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Posted: 11 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: Arshics

Smrth, along with an official divorce from the source, it has disconnected from the other parallel too - mzzb

I still haven't completed the watch am at epi 13, but Saba in suffering seems to have become almost saintly, she is not the victim because she seems to have dissociated herself with her physical pain, and seems to exist at a spiritual level now

She has become more loving and forgiving. And seems to be one with Allah.

And thus a winner

Kumud on the other hand seems to have turned vicious, demanding, vindictive and chooses to feel herself a victim of fate, and wants to drag down everyone else with her , in misery



wonderful observation arshi...and there is a dignity brought to their love despite all the suffering..

that's why MZZB is a class apart...

Though our bungling writers tried almost the same trigger scenario...they dont have the level to uplift the story as MZZB did...and we see a shrewish Ms Sundari flip-flopping her position, logic and even her love from one minute to the next...




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Posted: 11 years ago
#62
Its hard to not hate Kumud these days.. Away from Saras, she cries for him, curses her fate, tortures herself physically because she can not bear his absence in her life. In front of Saras, she will put up a stone face and command him to go back to Kusum. Her blasting on Saras made no sense whatsoever and I was glad Saras shouted back at one point. But I wanted him to give it back to her in double dose. How the hell can she ask him about who gave him the right to decide for others when she had done precisely that. The only difference was Saras did the right thing without consulting her and she did the wrong thing by emotionally blackmailing him. I wish Saras had explained the whole scenario to Danny before sending him to Kusum. Now there will be misunderstandings galore. Kusum will hate Kumud, Kumud will hate Saras, Danny will hate Kusum and Saras..aaarghhh *pulls hair*

The whole Desai family needs to consult a psychiatrist ASAP!!! Not one soul is normal in that house. Desai sisters are leading the pack..one is on a failed suicide attempt spree and the other one has a multiple personality disorder, classical bipolar case.. I might punch my LT one of these days because of them.. So Kusum while talking to Saras' photo says '' dil ka rishta na sahi, shadi ka rishta imandari se nibhaye '' Since when has shadi ka rishta been fulfilled without having one's heart n soul in it? So she is ok if Saras acknowledges her as his wife publicly, she gets to perform KC, suhagraat etc etc etc, even if he doesn't do ANY of that dil se.. !!! Is this girl for REAL or on drugs? The first question she asks when Danny reveals himself ad the dulha is if Kumud knows about this!!!! May I ask why? Shouldn't she be asking about Saras? Oh wait! she doesn't want people including Danny to know that her ''could be'' marriage with Saras did not happen as a quick fix solution to her broken rishta but because she blackmailed and brainwashed her sister into believing that she is meant to be with Saras and she should deal with Pramad as along as he lives and then she can lead the life of a widow..who cares! thats her kismat 😃 and Miss Ex Tez Dhar , thinks her sister's life is ruined because she married Danny !!! 😡 Really now! Fact is that its just the other way round.. Danny does NOT deserve that psychopath. So now she will hiss at Saras like a nagin because the guy saved her from privately torturing herself and crying her eyes and lungs out like Devdas..!!! Overwhelming gratitude I must say.. RUN SARAS RUNNN !!! RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN AND TAKE DANNY BOY ALONG.. PLZ! 😭
Edited by vaishali-AR - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#63
The most consistent in Desais is Badi Kaki. Her intentions are known and havent changed. But very consistent. Not confused and two-faced.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#64
so was my decision to stop watching the show a month ago right then?? 🤔
I somehow ended up watching yesterday and todays episode...I dont want to say much just that yet again SP in their hunger for TRPs have ruined the show and characters till no end...I feel sorry only for fans like us who are always made to believe in the show and story and one fine day everything is taken away from us...even the characters assassination is beneath what you could have ever imagined...I loathe Kusum for life and I dont know what I feel for Kumud anymore..Saras - I just want to hug him 😭
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Posted: 11 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: hotdogg



wonderful observation arshi...and there is a dignity brought to their love despite all the suffering..

that's why MZZB is a class apart...

