Crisp Bytes SC - 4th June 13 - Page 6

Originally posted by: vaishali-AR

Saras will walk away..i know.. You mean zimmedari towards his father/family? I think the impulsive nature that prompted him to write the letter, and react out of jealousy is gonna play its part.. that time he had a chance to undo his mistake, this time it might be too late before he realizes..I have a feeling that the new character Danny , will be used by Guman to create a rift..

Originally posted by: hotdogg

Hmm ...something to ponder...

Let me take a crack at this:
- SLB despite everything is delightfully old school.
- By delightfully old school I mean his definition / characterization of what constitues a man and a woman.
- He always creates a perfect yin - yang balance and justapoxes these characters against a deep / high emotional quotient love story.
- This trait has never wavered ever in any of his films (at least the love stories, except Devdas).

- How?
1) you never see any metrosexuality or Cosmo driven man in any of his stories (except Devdas). The man will be down, desolate, screwed or out of sorts (salman, ajay, hritik, nana patekar, saras) but you never see him sit and cry about it. He will be figthing all the way till the end on what he believes in.
2) At the same time his man is never an MCP or a boor (except Devdas). In fact his man is always so confident of his own maleness that he will never be threatened by his woman and will actually treat the female as an equal, learn from her etc. This male will go to war with anyone but his woman. With her he will always be willing to let go of a lot of things (ajay)...but only because its her.
3) BUT at the end of the day he will still be a distinctly male animal. He will still have clear ideas of what he is or not, what is right and wrong, what he wants to do or not, what he will not agree to ever.

4) And his women are always overwhelmingly feminine (aishwarya, monisha, madhuri, kumud). No question about it. Maybe that's why most have a similar in look and presentation.
5) At the same time, all his women have the guts and spiritual strength of a warrior. If they believe, they will take a battle with a problem or a slight to its logical end...
5) ...EVEN if means they have to sacrifice / burn themselves down to achieve it.

- This is a highly combustible, potent and magical mix. Pure yin & yang. So alike ...yet so different. An analogy would be an eagle and a falcon.

- And it is in these characteristics are the seeds of destruction by burning each other down or a lifetime of togetherness sown.

Saras:
- despite his traumatic past, his recovery, his love for kumud will always have very clear and distinct perspective of what is right and wrong.
- For e.g. due ot his complexes, he never went boo-hoo no one loves me...just decided he won't love anyone ever. This was the wrong approach, but look the length he went along on his convictions.
- He is the male animal and has duties / obligations he has to adhere to despite what anyone (even kumud thinks).
- In his internal compass, if personal choices / relationships come in the way of his own definitation of what comprise duty and obligation, he will stick to his convictions despite what the other party feels like. For e.g. take last epi..he loves his mom (maybe), when she came in the way of her convictions, he just blew her away.
- Similarly, kumud's reaction after the event was against his understanding of love, duty and obligation. He bent only because he loved her. But in the end he still made it a point to tell her she was wrong in her assesment of him and his definiation of love / duty / right & wrong.
- that's the emphasis on 'zimmedari'

Kumud:
- despite her fierceness, independence, sureity etc. is still a female animal still.
- a warrior who has given her heart to her man.
- once she has decided to accept someone / love someone, she will travel all the way to hell and back... alone if she has to...if it helps her man / what her man or love demands.
- everything else now comes second to the demends / needs of her love.
- also if slighted / challenged by her love, she will burn herself down just to prove a point that she was right. You know...on the lines of...I will destroy myself for a cause and once I am gone you will realise you were wrong and I was right...then you will miss my love forever ...Or I will take over your entire burden because I love you.,..
- that's the emphasis on 'samarpan'.

So in the end it will be conflict between duty and love...and love will be the sacrifice.

However each will be:
- acutely aware of how much the other person has personally sacrificed
- admire the other persons sacrifice, knowing they themselves could never have done it.
- love each other all the more for it.

And Rinse, Wash & Repeat...
Each act / sacrifice will be taken voluntarily and will only increase their love & respect for each other...making it 'atoot'.

p.s. Edit: Too much use of male, female, animal words..but couldnt think of anything esle to express the quality I want to describe. Hope its allowed.

Originally posted by: smrth

^^^

^^^

Happy,

Again, no complaint over his 'solace' or her 'restoration'. ( telling this since first post.)

No complain over his logics, take and explanations to all; to the ones those matters ( K and Guniyal) and one that does not ( Gooman).

But about 'what more can he do?' Well, why not acknowledge her point even in passing? Yes, his logic covers this somewhat, but not entirely, if we only remember what that was all about in the first place.

But what more can Cvs do? Well, for a change, when you are incorporating some 'profound' explanations from one lead then show them reaching it to the intended recipient, rather than gleaning principled profoundness from him only, while keeping the 'other side' ( not so profound pragmatism) swindled in swiping hand of a nobody.😕

But I think, "letter" story is not over yet, rt. I think I need to be patient as a viewer? 😒

Originally posted by: arshicritic

Vaishali I feel that adhikaar and zimmedari will in some way be what

Will make saras walk away from kumud. The way they talk things out

It wpnt be an MU it seems to be Saras walking away. So may be

Zimmedari and adhikar will be instrumental yhere.
What say smrth and hgg?

Originally posted by: arshicritic

Hey, that's not crap, anything related to the show and relevant to better understanding and appreciation is always welcome for all of us!

The daily shows face so many challenges and the production team must go through so much just to table the episode, and we trash them in an instant, dismissing their hard work.

We see the actors, appreciate them but spare no thought for the back end team who make the actors deliver. They must go through a lot, for they get all the brickbats but no glory from us viewers.

So thanks focusing on that!

And as my appreciation, here's the translation of my today's poem for you ( how come no one liked

that? That was an original Arshi! )

What is love?

Is love quickening of heartbeats?

Yearning to be with your beloved?

Is it in the pain of fighting

And the joy of making up soon after?

Or is love in stolen smiles and shared dreams

Are these what define love?

Or does true love hope for more?

Love is nurtured when your lover is respected

Love will grow, when the beloved is protected

To uphold the dignity of love at all costs

Is what true love really wants!

Njoy!

Originally posted by: arshicritic

@hotdogg - kya boloon, superb analysis again. Another page 1 post . Please do put it up separately.

hotdogg, I feel that when you post such in depth analysis on day end on CB, it will go unread.

CB being a daily post has a limited validity so as to say..

So thats why I feel to post it here at this time is unfair to the post, and to so many who will miss reading it as they will not come to this day's CB anymore as its almost time for the next.

so please dear, separate post, and pm to all of us!

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Originally posted by: happychappy

As a group of SC-watchers I must say we are pretty resilient 😊 We have taken a few blows on our chins (I am not referring to "us raat hamaare beech jo bhi hua" as Saras puts it, but the tear-filled drama-soaked TRP-focussed??? aftermath and coincidental floundering)... However all of us are keen to put it behind us and make quick repairs to our bubbles and go back to happy-land... Just like apna Saras was pleasantly shocked by Kumud's reconciliatory advances, but quickly and happily welcomed her back in his arms... hmmm looks like true love to me..😆 Him and Kumud, as well as us and the show!

Btw, I have tried to listen to the new song that they used twice in last night's episode... mann ki dor... cant catch the exact words or their possible significance?? Anybody to help? Hope there is no Meera/ Radha significance attached to this though that's probably being too hopeful 😉

Originally posted by: -sweetgal19-

Nice post dear! I always enjoy reading your takes on the episodes ! 😳