Kalika- is she really that bad? Post-pg.1 & discussion pg. 38

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Posted: 12 years ago

#31

Originally posted by: rosame

> I hate when she compared Saras to Pramad. This was too much for me, she is unable to spot the difference between Saras and Pramad. Come on. The writer is working too hard to improvise Kumud's image and is failing big time.

Sisters not allowed to visit her sasural, again they are taking us back to some crazy time.
The writer is confused, and is confusing the viewers as well.

Hello, writer
Your adaptation is having quite a few flaws, these days.

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> Good point here . How can Kumud compare Pramad with Saras ? Writers are forgetting Saras and Kumud are soul mates . When Saras explained his reasons for refusing the marriage, I thought Kumud understood the situation what Saras has gone through (Saras has always understood Kumud), but no she still continues with her blame game and on top of that compares her love with a rogue. Yes, writer are " working too hard to improvise Kumud's image " that they are forgetting important part i.e. ROMANCE.

Agree, the story is at a critical point and it is not being treated well. I also I was thinking, in this show Kumud is acting so brave and wanting to fix her abusive husband. However, in real life women do not have a Saras in their house to help them around and save them. So even if she succeeds, I cannot give her credit In real life she would be dead on the very second day ( pillar falling).

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We hear rumors of the show going off air.

Now I think may be the channel is not happy with the storyline, domestic violence, Saras Kumud wedding called off, Kumud wanting to save her marriage ( with the help of Saras). Real life women do not have a Saras in their life staying at their home to save them. If Saras was not around she would be dead the very next day (pillar falling).Saras being around is big support for Kumud and she can face challenges.

May be SLB is just doing what he wants and not listening to the channel. The channel does interfere because they have to generate money to run their channel. It is a big business.

Hope it is a rumor, they fix the story flaws sooner and move on.

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>>>It's weird, watching the current track, I think both Pramad and Kumud deserve each other. Could not believe Kumud compared Saras to Pramad.

VC family cheated BD family- the BD family was not aware to what extent their daughter-in -law was involved with Saras, ( forget about PMS etc). Saras continues to live in the same house and poor BD family does not know who Navinchandra is. They continue to be cheated.

BD family cheated VC family- they got their rich and useless son married to this educated woman. They promote their own daughter professionally ( though she also lives in this small town), and get a well educated daughter-in- law to make their son a human and hand over all the responsibilities at home. Really smart BD family.

Neither family thought, there was something fishy about this last minute wedding. Both will pay a price for it. They deserve each other.

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Posted: 12 years ago

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About the VC and BD families..

It's true that they are cheating each other.. and it's also true that they are gonna pay price.. In future though..!

We can forget about all THAT things that went btw Saras and Kumud.. But some day they will come out in front of BD's.. All we come to knoe abt everything..! Then what.?? We should wait and see is my opinion..!

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Originally posted by: -Pro-
About the VC and BD families..

It's true that they are cheating each other.. and it's also true that they are gonna pay price.. In future though..!

We can forget about all THAT things that went btw Saras and Kumud.. But some day they will come out in front of BD's.. All we come to knoe abt everything..! Then what.?? We should wait and see is my opinion..!

>>Agree, when the BD family will know the reality of their dear daughter-in-law and Navichandra will be a day to watch. Really looking forward to it. Wonder what her MIL will have to say.

Pramad will say "no wonder you (kumud) did not leave this home, in spite of I abusing you so much, because Navinchandra was here". Here Pramad has a right point to make, because she is cheating the BD family big time.

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Based on Kumud and SIL conversation, it seems kumud's sacrifice will not be really appreciated. She clearly mentioned that the two families did not question each other, so kind of share the blame for the current situation. Well said.

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Good post and as I was invited to share my 2 cents.

I have not read past 5 pages due to eye issues...Forgive me 😳

Both Dharmadhikaris and Desais are weired and first family being totally dysfunctional.

What bothers me abt Kumud is if she was shown to be so strong and no nonsense kind a woman why is she putting up with accepting Pramad's behavior..

Personally I do not condone nor condemn Pramad...He is not fully responsible for his behavior...May be 15% him but 85% belongs to rest of the dharmadhikaris who are busy playing politicians...Desh ki bhalai...But never worried abt their own family. Got their son married forcefully to a girl and expect her to do the reforming? Bhai Kyon?