Though our bungling writers tried almost the same trigger scenario...they dont have the level to uplift the story as MZZB did...and we see a shrewish Ms Sundari flip-flopping her position, logic and even her love from one minute to the next...





Arshi, HGG and all,

Reasons for of introducing MZZB were;
1) to compare differential treatments, though was aware that despite a common medium deciding difference is in tenure format.
2) a fascinating forum interaction (there is a gap on this count in Pak) on this classic. This illuminates facets and contexts which might have gone unnoticed at individual intake. We are hugely rewarded on this count with Ivy' priceless analysis even for five episodes that were charted. Consider the pleasure it could offer with it's cutting episodes.
3) two story has striking similarities in plot. But MZZB has much more satisfying presentation of climax, retribution and resolution. In all three it shines a classic. And actors, script, direction rise to the challenge. Saba there is integral consistency and a dependable heroine to like- so unlike here. So is Arfeen and every single co characters. This integrity makes it a worthwhile topic.

The point is, if we are able to conduce such a sincere conversations on something base insincere and mediocre like PPP, Kalika driven plots here, just consider the possibility on something as integral and holding as MZZB. It must be insightful. Besides, weekly joints at our leisure should not disengage this pat watch, sustained primarily on deserved talents of two lead actors.
Ivy has expressed wish to continue. As soon as she posts analysis on episode 6, let us complete these 20 odds gems.😊
For the people who might be interested, here is the link;


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Posted: 11 years ago
#66
Kat ...


You are soo Right that in the desire to Prolong the Show ... to keep it going onand on ... the Cvs are only interested in Senseless Twists and Turns ...
They have chosen the Lazy and easy way out ... No Intelligent Creative inputs ... No Imaginative attempts to find new ways of Story telling ... Zero Effort ...

and in this if the plot loses all sense ... the Characters are completely Dumbed down ... the leads are Butchered ... who is Bothered ??

The only Goal is to Maximise the Returns ... and the viewers may rant on till Kingdom come ...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#67
Arshii ...



I think i have the answer to why we are being subjected to Such Horrible Writing ...



Do you have any idea as to how many Shows Your and Nandy's favourite writer ie our esteemed Mr.Gautam Hegde is writing for currently ...


1. He is writing " Madhu Bala " and the upcoming Show " Rang Rasiyaa " on Colours ...

2. He is writing " Do Dil Ek Jaan ... " or something of that name on Life OK ...

3. then he is writing our Show ... which makes it a total of FOUR ...

and i am sure there are one or two more Shows whose names i do not remember off hand...


So GH has given a whole new meaning to the term " Muti-Tasking " ...

when a writer is simultaneously writing for 4-5 Shows is it any wonder , the heroine of one Show shall be indistinguishable from the others ... is it possible to remember all their original Character traits and personalities ...to maintain theIr INDIVIDUALITY ...

With the kind of fare being dished out ... i think we should just be grateful that atleast we get to hear the names Saras and Kumud ...

I would not be too surprised if some day we find our Kumud turning into a Movie Heroine... 😛


But on a serious note , one wonders as to why the Story writing was given to GH when his hands are already so full ... in fact his plate seems to be positively Spilling over with Shows ...

So where was the sense to ask him to write for this one too ... 😕
Edited by twila - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#68
Twila,

Thats really strange because when SP was on the point of breaking up wth SLB, we had all sorts of feeds saying SLB is too busy with Ramleela,

doesnt give time to SC, hardly comes here

Whereas SLB at his level did not need to directly get involved in day to day shooting and scripting, he just had to lend his vision to it

Yet now, they have a writer who gives only 25% of his effort to a show, even though the writer is intergral to every episode


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Posted: 11 years ago
#69
completely agree. kumud like typical telly heroine has nothing better to do then blame the poor hero for her own selfish sacrifice gone wrong.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#70

Originally posted by: twila

Guys ...



