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Posted: 11 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Arshics


Haila, yeh kaisa apshakun ho gaya😕




Arshiii ...



What Apshagun ... When Love is as True and Beautiful as SAMUD Love , there can not be any Apshagun ... ( Cheesy ...i know ...but that is theway i feel for them ) 😆

No " Apshagun "... just a Typo ... to be simply corrected ... just as it is going to happen in the show too ... 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: hotdogg

Arshi-

Lovely CB...as usual... much much better than the epi...

Watching epis is now becoming a Ho-hum affair for me now...feel that one day will just chuck it all...main reason is because I know TRP logic will eventually triumph in the end...

SP should thank you...I see an epi nowadays purely basis your CB...

So the CVs tried to revisit 2 scenes (Blast from the Past)...but are leaving TRP toxic markers..

1) The Tumhare Saath Ghar Jaana Hai...A scene similar to the Kusum Birthday scene...which conveyed the same feelings of both and which KICKED OFF the process of both letting thier guard down for the first time and realising that they actually like each other..

...But now dusted off...and closed with Saras trying to back off...😭

2) The Chunni in Nail...Again a scene similar to the first time Kumud goes to request Saras not to leave (After the fire)...And Saras freeing her Chunni...

... But now the chunni gets torn...Is this a marker?...😕

3) Saras... I can understand his love for Kumud and his aim to avoid controversy by being seen in close physical contact with Kumud in public...

... But why oh why does he not express what he feels in private?...Kumud is free of Pramad reform ideals...Has forgiven him...And is making attempts to reconnect...

... Yeh logic kuch samaj nahin aati?...This is definitely a marker ...Both these dobas will not express themselves...and kusum missile will come from nowhere and blast them badly...

... I have been desperately waiting for an explicit and clear expression of love by either or both...But that is not forthcoming... 😭

AND WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THIS DOBA???
What Log Kya Kahenge shit logic...Kumud is divorced now remember!!!!!!!!!!
Please go and tell her you love her you light-bulb...rather than all the Sorry gigs...
I just did not gett his logic...

4) Kusum...On one hand I can empathise with the process by which a person falls in love...It is mostly never in your control...So I get it...

HOWEVER...I feel that there is a Pre-Love stage...(Oh...I recollect a previous CB thread from the glory days when we had debated the entire process of how people fall in love...and what aspects are rational & what are not!!!... )

...To summarize some of my points from that conversation...
- there is a stage before you even decide you want to fall in love with the other person...
- a stage when your feelings for the other person are just becoming apparent to you & your conscious mind..
- and just before you may decide that you want to fall in love...after which the irrational & emotional side will take over...
- WHEN your rational mind ALWAYS makes a quick trade-off analysis...sort of like a self-check if the decision you want to desperately take (i.e. Yes. I love person x/y) is the right decision...
- This step may finish in seconds / minutes...but it is there...you consider all known and unknown factors...decide the risk is worth it...and then take the plunge by falling in love..
- This decision step was so agonisingly long for both saras & kumud in the show earlier..😛

I don't see Kusum being shown as going through that process...One fne day she's in love & Meera...now looking longingly at becoming Rukmini..

I don't like this angle at all...

- Today the CVs deliberately brought in the old scene in FB with Kusum saying I would not have said no...
- More dangerously...under the guise of confusion, I love my didi etc...Kusum has raised the ante quite a bit...She has (i) stopped mentioning its wrong (ii) was reluctant to consider marriage (iii) has started making sad faces when marriage came up...

- I expect 'social status' angle (hinted in the pre-cap) making Kumud feel more guilty ...which in turn will make Saras feel more guilty...With both trying to make amends with more self-sacrifice...😭

- I would not be surprised if TRPs rise further...that Kusum starts becoming a Grey character...Because under the current circumstances Kusum cant come out in the front and say what she feels...And except for severe extenuating circumstances (like someone getting blamed Pramad death for e.g) I also don't see Kumud sacrificing Saras to Kusum...

- Also after Pramad signing the divorce papers...Kumud mentally divorced from Pramad...Alak, BD & SD walking out...BD giving all his money to Pramaad...I believe that track is also done

So this Kusum thingie is now a major TRP trap...the CVs are going to go full-speed on this path...Alas..there seems to be no escape...🤢...

5) Net Net...I see this going the Muqqadar Ka Sikander route...all One - Way street with respect to Love...with everyone going round and round...