Desais in haste got their daughter married to a guy who they knew nothing abt. Never thought why would a boy's family accept their daughter who was to be married to someone else just 24 hrs before? Something has to be there abt her and him...Both families should have thought abt that..

Saras should be one to understand Pramad's plight...He really believes that BD loves him like a son as BD gives him so much importance and disrespects son of the family in front of aira gaira and his wife every chance he gets..Saras needs to remember he can NEVER be Dharmadhikari's son...Like son and being one there is a vast difference.

If Kumud wants to make the marriage work than she needs to stop lying, deal with reality and work on it in open.

I am not one of those who thinks Saras and Kumud should get together..but there is physical, verbal and substance abuse in this household and marriage...Kumud needs to face the music.

Saras DID NOT Betray her twice...Girl get with the program..He only betrayed you once which was the night b4 the wedding when he broke it off..

Why should Saras pay for his and her mistakes both? He is taking responsibility for his own mistake...She should take responsibility for her own stupid decision of marrying a guy in so much haste. Kumud is in love with her own Ego, family izzat, reputation and now ILs izzat & reputation too.😲 But keep blaming Saras and punishing him won't make it any easier girl 😳

I blame Desais for putting that proposal in front of their daughter who was heartbroken, distraught and in pain. Not a right time to decide on another marriage. Dukhba was right when she told the family it was wrong for them to marry her off so quickly without chking on her husband.

This is 2013 and they need to show something realistic..What they have been showing past few days post kumud;s marriage is Typical indian serial type..Saras wanting to make sure Kumud-Pramad marriage works out and they are happy...Man do they have any idea what sort of Abuse this family have/???

Saras should stay the hell away from Dharmadhikari home, Kumud should be honest and Q dharmadhikaris why they forced their son into marrying when he refused to. this way Pramad cant even blackmail her..SHe needs to tell the truth to all..

SLB Why not show real life issues-situation, problems and solutions, instead showing Cockamime type storyline as what we have been witnessing. Domestic violence, ILs marrying their bigde huve son to someone's daughter and expect her to reform is way too much, women taking on that responsibility which is not their problem but failure on ILs part. Why is this condoned and watched by us all?

WHy? Because hopeless romantics want to see the hero saving the girl and than getting united. 😳

Don't mean to hurt any fan of any characters or the show..My honest opinion period.

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: Dabulls23
Good post and as I was invited to share my 2 cents.
>>>Thank you for your detailed response. 👏

I have not read past 5 pages due to eye issues...Forgive me 😳
>>>Not a prob, dear. I understand, there us just too much info.

Both Dharmadhikaris and Desais are weired and first family being totally dysfunctional.
>>>> they are, and will realize only now. Each family thought they were smarter than the other.

What bothers me abt Kumud is if she was shown to be so strong and no nonsense kind a woman why is she putting up with accepting Pramad's behavior.
>>>>> The makers have confused the viewers by showing this contrasting personality of Kumud in the same show. In my opinion, her image has been damaged and now they are making attempts to correct it. However, its too late.

Personally I do not condone nor condemn Pramad...He is not fully responsible for his behavior...May be 15% him but 85% belongs to rest of the dharmadhikaris who are busy playing politicians...Desh ki bhalai...But never worried abt their own family. Got their son married forcefully to a girl and expect her to do the reforming? Bhai Kyon?
>>>>>> This show is in 2013, and here they got the adaptation all wrong. No guy will get married, without meeting the computer wali girl. If Yes, then there is some problem and we all get to see that now.

Desais in haste got their daughter married to a guy who they knew nothing abt. Never thought why would a boy's family accept their daughter who was to be married to someone else just 24 hrs before? Something has to be there abt her and him...Both families should have thought abt that..
>>>> This seems a bit unrealistic, for the current times. Such marriages occur, only if the two families have something to hide. I wonder, if such marriage that are based on dishonesty last, and if they do then God bless the couple.

Saras should be one to understand Pramad's plight...He really believes that BD loves him like a son as BD gives him so much importance and disrespects son of the family in front of aira gaira and his wife every chance he gets..Saras needs to remember he can NEVER be Dharmadhikari's son...Like son and being one there is a vast difference.
>>>>>BD is using Saras to get back at his son, and to vent his frustration. Unfortunately, Saras is not able to see that because he is the one seeking some fatherly love and affection from BD as well.

