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Posted: 12 years ago
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@ Arshi- They have brought in those terms from the very beginning.. Remember Ilaben telling Saras, '' patni tau sabko milti hai, lekin apna sab kuch jhonk dene wali naseeb se milti hai'' and now Gun and Kumud reiterating the same, only using the a different word.. ''samarpan'' implies total devotion, to completely offer one self.. the parallel you drew with Meera and Krishna is perfect.. that is what you would call samarpan.. where you have a single motto in life, to live and die in the service of the person you worship/love.. How she is able to stay true to her words and herself after marriage, which I am sure is going to happen, will be the real test.. I was just wondering, why samarpan is associated only with Kumud.. whereas,with Saras, the words associated are ''zimmedari'' , ''adhikaar''.. Is it because samarpan/sacrifice is synonymous with women and adhikar/ zimmedari with men? or does it have any relevance with the context of the future storyline? Maybe Samarth or hgg can throw some light on that..
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Posted: 12 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: vaishali-AR

@ Arshi- They have brought in those terms from the very beginning.. Remember Ilaben telling Saras, '' patni tau sabko milti hai, lekin apna sab kuch jhonk dene wali naseeb se milti hai'' and now Gun and Kumud reiterating the same, only using the a different word.. ''samarpan'' implies total devotion, to completely offer one self.. the parallel you drew with Meera and Krishna is perfect.. that is what you would call samarpan.. where you have a single motto in life, to live and die in the service of the person you worship/love.. How she is able to stay true to her words and herself after marriage, which I am sure is going to happen, will be the real test.. I was just wondering, why samarpan is associated only with Kumud.. whereas,with Saras, the words associated are ''zimmedari'' , ''adhikaar''.. Maybe Samarth or hgg can throw some light on that..



Vaishali I feel that adhikaar and zimmedari will in some way be what

Will make saras walk away from kumud. The way they talk things out

It wpnt be an MU it seems to be Saras walking away. So may be

Zimmedari and adhikar will be instrumental yhere.
What say smrth and hgg?
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Posted: 12 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: arshicritic



Vaishali I feel that adhikaar and zimmedari will in some way be what

Will make saras walk away from kumud. The way they talk things out

It wpnt be an MU it seems to be Saras walking away. So may be

Zimmedari and adhikar will be instrumental yhere.
What say smrth and hgg?


Saras will walk away..i know.. You mean zimmedari towards his father/family? I think the impulsive nature that prompted him to write the letter, and react out of jealousy is gonna play its part.. that time he had a chance to undo his mistake, this time it might be too late before he realizes..I have a feeling that the new character Danny , will be used by Guman to create a rift..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: vaishali-AR



Saras will walk away..i know.. the impulsive nature that prompted him to write the letter, and react out of jealousy is gonna play its part.. that time he had a chance to undo his mistake, this time it might be too late before he realizes..I have a feeling that the new character Danny , will be used by Guman to create a rift..



Hmm now that youve reminded me didnt guman say something

About danny and saras and zimmedari? And how it will pull saras away? It was a few epis ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshicritic



Hmm now that youve reminded me didnt guman say something

About danny and saras and zimmedari? And how it will pull saras away? It was a few epis ago


Well earlier it was Saras going to meet Danny.. but now spoilers are saying Danny is gonna land in Ratnanagri soon.. everyone coming from Dubai can not support Saras.. lol Guman needs a strong support in someone..Danny might just be the one she can trust with her evil plans without the fear of getting exposed infront of LN ..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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As a group of SC-watchers I must say we are pretty resilient 😊 We have taken a few blows on our chins (I am not referring to "us raat hamaare beech jo bhi hua" as Saras puts it, but the tear-filled drama-soaked TRP-focussed??? aftermath and coincidental floundering)... However all of us are keen to put it behind us and make quick repairs to our bubbles and go back to happy-land... Just like apna Saras was pleasantly shocked by Kumud's reconciliatory advances, but quickly and happily welcomed her back in his arms... hmmm looks like true love to me..😆 Him and Kumud, as well as us and the show!


