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Posted: 12 years ago
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Arshi, yes you described it so well "Dard ka Rishta"...but I am so mad at Kumud.

Today's highlight was Saras and only Saras. I just loved him today. He will not walk away from Kumud's problem. He knows she is living in hell and will live like that. He knows his one mistake costs them huge. Kumud has to pay for that by living with Pramad and Pramad's torture. Saras has to pay for that by seeing Kumud in hell. He keeps hurting himself..but Kumud didn't melt. Uf. GR emoted those painful expressions so well..."Kumus's kasam, hurt seeing Kumud's blood, burning his own hand". GR, today was yours.

Isn't CVs repeating previous events: Saras asking for forgiveness (previous event too), Saras challenging "tum kal shaam tak sab ko Pramad.." (similar to Kite one), Kumud asking Saras to leave...but doesn't want him to leave...events are similar. Meaning is similar but substance is different now.

Kumud, I am very mad at you today. Why are you quiet and not telling everyone about Pramad? Why are you being like "abla nari". This relates how some married women are living their life in today era. Trying to save their husband honor...seriously...Kumud you disappointed me today. Where is our Kumud who would take stand for right and fought for all wrong? You pretend strong infront of Saras and others...then you cry for Saras when you are alone.

Kusum-LC-Gun: understand you pain, understand why can't you forgive Saras...Kusum, you are right...if Saras fought with LN-Guman...what has that to do with his love. Infact, if you are hurt, first thing you do is come running to your love seeking for some peace...but here Saras broken the marriage. Kumud your anger is totally justified...but when you will come to know about Pramad...it will kill you more. Don't close your eyes and think everything is fine at kumud's house. Loved your shernie attitude today.

Sunny, like a true friend...you are trying to make everyone understand Saras's POV. But buddy, accept Saars made a mess. Just by saying Saras still loves Kumud, is not going to heal these deep wounds. Bring Guman's true color in front of LN, go find Saras, call Danny. It is time to take actions.

BD and family, what is wrong with you guys...until yesterday, Kumud had no pallu on her head...and today she is covering her face...no one asked what is a problem. Did you guys even thought how Kumud will manage with drunk Pramad? Yes BD you ruined Kumud's life for the sake of your son.

Over all:7/10

GR as Saras was :10/10, Bang ON. Loved him today.

Jenny as Kumud: 0/10, for being so abla nari...disappointed

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Posted: 12 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: arshicritic

To hey CV janon!

Saras ke saath iska bhi ek madhur milan karwa do

Kumud aur Saras ka karva chauth kiya tha

In dono ka raksha bandhan karwa do


Dekhna hi hai, miss nahi kar sakte aaj !



🤣 🤣

Arshi, I lubs you.

Aaj toh 'aapke charan kahan hain' se kaam nahi chalega! Today I have to do saashtang, dandvath pranaam!!

Too good.


Your post and episode too. BBL

Edited by Infofan - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: vaishali-AR

''Jitna socha tha, dard usse kahin gehra hai'' - Saras. Today he got the real picture- heartbreaking..like he said zindagi bikhar gayi hai.. he saw the shattered pieces today.. what a brilliant scene. the blood from her forehead falling on his hand..stunned Saras realizing Kumud is hurt runs to her... O piyaa seemed like panic call, straight from the gut..and then the bare truth right in front of his eyes..he must have died a thousand deaths then and there..standing in shock at the door looking at her state! slouched shoulders, head hanging down, in tears and blood... it hit him like a stab right at the centre of his heart.. this is Kumud now.. the facade off.. broken, bruised and defeated at the hands of fate.. she sees him, gets alerted immediately brushes off her wound , holds back her crutches of anger and pride and gets back on her feet.. You gotta love Gautam and Jennifer in that scene.. his eyes are fixed on her tears and blood as she verbally assaults him, accuses and condemns him.. absolutely loved the choice of words for the dialogues..


Yes vaishali, Saras died 1000 times seeing Kumud in that state...he is facing reality now, he understands the demage being done. I just loved him today...for showing pain, concern, helplessness, anger, challenge. Since GR is sick...I think that is refelcting evry well in these scenes as being totally broken down.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Aarshi,
A small q. What is the locus standi?
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Posted: 12 years ago
#25
arshi-

Some early reactions:
1) nice episode and nice CB. Loved the song you selected.

2) We are finally moving forward and leaving the treadmill (I hope).

3) Loved the fact that all the CB theories neatly fitted together:

A)
Hgg: Alpha-Beta. Kumud forced to remain a beta(yet). But Saras finally becoming more alpha now because there is no other option (refer Ivy section below).

B)
Smrth & Ivy: The color Red will define & bind them. Loved the connect through the blood shown today.

C) Ivy - (i) See-Saw & sandbags. Today it was the turn of saras to shine.
(ii) Saras needs enlightenment first on how bad the situation is for kumud. ONLY then will
he stop thinking of his apology (what kumud can do for him) and start thinking of what he can do for kumud. This will be his redemption. To do this he will have to become an alpha

D) Adiani - (i) Once A & C come into play, we will see the evolution of saras and the journey will really begin.
(ii) The nuance is not in 'pure pyar kiya' (which is a given) but in the 'pyar nibhana' part.
(I was amazed that Kusum's dialogue said exactly the same words!).

We seem to be piecing this together in advance pretty well. 👍🏼

4) Also, I would like to bookmark this epi as 'The Rise of Kusum'.
Today was the first time she ever said more a couple of her stock lines like 'lagi shart'.

