind, cant you even understand a little why Saras did this?
Saras has begged her enough. And kumud looked listless in that mandir scene. Her dialogues were vague. She is wearing that huge mask now in front of Saras though she walked away from Kusum when she was talking about imagining it was Saras during the wedding. And the mask wont come off easily.
But next week should be better. Love is definitely on the back-burner. Its all about who is right and who is wrong. Even next week.
I thing its wrong to say that for Kumud family comes first and for Saras kumud comes first. Saras is much more compassionate than Kumud. For him, her family comes first too. See how he repeatedly says that he took this decision for Kusum. he thinks for everyone around him. Marriage should not be totally cancelled because VC and guniyal will be heart-broken. He cannot be the groom because he cant make Kusum happy and Danny sad. And kumud will be life-less. He thought about everyone involved.


Beautifully written Santhi. There was something very sad and poignant in the way you wrote about Saras, which actually mirrors what we have all been feeling

One question has been bothering me about this track - a lot

And I haven't been able to figure out the answer to it

What is the CVs position on kusum's love for Saras ?

Let me explain by drawing a parallel to pramaad and Kumud's marriage time

Pramaad was evil, but his mother loved him blindly, while we bashed saubhagya Devi plenty, it was for being blind to pramaad's faults, but her love was never questioned

It was understandable and acceptable that a mother would just not see her sons faults, and would still demand her daughter in law also worship the ground her useless son walks on , it happens.

But , in case of kusum, the whole love itself is so questionable, IMO

That kusum feel that way about Saras itself is wrong, that her family actually accept it as true love, and not as an obsession that is unhealthy and damaging, is what feels so wrong

The cvs position in this is confusing, are they trying to show that this love is ok, and kusums feelings for Saras are actually normal and real?

Because the whole scene of her removing jewelry, all the focus on her crying, suicide - somewhere I feel cvs are trying to show kusum in a sympathetic light and not as a crazy obsessed girl.

Throughout this track, what is the writers stand on kusum - are they projecting kusum's "love" as something natural and normal , just a bit overboard , or do they too, like us believe that her feelings themselves are questionable and can't be termed as love ?

Because I don't see any character questioning that, they all seem to accept her love as right, and seem to pity her plight.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Million dollar (or no wait one paise wala for cvs) question arshi. Kaun jaanta hai? If they are thinking this much.
Kusum might still be redeemed. Counsellor jo aa raha hai. There is hope. But the other Desais? The way you wrote about their reaction sums up what i/we have been saying. The way they reacted, there is no hope. These days they are used as puppets. So I don't think their gandi soch will be questioned. Saras might question kumud. Wahi bahut badi baat hai. Dugbaa is silent. I think because of this kusum's suicide drama. The whole thing is so messy. Biggest surprise would be dugbaa questioning guniyal n vc.
I wrote something on osj's thread about Kumud n pramad. Can u check that.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: pasumarthisa

Million dollar (or no wait one paise wala for cvs) question arshi. Kaun jaanta hai? If they are thinking this much.

Kusum might still be redeemed. Counsellor jo aa raha hai. There is hope. But the other Desais? The way you wrote about their reaction sums up what i/we have been saying. The way they reacted, there is no hope. These days they are used as puppets. So I don't think their gandi soch will be questioned. Saras might question kumud. Wahi bahut badi baat hai. Dugbaa is silent. I think because of this kusum's suicide drama. The whole thing is so messy. Biggest surprise would be dugbaa questioning guniyal n vc.
I wrote something on osj's thread about Kumud n pramad. Can u check that.


Read it Santhi, and have replied there.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: Arshics


Not gujjus all over, just ratnanagri ke gujjus

Well, I think in RN there is a gujju karvachauth which comes in the month of June, unlike the Panju KC that comes in oct/ nov 😆

And not only do the brides wear chuda, but the dulhas also wear sehra that is more panju than any panju, full face covering wala.

Chuda aur sehra pe kya question Nandy. Jab poori shaadi hi questionable thi. 😡



There is no Karvachauth in Gujjus - not in June , not even in Oct/Nov. 😛 This applies to only Ratnanagari gujjus.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Arshics


Beautifully written Santhi. There was something very sad and poignant in the way you wrote about Saras, which actually mirrors what we have all been feeling

One question has been bothering me about this track - a lot

And I haven't been able to figure out the answer to it

What is the CVs position on kusum's love for Saras ?

Let me explain by drawing a parallel to pramaad and Kumud's marriage time

Pramaad was evil, but his mother loved him blindly, while we bashed saubhagya Devi plenty, it was for being blind to pramaad's faults, but her love was never questioned

It was understandable and acceptable that a mother would just not see her sons faults, and would still demand her daughter in law also worship the ground her useless son walks on , it happens.

But , in case of kusum, the whole love itself is so questionable, IMO

That kusum feel that way about Saras itself is wrong, that her family actually accept it as true love, and not as an obsession that is unhealthy and damaging, is what feels so wrong

The cvs position in this is confusing, are they trying to show that this love is ok, and kusums feelings for Saras are actually normal and real?

Because the whole scene of her removing jewelry, all the focus on her crying, suicide - somewhere I feel cvs are trying to show kusum in a sympathetic light and not as a crazy obsessed girl.

Throughout this track, what is the writers stand on kusum - are they projecting kusum's "love" as something natural and normal , just a bit overboard , or do they too, like us believe that her feelings themselves are questionable and can't be termed as love ?