If Kumud wants to make the marriage work than she needs to stop lying, deal with reality and work on it in open.
>>>> I am not able to put up with her dishonesty. Well today, her dishonesty was out there for the entire family to see.

I am not one of those who thinks Saras and Kumud should get together..but there is physical, verbal and substance abuse in this household and marriage...Kumud needs to face the music.
Saras DID NOT Betray her twice...Girl get with the program..He only betrayed you once which was the night b4 the wedding when he broke it off..
>>>Agree, earlier it was one sided. Actually, her ego was hurt after the rejection and deep down she wanted him back. I think to pacify her ego. Every time Guman warned her, she took it up as a challenge..

Why should Saras pay for his and her mistakes both? He is taking responsibility for his own mistake...She should take responsibility for her own stupid decision of marrying a guy in so much haste. Kumud is in love with her own Ego, family izzat, reputation and now ILs izzat & reputation too.😲 But keep blaming Saras and punishing him won't make it any easier girl 😳
>>>>>Basically, Saras is a nice guy and so he is the one taking all the blame.

I blame Desais for putting that proposal in front of their daughter who was heartbroken, distraught and in pain. Not a right time to decide on another marriage. Dukhba was right when she told the family it was wrong for them to marry her off so quickly without chking on her husband.
>>>>>but the Desai's and Kumud blame Saras for their wrong doing.

This is 2013 and they need to show something realistic..What they have been showing past few days post kumud;s marriage is Typical indian serial type..Saras wanting to make sure Kumud-Pramad marriage works out and they are happy...Man do they have any idea what sort of Abuse this family have/???
>>>>>we are putting up with a lot of nonsense for TRPs.

Saras should stay the hell away from Dharmadhikari home, Kumud should be honest and Q dharmadhikaris why they forced their son into marrying when he refused to. this way Pramad cant even blackmail her..SHe needs to tell the truth to all..
>>>>>>she needs to be honest with her own family first.

SLB Why not show real life issues-situation, problems and solutions, instead showing Cockamime type storyline as what we have been witnessing. Domestic violence, ILs marrying their bigde huve son to someone's daughter and expect her to reform is way too much, women taking on that responsibility which is not their problem but failure on ILs part. Why is this condoned and watched by us all?
>>>> for me two reasons: Gautam Rode acting, and how the makers are going to adapt the domestic violence part of the novel. Unfortunately, it seems nothing has really changed even after nearly 125 yrs.
However, I spotted some changes in the life of women, and that promoted me to write a post- http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3700329

WHy? Because hopeless romantics want to see the hero saving the girl and than getting united. 😳
Don't mean to hurt any fan of any characters or the show..My honest opinion period.

Finally, Thank you again for your response.Luved reading your opinion and I hope I managed to respond to most of your thoughts.
My response - Blue font ( normal ).

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Posted: 12 years ago

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I was very happy to read your post coz you raised valid points which were playing in my mind.

I agree with you fully that Saras betrayed her ONLY ONCE . Saras had refused to get married ...he did not refuse Kumud but the marriage as an institution . Kumud took it personally and challenged him to come over and refuse the proposal. But they fell in love.That cannot be called betrayal .

Another point is Kumud hides the truth or has habit of pushing facts under the carpet. When Guman told many a times that she will make sure this marriage does not happen . Why did she not tell her Bapu or Badi Ma ? Guman's threats were serious and could not have been taken lightly. But as you mentioned she took it up as a challenge .

Just like now, she has taken a challenge to reform Pramad and make her marriage work.

In her defiance, she makes decisions and when they go wrong she blames Saras.

>>>>> " Why should Saras pay for his and her mistakes both? " .

You are right here . Why she is blaming Saras for the challenges she has taken ? Why can't she ask and blame her Bapu too for taking hasty decision of her marriage ? But Kumud, ignores her Bapu's mistake . Why ? ...coz she loves him .

This makes me think that does she really loves Saras ? If yes , then why she is not even willing to give a thought to understand and believe Saras ? Knowing the full truth by now and hope she has connected Guman's warning with it too . But no Kumud loves to blame and cry .

Madam...Love is understanding one another and not blaming .

>>>> " Basically, Saras is a nice guy and so he is the one taking all the blame. "

😊😊😊

>>>>>Why is this condoned and watched by us all? .

My reply to that is Gautam Rode's expressions and his brilliant acting as Saras.😊