Can somebody tell me what is it that our " Idiot-Sundari " thinks is so Extraordinary and Special about that PPP ... Why that almost MURDERER...Almost KILLER ... almost Rapist ...Certified Kidnapper ...Wife Beater ... Torturer etc.etc. is NOT BEING SENT TO Jail ?? ... 😡

I get it that she decided not to seek Divorce ... but by which Law has it been decided that a Criminal need not be Punished for his numerous Crimes ... shall not be sent to Jail ...


I have racked my little brain no end , but unfortunately can not seem to remember even one Redeeming feature of that PPP ...
The same Idiot Sundari who does not miss a single opportunity to Scream and Rant at Saras ... has ordered him to lead a life worse than Death ... has not Cared for the life of Danny ...and has Tortured and almost Killed Saras so many times with her Callous behaviour... is always overflowing with the Milk of Kindness for that Evil Monstrous PPP ... WHY ??


Not only is there no attempt to Punish him for his numerous Crimes ... but instead he is being treated as a Revered Pati Parmeshwar ... Freeloader Guest of the VC haveli ... is being lavished with TLC ...and of course now shall be taken all the way to the USA by our Pativrata Idiot -Sundari for treatment ...


and meanwhile she shall conveniently overlook the fact that the Treatment has been arranged by whom ... by that " Biggest Dhokebaaz " Saras... that " Shraap " on the Desaaiis , Saras... but when the same Dhikebaaz shall be bearing all the Cost for the US trip for the Pati- Patni ... then all his DHOKHA shall be very conveniently Forgotten ...


What is soo Special about that Vile , Evil PPP that he can not only say and do the most Offensive things and Acts ( like today's Mangalsutra Stunt ) 😡... but our Idiot-Sundari shall not only not even raise her voice ...but shall in fact proceed to fulfill all his Wishes and Demands ...all his requirements ... which are to be Complied with as the Supreme Duty of her whole Existence ...


and in the process of Doing of his SEWA ... and fulfillment of his Wishes ... our Mahaan - PatiVrataa Idiot Sundari shall also not bother about Defying the Orders of her own Dearest Father whom supposedly she Loves the most ... ??


Of course in this whole Equation , i am not even trying to take the name of Saras ...cause evidently ...his Feelings ...his Wishes ... his Desires ... do not even enter the picture for her ... they do not matter to her at all ... in fact do not even enter the mind of our Sundari ... have never mattered ... and never shall in the future too ...

while she Expects him to lay down his very life for her ... without any questions ... without any Complaints ...


Can somebody tell me what kind of Weed or Grass or whatever else , the Story Writers are Smoking ... cause obviously i need to Smoke the same to get an answer to this Mystery which has been Agitating me and troubling me for the last many weeks ...


Shall be grateful for any help in this regard ... 😊



Twilaji, kitane tadap se aapne ye post likha hai.. even Sudha, Kat have made few heartfelt post posts today..

These posts convey the passion you have for the show, your anguish and frustration with the current track, and your longing to see SaMud.

But whatever we convey, feel, and discuss on this forum.. is it having any effect on any of the concerned person? or is it simply falling on the deaf ears, what is the use of boiling our blood, scratching our heads, finding tiny traces of logic in the episode, looking for that little consistency in such obviously wayward characters?

do you know, the show is in this form for few months now.. and never once have we seen any sign of recovery, any attempt by the team to get it back on the earlier track.

so let's face it. There is a HUGE gap between our expectations from the show and CVs intentions or their planning of the future tracks.

We continue to expect the show to be unique, not to follow completely illogical TRP twists and turns. But CVs have realised that their 80% audience is TRP aunties. and they have focused their efforts largely on pleasing them.

Now there is just one thing in common between us and CVs- final goal of uniting SaMud.

Our destination is same but the path CVs have charted out is very very different than what each of us expect.

And we all know CVs have the ultimate and direct effect on the actual product. So we have only two options in our control-

I) make peace with ourselves, reset our expectations and face what comes up everyday at 7:30 coz we know SaMud will be together always. We discuss, debate, argue but don't expect anything from CVs OR

II) call it quits like many of us have already done.

I know whatever i have written here, all of us know it already. But still putting it out in open because, as we say, ranting is very relaxing these days 😊

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