Family <-- Kumud <-- Saras <-- Kusum <-- Danny <-- Kumari <-- Umesh <-- Umesh's wife (put these guys here for fun but that's how ridiculous this looks now)...

.. Noticed the Danny - Kusum - Kumari exchanges...CVs are trying out this option too...Just wishin the TRPs fall...in which case they might open up the Danny - Kusum track




Hgg, after a long long time getting to read your analysis. Ya we discussed so many issues then

But today the episode drew you out to make your analytical post again

That means it was a good epi

That's settled😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
#43
Beautiful, as always Arshi!!

What is this Pramaad Sudaar nonsense in the spoilers now...That guy is a physcopath...Can CVs please not show ridiculous things...

And while I am mad with Kusum...I dont think she deserves Pramaad either...

Can Sunny please come back...we accepted a new actor for VC...Why not Sunny?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: hotdogg



Nandy-
I can help you a little..

Check out this VM I made a long time ago...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q56BFoAfqCk

Back story:
This is from the days I was mesmerized by SC...(confession I hardly ever see Hindi shows...and yet I was getting pulled into this magical realm created by SLB)... I had a critical client negotiation coming up the next day and I was in the middle of a all-nighter preparing the data / nego strategy...

..and somewhere around mid-night I had said ..Screw It...and prepared this HD VM...downloading epis...editing...and setting this to the haunting Mera Mann cover female version of Nautanki Saala...Sung by Tulsi Kumar...the daughter of Gulshan Kumar of T-series fame...I am still amazed how few people know about this version...what lilt in the voice!...much much better than the male cover version...

So yeah...this was all SLB's doing...

p.s. negotiation went of very well too... I was in a state of bliss then...Did not care ...I had achieved something the previous night through the VM...koi multi-million dollar contract kya choti baat thi...

...which the opposing person mistook as confidence...and blinked first...😉





Hgg Bhaii ...




Aaahh ... What Memories ... The VM is Absolutely LOVELY !! 👏


Those were the days ... Siigghh...


Imagine a show plunging one into what Madness ... So glad that in the end it all worked out fine for you ...😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
#45
aaj ka epi mast tha, but main sirf Gauti ko dekh rahi thi...he was super adorable with SRRYO and then Shades mein Gauti
and what a beautiful relationship Saras-Kumud share, love how CVs are not directly jumping into romance and building it all up...this is how it is supposed be suble and real !!

Yeh kusu,k ke baare mein I have no comments...ek taraf bahut gussa aata hain and on the other hand I feel really bad for her...

pata nahi yeh CVs kya turns lenge as far as Samud union is concerned, ab toh Danny-Kusum bhi possibility lag rahi hain 😕

oh dear lord, where is sunny?? sab perfect ho jaata!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: kaadal

Arshi beautiful CB, just loved your writing. You have tempted me again, will check out today's episode as well :) But looks like Kusum is indeed the dark cloud over Samud now, will she pass over or tear these two apart we have to see. I think Kusum marrying Saras even if Kumud agrees would never be digestible to anyone. Her character would be treacherous than Guman unless she wants to turn into those obsessive lover who can't live without her love. Sometimes I really hope they wind this up soon with Samud when the going is good, why drag unnecessary tracks just to raise TRP's. Now seeing Samuds all I can remember is here we go round the mulberry bush...


Kaadal, this is so wrong and the cvs messed up big time with kusum track. I don't know why, what changed but they messed up.

Kusum was sent to BD house for this very reason - Saras kusum track.

The timing was right, pramaad sudhar was on the cards, Kumud was wanting to move on, Saras had agreed to be her support and put his own feelings aside.

At this point, a pramaad who was turning good, and Kumud who was seemingly moving on in life, and a Saras who clearly had no future with Kumud but displayed true love in the dignified manner in which he stepped aside and helped Kumud and pramaad - every reason for Kusum to fall for Saras .

Had the good pramaad lasted for a longer time, and kusum then become a Meera to Kanha Saras, we all would have accepted and maybe even liked kusum falling for Saras .

Then there was no indication when Saras had no future with Kumud, indications from kusum surfaced whenever Saras and Kumud's love for each other surfaced - that's what make this wrong.

That's where I feel CVs messed up this track, now it's just wrong.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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@ Hgg,
Thanks again for the brilliant when and how do we fall in love ...

I agree with you, even if not consciously, but there is conscious rational tipping point before we allow ourselves to 'fall' uncontrollably as has happened with kusum .

It's in the timing of that the cvs have gone wrong.