I was struck by the similarity!!
Replace kusum / sunny with kumud / saras and what she said would have been EXACTLY the same words / sentiment Kumud would have expressed to saras had she been on talking terms with him.

Did the CVs use this scene to REITERATE why it is such a big deal for kumud and why kumud is not on talking terms / her rationale? Another of Ivy's sandbags for kumud? Making the point again for kumud bashers to 'get'?

So if a kusum track is starting, this epi will be the start point.

5) Loved the 'Tumhe Meri Kasam' scene.
These 3 words spoke volumes.
Kumud will consciously keep on repeating that its all over because saras has broken the relationship and her heart. Ergo now there's nothing between them and saras should stay out of her life.
And then what does do? She binds him to her wish through her kasam...with has as its implicit foundation his love and caring for her...Ergo nothing's changed between them.
Her instinctive response highlights her true feelings which her conscious mind tries so hard to erase.

6) Also liked the matching blue outfits for both.


Edited by hotdogg - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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arshiji beautiful post and beautiful episode.
samud - dard ka rishtha.beautifully portrayed by jenam👏
liked the scene drop of blood falling on his hand.
aaj kusum ko kuch jyada dialogues hai. she is the one who said what if shivji ne shortcut mara and kumud ko pati mile par payaar nahi.😡did she know that kumud has not given right to anyone to hurt or say anything about saras?if kumud have heard she would surely get a tapad from her😊.
she raised a valid question even if saras came back and apologize to every one for calling off the wedding how can they trust him? kabhi ha kabhi na.
I want old kumud back.today in that yellow saree she looked more like gopi bahu.good to see saraswathichandra back in action.last time he won the challenge to see her face.let,s see what happens tomorrow.
Yeh kusum toh Kumud jaisi hoti jaa rahi hai

To hey CV janon!

Saras ke saath iska bhi ek madhur milan karwa do

Kumud aur Saras ka karva chauth kiya tha

In dono ka raksha bandhan karwa do
nice lines arshiji. I never took kusum seriously. she hardly had anything to do but today I really want raksha bandahan to happen.
@infofan can I join your team.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Beautiful and apt lyrics, Arshi.
Added this to to My bucket list of "things to do before I die".. Someday to make time and listen to these songs well with due respect.

Episodes are so true to the essence of the original and still able to strike every chord contemporarily. Kumud had skipped the phase of anger in original, it is brilliantly adapted the story here. Again kudos to the writers.

Fading red and bright red..brilliant.
Symbols: wonderful, amazed to discover them on the forum.

I have not figured out symbolism of camera panning on Saras's feet often and again. Anybody with an idea? Or is it just cameraman's personal fancy? Donot believe so.

Kusum phase one: kaali zubaan, mission: warn the viewers of the future story.
Kusum's phase two: mouthpiece for Kumud's standpoint.
Why is she being turned into Kumud? I've no inkling, except to appease viewers in the end for intended climax.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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lets see whta the cvs got in store
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Today's episode was a turning point in many ways.
First, Kumud let it out verbally that it is because of him that she is suffering. That is a huge thing.
Second, Saras is now fully aware of Kumud's suffering in that house. He also knows that she is behaving like a rudderless boat and aggressively defending her husband when there is no reason to. The whole family knows his character.
Third, he intends to fix it.
Loved the scene when he asks her who did this. She says kisi Saraswatichandra. That was the big picture. Its because of him. He shows guilt and remorse and fully accepts it. He knows what she means. So he rephrases the question and gets more specific. 'yeh chot kaise lagi'. For which she gives the answer by being silent.
Kumud transferred part her suffering to Saras today. Like in the haldi scene of beginning. When he hurts his palm from drawing water in the well. He asks if her hurt was more painful. And she ruthlessly applies more to tell him it did. Kumud just can't suffer in solitude. She got Saras for company. She is so real. He isn't.
Kusum mouthing those dialogues was too much to hear. Her showing of hands with all five fingers spread to stop Sunny from talking was so Kumud-like and didn't suit her. She said, 'usne dubaara bharosa thoda'. Dialogue writers were sleeping I guess while writing it. His saying no first time was breaking trust?
And the last scene was great. Like how Saras blackmailed Kumud and Pramaad and how helpless they were. Brought some comic relief to me. And then how he further acknowledged how deep her suffering is and how dilaasa itself wont work. And the intended audience got the message.
Kumud is right in trying to salvage her marriage. But, not right in covering her husband when she doesn't need to. Saras said he will rectify(ilaaaj) and looks at Pramaad. If the rectification starts, her anger will go. Let us see how Saras helps her by bursting her bubble.
Edited by pasumarthisa - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: P020167

Yes vaishali, Saras died 1000 times seeing Kumud in that state...he is facing reality now, he understands the demage being done. I just loved him today...for showing pain, concern, helplessness, anger, challenge. Since GR is sick...I think that is refelcting evry well in these scenes as being totally broken down.


Can't get enough of that scene.. Kumud's defeated body posture..the way her hands were positioned she looked handcuffed and chained with that mangalsutra.. great shot! when Kumud stops Saras the first time saying Pramad is her husband, loved GR's expression when he turns to look at her.. as if saying '' Yeah..try stop me today! '' and then the kasam..what a control she exercises on him
Edited by vaishali-AR - 12 years ago

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