Because I don't see any character questioning that, they all seem to accept her love as right, and seem to pity her plight.


@Blue, This is so true, Santhi. Saras has a really big heart, when he loved Kumud, he treated her family as his own... we have lost count of the number of times he has saved them from all sorts of sticky spots -starting with Kumari and Umesh...😕

And Kumud, she barely acknowledges Danny's love for Kusum... She wanted and expected Saras (her own soul-mate!) to marry his brother's dream girl!!!!!! -Nary a thought about either brother's feelings???? Do men have no emotions??? - What more do you need to know about Kumud-as-she-is-now?

The only time she mentions Danny is to rub salt in Saras' wounds, saying see even Danny is suffering now because of Your Dhoka!???

There is no redemption after this...Our Kumud is dead! Long live our Kumud! CV's ka saashtaang pranaam...😡

@Red, this is the question, Arshi!

If all viewers feel it's yuck, and the CV's compare it to Meera's adoration... And later they show her demanding to marry Saras, 😕 knowing that Saras Loves her Not...And the final straw, when she says after "anjaane mein" marrying Danny... I want out, I can't stay in a marriage where I Am Not in Love with my pati!!! Even this gem, addressed to Kumud,..."hum mein se surf ek khush rah sakti hai???" Oh you knew you were killing off your Didi's love and life with your antics did you? And that made not an iota of difference to your zidd???

They have tarred Kusum so black, I can't see any way that they should show her living happily "even" with Danny... Will they now attempt to show some jaadu-wala counsellor who will right her addled brain? My (wild) guess is that they show her further conspiring against Saras-Kumud, and thus meeting a sticky end somehow?

Btw, havent we been waiting for the sticky end of somebody (Pramaad) for a Looong time now? One more person added to this list, imho...😊

As somebody rightly said, we propose, the CV's dispose... Dekhna hai to dekh lo!
Edited by happychappy - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38
Nose poker and rant queen of CB is here😳
"The cvs position in this is confusing, are they trying to show that this love is ok, and kusums feelings for Saras are actually normal and real?"

Arshi ji, they have already addressed that Kusum's love is in fact infatuation through Kumud's and Gunial's reactions on the day before the wedding. Kumud's reaction from "How obscene" to "He can never have feelings for you" to "He'll marry you because he's a good man and he cares about me" in a matter of few hours boggles my brain. Momma Desai didn't care a hoot after knowing about Kusum's attempted suicide for the first time. Now the entire family is too enthusiastic in pummeling Saras with all kinds of names, betrayer of trust yada yada yada to no end.

Kumud is the worst written character at the moment...her caprice, the readiness to get back to Prammy, bringing again and again the fateful night whenever she wants to dethrone Saras to win an argument, sheeh, when did she get so bellicose?! Her words for Saras are downright harsh and vitriolic and so uncalled for. It is understandable that Saras's treachery has affected Kumud but what I can not understand is how is she still not aware of Saras's idiosyncrasies, that he'd never pay heed to her silliest pleas like ever. Is it the level of understanding she has for a soulmate? 🤢🤢🤢


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Happy,
Sticky end ka koi pata nahi.

For all we know, Guman is still matkoing around scheming and plotting in her sexy sarees, and her besotted husband is oblivious of everything except her

That her ladla Danny is also stuck in RN with another Desai girl doesn't seem to matter

I would have loved to see a broken and repentant Guman - no chance, cvs have no desire to give us that closure

Pramaad confesses to all sorts of heinous stuff, yet there is no reaction from the Desai dad,

So on Kusum front also I expect the same amnesia. Miraculously she will transform from Saras ki meera to Danny ki seeta , and no one will bat an eyelid

So bolo all izz well
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tryforceful

Nose poker and rant queen of CB is here😳

"The cvs position in this is confusing, are they trying to show that this love is ok, and kusums feelings for Saras are actually normal and real?"

Arshi ji, they have already addressed that Kusum's love is in fact infatuation through Kumud's and Gunial's reactions on the day before the wedding. Kumud's reaction from "How obscene" to "He can never have feelings for you" to "He'll marry you because he's a good man and he cares about me" in a matter of few hours boggles my brain. Momma Desai didn't care a hoot after knowing about Kusum's attempted suicide for the first time. Now the entire family is too enthusiastic in pummeling Saras with all kinds of names, betrayer of trust yada yada yada to no end.

Kumud is the worst written character at the moment...her caprice, the readiness to get back to Prammy, bringing again and again the fateful night whenever she wants to dethrone Saras to win an argument, sheeh, when did she get so bellicose?! Her words for Saras are downright harsh and vitriolic and so uncalled for. It is understandable that Saras's treachery has affected Kumud but what I can not understand is how is she still not aware of Saras's idiosyncrasies, that he'd never pay heed to her silliest pleas like ever. Is it the level of understanding she has for a soulmate? 🤢🤢🤢



Shrija, both Kumud and Guniyal have actually been very supportive of kusums meera love, and have actually validated it by Guniyals - one eye shall smile and one weep type of crap, and Kumud's - she will die without you, you are meant for her

The mild initial reaction has been diluted by latter poor kusum dialogues.

The one which takes the cake is Guniyals latest - kusum trusts her sister so much that rather than choose her own, she has always taken what Kumud chooses - and this is how Guniyal justifies kusums love for Saras - ridiculous to the utmost

This dialogue deserves a hall of shame entry


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