Btw, I have tried to listen to the new song that they used twice in last night's episode... mann ki dor... cant catch the exact words or their possible significance?? Anybody to help? Hope there is no Meera/ Radha significance attached to this though that's probably being too hopeful 😉

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Vaishali and Arshi,,
I don't question validity of Saras' stand. Not a trace doubt on his sincerity and commitment, as well, spontaneity. A fuss is on a somewhat vain disregard of her side. Ok he pacifies her agitation. And perhaps it's his way to requite her 'practical' concerns with presenting more important aspect -'their wish' as against 'social obligation'. In the end, he fulfils his duty to pacify her nerves (as expected of him) gallantly. Amply warning Gumaan on the matter ( unlike that 'gold digger' taunt)...A bother is his singular stress on his principled stand ( doggedness!😆)...Why would he not see the source of her pain? He says, " do you know how hurt was I?' (and validly so), but why no acknowledgement of 'her pain'?...well Vaishali and arshi, there is some annoying reflection here, I did not want to put initially, but anyways...to alwaysr see our views prevail, a habit of winning arguments with sound logic, is a natural trait...But sometimes when we see other side gladly giving up some of valid part of her stand, accepting total viewpoint, is not very comfortable reflection on hindsight...😕...a secret guilt of assertiveness?!😲 Don't know.😕
I am not coherent perhaps, but...😕
I feel he is going to do something more for her. What, I don't know.😃
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: smrth

Vaishali and Arshi,,
I don't question validity of Saras' stand. Not a trace doubt on his sincerity and commitment, as well, spontaneity. A fuss is on a somewhat vain disregard of her side. Ok he pacifies her agitation. And perhaps it's his way to requite her 'practical' concerns with presenting more important aspect -'their wish' as against 'social obligation'. In the end, he fulfils his duty to pacify her nerves (as expected of him) gallantly. Amply warning Gumaan on the matter ( unlike that 'gold digger' taunt)...A bother is his singular stress on his principled stand ( doggedness!😆)...Why would he not see the source of her pain? He says, " do you know how hurt was I?' (and validly so), but why no acknowledgement of 'her pain'?...well Vaishali and arshi, there is some annoying reflection here, I did not want to put initially, but anyways...to alwaysr see our views prevail, a habit of winning arguments with sound logic, is a natural trait...But sometimes when we see other side gladly giving up some of valid part of her stand, accepting total viewpoint, is not very comfortable reflection on hindsight...😕...a secret guilt of assertiveness?!😲 Don't know.😕
I am not coherent perhaps, but...😕
I feel he is going to do something more for her. What, I don't know.😃


Smrth-ji, I'm not sure why this presents a problem for you, of all people?

Saras, typically, comforted Kumud by offering a practical or useful solace/solution to what he perceives as her problem, and standing up to Gumaan is one useful thing he has never done before. The complex emotional background to "her" side of the pain is likely to be out of his depth, in any case...(sorry😃) And he cleverly pointed out her own pyaar-viswaas logic was contradicted by her earlier OTT behaviour. Also he never once mentioned his pain until he saw that she was well over hers! What more can a man do??😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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^^^
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Happy,
Again, no complaint over his 'solace' or her 'restoration'. ( telling this since first post.)
No complain over his logics, take and explanations to all; to the ones those matters ( K and Guniyal) and one that does not ( Gooman).
But about 'what more can he do?' Well, why not acknowledge her point even in passing? Yes, his logic covers this somewhat, but not entirely, if we only remember what that was all about in the first place.
But what more can Cvs do? Well, for a change, when you are incorporating some 'profound' explanations from one lead then show them reaching it to the intended recipient, rather than gleaning principled profoundness from him only, while keeping the 'other side' ( not so profound pragmatism) swindled in swiping hand of a nobody.😕
But I think, "letter" story is not over yet, rt. I think I need to be patient as a viewer? 😒

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: happychappy



Smrth-ji, I'm not sure why this presents a problem for you, of all people?

Saras, typically, comforted Kumud by offering a practical or useful solace/solution to what he perceives as her problem, and standing up to Gumaan is one useful thing he has never done before. The complex emotional background to "her" side of the pain is likely to be out of his depth, in any case...(sorry😃) And he cleverly pointed out her own pyaar-viswaas logic was contradicted by her earlier OTT behaviour. Also he never once mentioned his pain until he saw that she was well over hers! What more can a man do??😆



Very interesting discussion.am waiting for response from smrth

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