If Kusum had been shown clearly to falling for Saras in BD house during the stage when Kumud's own feelings for Saras were in doubt, it wouldn't have felt so wrong.

The only point in time when kusums love for Saras would have made sense was at the point when Kumud was married and keen to move on.

Had the tipping point come then we would have got great episodes - Kumud misinformed about pramaad and happy in her bubble, Saras's stepping back and letting Kumud's happiness be most important . Kusum at this point falling for Saras would have been great.

Then her meera avatar of today would have made sense.

But I wonder why then cvs resorted to kalika and her chura and not kusum and her growing love for Saras.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Saw the episode.

Kusum ka kya kahein. I used to hold my rants on that character. Now not anymore. She is like deewani or what. iss ki tulnaa mein kumud bechaari lagti hai.
Now tell me from which angle does she falling for Saras is ok? Just because Saras is not married to Kumud? She used all the words there are for him - jeejaji, saras, sarasbhai, wo, unhe.
Saras Kumud scene was interspersed with Kusum saga first with Guniyal and then with Danny. Had to bear it.
Whats with Danny? Who is warming up to whom.
Sarad and Kumud scene was so cute. Like hgg said, they dropped guard again today in a long time. and were quite conscious about it. Saras's joy at Kumud's reaction at school was awesome to see.
Have a question(call me tubelight) - Kumud saying 'mai bhi kuch nahin kar sakti' was that wrt. to she having a right to get angry or about not being able to stop Saras from worrying about her. I think the first one but want to confirm.
Regarding Saras stepping back, I think his mistake is weighing heavily on his mind. Each situation that springs up directly reminds him of his mistake. Also, he has to be more cautious this time for Kumud so that no one says anything. Its totally genuine.
Hgg ji,
you were asking what was stopping Saras from confessing in private. I say what is there to confess. Its so obvious to Kumud. Every sentence he says tells Kumud that he loves her. Like on monday's epi, he said that if something happens to her he cant take it. Saras is where he was wrt. Kumud. It was Kumud who tried to move on but couldnt and is coming back to him. Clearly.
There is only one thing needed from Saras. That plunge. But, its not so easy. But still I would like to see that coming from him more than anything else. Making her his wife in front of everyone and making a clear statement against social norms.
Regarding Pramad, I just want his episode to close soon.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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You are so right Santhi, falling for your sisters man is never right.
Even if it's after they break up, it's in some sense always unethical

Chudail bhi 7 ghar chor ke war karti hai, toh yeh toh apne hi ghar main ...

( even a witch finds her victims at least 7 houses away )

But if at all in this show, there was point where it made any sense

It was at the happily married Kumud stage

Never before and certainly not now - now it's just so so wrong.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pasumarthisa

Saw the episode.

Kusum ka kya kahein. I used to hold my rants on that character. Now not anymore. She is like deewani or what. iss ki tulnaa mein kumud bechaari lagti hai.
Now tell me from which angle does she falling for Saras is ok? Just because Saras is not married to Kumud? She used all the words there are for him - jeejaji, saras, sarasbhai, wo, unhe.
Saras Kumud scene was interspersed with Kusum saga first with Guniyal and then with Danny. Had to bear it.
Whats with Danny? Who is warming up to whom.
Sarad and Kumud scene was so cute. Like hgg said, they dropped guard again today in a long time. and were quite conscious about it. Saras's joy at Kumud's reaction at school was awesome to see.
Have a question(call me tubelight) - Kumud saying 'mai bhi kuch nahin kar sakti' was that wrt. to she having a right to get angry or about not being able to stop Saras from worrying about her. I think the first one but want to confirm.

it was not about not having a right, but about not being able to stay angry with him and also about knowing that he will worry about her always - an acknowledgement of his feelings for her
Regarding Saras stepping back, I think his mistake is weighing heavily on his mind. Each situation that springs up directly reminds him of his mistake. Also, he has to be more cautious this time for Kumud so that no one says anything. Its totally genuine.
Hgg ji,
you were asking what was stopping Saras from confessing in private. I say what is there to confess. Its so obvious to Kumud. Every sentence he says tells Kumud that he loves her. Like on monday's epi, he said that if something happens to her he cant take it. Saras is where he was wrt. Kumud. It was Kumud who tried to move on but couldnt and is coming back to him. Clearly.
There is only one thing needed from Saras. That plunge. But, its not so easy. But still I would like to see that coming from him more than anything else. Making her his wife in front of everyone and making a clear statement against social norms.

beautifully said 👏
Regarding Pramad, I just want his episode to close soon.

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